Thursday, February 4, 2016

U16G - U16 Girls Youth Soccer

This page is focused on Under 16 girls youth soccer in Region 1.

Teams face increased competition for the top players, (who are increasingly attending college showcases).

More teams consolidate and the best teams--academy soccer, club soccer and high school teams--battle to attract and retain the right player mix.

Stay tuned. This is bound to be good.

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Anonymous said...

12:09, To the points posted about keepers, while showcases may offer some game time activity most college coaches want to see specifics for keepers. Based on the fact that they may only face a few shots in a game the best opportunity is to attend the college ID camps. A coach can scout a keeper at a showcase but will never see a sufficient example if her defense does not let anything through. THey might be able to gauge her commmunication if that is what leads to fewer chances, but if she saves 2 out of two pedestrian shots that is not enough to go on. Unless they are a PK save and an upper '90 stop.

For keepers it is more difficult to show at a showcase then a field player in general.

Anonymous said...

I can't speak for others, but I'm not talking about how other kids played. I'm talking about how MY kid played or had to adjust her play. And, despite the adversity, she played pretty well. She never put her head down. She didn't blow up at her teammates, but continued to TRY to engage players that refused to engage. She doesn't pick the line ups.
She still did her job. She is a gamer. She gets it. She is the one that explained to me that kids didn't want the ball and were ducking. She knows her position, quite well. Not the first time she encountered this, I guess.
Some kids rise up to the challenge and some don't.

Anonymous said...

@10:45AM

The fact is that PDA Showcase decided to strike a deal with NPL and non-NPL teams for automatic acceptance if they attended the Florida NPL Showcase over the Christmas holiday break. Who knows why or how some non-NPL teams were accepted to an NPL Showcase in the first place.

This is why there are so many sub-par teams (NPL and non-NPL) accepted over teams like Syracuse DA, Stallions, Patriot FC, etc.

The drop off has seriously lowered the overall level of the Showcase and with no advertisement that PDA Showcase had this type of acceptance deal in place when applying, I'm sure many teams are scrambling to find something competitive.

Maybe the PDA Showcase is moving towards a blatant two-tiered type of Showcase?

Anonymous said...

Take the teams that didn't get into PDA to Delco Cups.

Anonymous said...

If you want some points sure, go to Delco. But if your looking for Coaches no waste your money.

Anonymous said...

12:48

If my daughters typical back line is playing my daughter(gk) is very involved. She has better foots kills then most field players and our defense rarely just kicks it out. They use her and her vision. Most counter attacks start with her. Even if your not making saves you can show your knowledge,vision, leader ship , foots kills and ability to make a precision pass. Throw in defenders who are not comfortable using keeper and just kick it out my daughter doesent show well. For those who wasted the money at Jcup on keeper showcase what did you think. I watched it for 20min uses and saw 0 coaches. We're they leading it? Did they know about it?

Anonymous said...

PDA put out alot signals but many clubs are too proud to notice. This is a business arrangement that any real organization should be able to decipher. Clubs that are ones that will benefit the showcase by bringing additional college coaches or help support the NPL showcase are what they wanted. Clubs looking for a free ride didn't get the nod.

Anonymous said...

Interesting re Delco Cups. Maybe reach out to tourney director and get scoop. I heard that some coaches are trying to capitalize on PDA close-outs and send an asst. to Delco as well. My team is in PDA. Just seems like a good place for teams like Syracuse DA, Stallions, Patriots, etc. to go. But, agree, if coaches aren't going, why do it. Points are meaningless in the real soccer world.

Anonymous said...

@2:07, I hear ya. There is a huge difference. But that is why some coaches go to League games, too. On to the next one.

Anonymous said...

2:07

We did not attend Jeff Cup so I do not know what the Goalie sessions looked like. I am referring the specific College ID camps. Some say that they are money makers for the school but the ID camp can be the tipping point for keepers. The coaches have a controlled environment to see how a keeper performs in all aspects of training.

Anonymous said...

@3:11. Thanks. It's just finding the time and funds to do all of this. Plus, they are students, too. And, we encourage community service and service to others. I am about making sure my kid is a good person, first. And, realizing how lucky she is to have such wonderful opportunities.

Anonymous said...

Late to the thread, but there are/was/is no signals at all that the PDA Showcase put out in any arena of communication talking about this so called "business arrangement".

If there is, please direct the readers to those communications so that this community can get on the same page and "decipher" these signals.

Jeff Cup was transparent about their relationship with the NPL and posted it on their website from day one.

Sorry to burst the NPL bubble, but outside of Quickstrike and East Meadow Hotspurs, the other accepted NPL teams are not bringing additional college coaches to the PDA Showcase. It's not a judgement, but rather a fact because these other NPL teams do not have the players at the u16 level to motivate additional college coaches to attend & watch a majority of Division 3 talent trying to be passed off as Division 1 or 2 since most of them are also the little sister teams within the ECNL clubs.

Anonymous said...

Ouch!

Anonymous said...

Some clubs read between the lines better than others. Seems logical that the host of NPL Showcase "PDA" in Florida would look favorable on supporting clubs for other showcases. Not surprised in the least.

Anonymous said...

3;32 Please look at the attendees for NPL Showcase, Aztec, Storm, Nefc,Quickstrike,Riverhounds,Smithtown,Manhattan,along with others all sent clubs to that showcase in some age group. Some top non NPL programs were accepted as they did not have this option.

Anonymous said...

GK ID camps are an excellent opportunity for GK to showcase themselves. I think the best are the multischool camps for GK: more bang for your buck if there are several schools of interest attending. They have keeper trainings where there are multiple coaches in attendance to get a better idea of a gk technique. many scrimmage opportunities are also presented for the game presence, judgment factor to be evaluated. Why do you think coaches at showcases looking for a keeper are avidly watching the gk warm ups?

Anonymous said...

For posters 3:32, 5:19 and 5:41 -

Don't kill the messenger - this "acceptance deal" for NPL teams and the PDA Showcase is already out there in the club, college setting and now on the blogs obviously.

From the college setting, PDA as a club is not going to be hurt by this deal, only the Showcase will - hopefully people realize these are two separate entities.

Coaches will no longer have the luxury of getting the most out of their recruiting budget with a concentrated showcase with talented ECNL and non-ECNL teams at PDA. The growing consensus is that many college coaches will still go to the PDA Showcase, but not in the same capacity as years past. Many D1 programs will send one staff member vs. two or three, out of Region schools will skip it all together and the increase will be seen among D2 and D3 because it caters more to their competitive level with the influx of these NPL and non-NPL teams.

Like I said, don't kill the messenger, but this is a big discussion among the college community right now.

Anonymous said...

College coaches are there for specific players and games. No different than Jeff Cup or CASL. Top flights at Jeff Cup and Casl had 70-100 coaches for top flights and this number dropped by each flight lower. I suspect this will be the same at PDA, they are there for ECNL games and top secondary flights as this is the primary target player profile. Smaller schools with definitely be fewer but still be present. Most in the soccer world do understand that every ECNL or other high level team will not have all D1 players but most have players who will continue in college at some level. If you team playing target is not primarily D1 or similar than PDA is not the best choice anyway. Backup plans should always be considered for this type of showcase as they have always been selective for various reasons.

Anonymous said...

If your child aspires to highest level and is not playing in the top couple of flights at Jeff cup like regional/national tournaments, its probably too late for anything but a roster spot in a power 5 anyway at this point in the game. That is unless she can switch teams to one playing at PDA- like Strikers. I am guessing they are looking for reinforcements after their performance at Jeff cup against ECNL teams resting starters for San Diego. The call of the ECNL must be greater than the call of the free programming. Not looking to good there, but they are in and will get coaches.

Anonymous said...

10:15

We are in the college visit portion of our search, more about seeing the college then settling on the Soccer aspect. The response my daughter has received from coaches regarding a coaches attendance at a Tournament/showcase is that they are there to see players who have expressed an interest in going to their school. THey do mention that if someone playing, not on their list, catches their eye that they will talk to the current coach, the numbers of coaches at higher bracketed games is by nature due to the interest of the players in the attending schools, coaches will watch you son/daughter play if they are at the event no matter what bracket they are in. It may just be a shorter sample. The trick is making sure that you communicate with your current coach the situation and the possibility that your child may be getting looks because an ill timed sub could spell disaster.

Anonymous said...

@10:26 - I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss FC Penn. Three 1 goal losses to some very good teams is no reason to claim that the sky is falling. In their game against Richmond, they lead going into the second half. Richmond certainly wasn't "resting their starters", as their two WNT members were instrumental in their comeback. That would indicate to me that they played to win, much like every other team out there.

I find it curious that on one hand people state that results don't matter in a showcase - "college coaches don't care who wins or loses, they are just watching how the players perform" and on the other hand they are claiming teams that don't win are in trouble. Same for the people that are quick to dismiss ECNL losses by claiming that they were resting commits. The ECNL teams that I was able to watch were playing all their commits.

Overall, I saw some really good soccer by a number of teams that I had not had the chance to see previously.

Anonymous said...

I saw the game and know the Richmond team. They did not play their top goal scorer, in the FC PA game. The players you mention are definitely impact players, but the three together put that team at another level. Were Strikers at full roster?

Anonymous said...

OK, so MB didn't play? I was thinking of JC and PF. They have so many good kids I can't keep them all straight. I don't know who was there for the Strikers - I'm not as familiar with that team.

Anonymous said...

Strikers did play with it's entire roster. Hopefully, they got everyone looks (sometimes they don't). Nonetheless, they are very good players, better than most.
Surely every team at PDA will be coming loaded and ready to play everyone, even the commits.
Should be a good tourney.

Anonymous said...

PDA should be a good tourney with Strikers, NEFC, Sunrise, Quickstrike, Cleveland, Cincinnati Cup, and few others in the premier flights. Hope they keep the together for good competition. Spreading them out would be a shame.

Anonymous said...

Right, MB didn't play in that game. Three headed monster those three are for sure. When they are all on the field there are not many who can beat them. But with JC call ups. Not happening with complete regularity. What do you mean that "sometimes they don't". Few coaches at their events? I am sure they got looks at casl and Disney. For sure they had some stud players who must be interesting to college scouts. There were coaches on Saturday there. How are they doing with their commitments?

Anonymous said...

Did see some the Richmond/Quickstrike match 2nd half and did see all 3 on the field. Not sure if was all game. May have gone in after going down in first half.

Anonymous said...

No disrespect, but is scoring 17 goals in 2 games vs the same team or better still 40 pct of your goals on the season. Im sure Richmond are a good team, but another level? Don't think so looking at their ECNL results. they look like a solid ECNL team to me, not much more.

Anonymous said...

FC Penn vs Richmond. I do know FC Penn used their back up goalie for the entire Richmond game. I do believe they used their full roster throughout the entire tournament as did most of the teams in the top bracket. Good quality players on the field for both sides. Hopefully all the girls made good impressions with coaches in attendance.

Anonymous said...

12:50

"Sometimes they don't" meant they don't always play everyone to get interest/looks. Had nothing to do with amount of Coaches. Had to do with kids getting playing time, even a little. Hopefully, they all did.

Anonymous said...

Looks like Delco closed out, so where clubs not going to PDA playing? Maybe just a weekend off? Columbia?

Anonymous said...

1:58. Look at the less than stellar results games. They are missing one or more of the three headed monster. Not sure they have any losses when all three are there. Hence my comment that they are a different level when all three on the field. No none are my kids.

Anonymous said...

Penn Fusion looked gutted without their committed kids. Best kid left was a play up 2019. A couple other solid kids left but they have no depth.

Anonymous said...

Agreed @ 8:03. I guess it's pretty amazing what PF has been doing with only a few really solid players, then, huh?

Anonymous said...

Makes you wonder why they decided to not play kids, then. Clearly, other kids play better around them. This happened with other teams, too. Makes no sense. Showcase the team!

Anonymous said...

Saw the comment about Delco Cups closing out. Reach out to tourney director. If there are enough talented teams, that are looking for spots, maybe they will add a bracket. It is worth a shot.

Anonymous said...

Enlighten me, what have they been doing? Tied a weak nye team tied a very good Florida team and lost to a Tennessee team. Have they been doing anything notable? Several starters out can really change the game for sure. It would be interesting to hear the response of the players who played on whether sitting the commits was ultimately a good decision for them. I put money on the kids who would have started anyway being upset that they weren't able to play their best adjusting their game to other kids on the field and others representing roster depth being happy to be on the field as much as possible. No way to make everyone happy. Seems like a reasonable choice though with San Diego on the heels of Jeff cup for them.

Anonymous said...

It was not just the field players that were out; others were playing different positions too. I saw girls playing up top and then on defense and then in the middle. A lot of shuffling.
And, YES some kids were not able to play their best games because they had to adjust to those who were not as comfortable in those positions in a showcase.
However, no "i" in Team, right? It's over. It wasn't horrible, but it could have been way better. Pretty sure they are moving on.

Anonymous said...

Just wondering, how do the tournament directors feel when they place teams into top brackets based on their records playing as a full team and then those teams don't bring their full teams? Does this affect how they are seeded the next year if they attend? Some sports exclude that team the next time or rank them in a lower bracket.

Anonymous said...

They were able to give players time that may not have seen as much playing time and also play them in different positions. Is it optimal for those who were not able to play their best games as a result? No. But, it's about the kids getting playing time in front of coaches. And, there were a lot of coaches.

Anonymous said...

the whining in this thread is unbelievable. at some point your child has to go on the field and show what she can do in the situation she finds herself in. Is your kids better because another kid beats 4 defenders and scores? Is your kid better because the gk makes a few huge saves to preserve a lead? of course not. I cant believe what I keep reading about how you need other kids on the field in order for your kid to show what she is made of. Coaches can see all they need to see whether you are winning, losing, playing with great players around you or not. Tell your kids to go out there and give 100 pct in all situations and stop whining about who was or was not on the field.

Anonymous said...

It's not the kids whining. It's the parents. And, agree. Even the best players that are surrounding by the best players can have off days.
Some here are ripping apart other teams for some unknown reason. Some teams played their entire roster, some didn't, some came loaded, some didn't. It doesn't matter.
Jeff Cup 2016 is in the books. Time to move to the next games.

Anonymous said...

@ 1006 Well said. btw, the other team has something to do with it. They make it sound like performance is all about who is on your team:)I don't care how great your team is. if you are a defender and the other teams best player is an attacker who you have to mark, you may be in for a real tough day. Or, you may be playing with kids who play less, but against another team whose kids play even less than your s do. Who knows. Its the parent excuses that crack me up. Its like in the parents refuse to accept that sometimes the kids fail . Failing is good if you get up and try harder. It seems the modern way to go is provide excuses and a bigger safety net. Great life lesson :)

Anonymous said...

Best said by my daughter. Asked her about practice as they are getting ready for SD. Asked how the kids are doing,

she said, we are fine. We know it was a showcase and things were being changed around. We did some good things and some not so good things. Some kids were nervous. It's okay. WE get it. Right now, we have a job to do and are focusing on this weekend and the games after. THEY matter to us. We are a Team from our strongest player to the not as strong. We are there for each other. And, when's dinner? I'm starving.

Anonymous said...

10:24 Good stuff. Parents seem to keep forgetting. It's about them and their experience. Let's not make them look back at youth soccer [and it is YOUTH soccer] as being horrible because of THEIR parents. These are kids. Not saying coddle, but saying ease up.

Anonymous said...

Read some of the threads above, does a child have to wait until she has taken the SAT's to register for the Clearance Center? Or is taking the PSAT enough to get this started?

Anonymous said...

You can register for the clearing house prior to taking the SAT.

Anonymous said...

9:30 thank you for posting this! I almost posted the exact same sentiment but I ended up deleting it. 100% agree that the whining and excuses just make you all look bad.

Anonymous said...

So says Saint Soccermom.

Anonymous said...

Nope not a saint.

Just not an overly obsessed, convinced my child is the second coming of mia hamm, not being noticed by power 5 college coaches bc of the lesser skilled players around her that they are stuck playing with, bc other equally skilled players committed for a little bit of money to go to a college so they can play soccer for four more years are not playing in this very immensely important game in my child's life, but they might actually have played depending on who is posting, and bc they aren't playing my Mia2 isn't able to perform her highly acclaimed foot skills and rainbow passes bc the shlub players on the field with her were hiding from the ball and didn't want to play or know how to play the game. Woe is my life of a soccer parent. I've been angry all week about this injustice that I've just about burst an artery so I need to come and talk about it on this blog so other like minded soccer superiors can reassure me that my mia2 is still a star.

Did I cover it all?

Anonymous said...

@739

Brilliant! Great to see an interesting post for once. Please mark any future posts with a * so I can be sure to read them ;)

Anonymous said...

Love it 7:38!!!
My thoughts exactly but I couldn't pen the words...

Anonymous said...

Any thoughts on the SJEB - NJ Rush merger from the NJ crowd? I'm not sure how merging two clubs can provide better opportunity for the kids. Seems like your going to displace an entire first team. Were any of the teams that bad off?

Anonymous said...

A and B team possible.

Makes sense to try to put forth a stronger regional team at these levels.

This is a good year to do it

Anonymous said...

this may not be popular, but Consolidation is exactly what is needed. There should be a place for most kids to play, but there are just too many places that do not have the quality to sustain the level at which they currently play.

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Anonymous said...

Speaking of consolidation, there are whispers that FC Bucks ECNL (at all levels) is imploding due to Eddie Leigh not being around anymore. Keep a close eye on how those teams do in San Diego today and through the weekend.

With the age group change, Development Academy and a couple alternatives in that area fielding competitive teams there could be some major shifts in rosters around the corner.

I'm glad to see SJEB and Rush joining together - it will only benefit the kids in that area.

Anonymous said...

7:40 which team are you referring to on both subjects ?

Anonymous said...

7:40. Really 70 coaches? Hmmm all 70 stood up in unison and walked away from the field as soon as a TOP team took the field? What's sign of solidarity. It's so nice to see them band together like that?

And people wonder why some of these posts are just laughable.

Anonymous said...

7:40 is the parent everyone enjoys talking soccer with. (makes everyone around them feel more intelligent) Exaggerate Much??

Anonymous said...

It's a fact actually that coaches generally have a schedule. Often half by half of which games / players they plan to see. So it would be expected that if the game to follow isn't on their schedule they would leave to see the next game/ half on their schedule. Not laughable at all. Probably happened if the game to follow was a significantly lower flight and if interest to a different set of coaches.

Anonymous said...

We understand how it works at showcases but thank you for the lesson. What everyone is questioning is your assertion that there were 70 coaches who all chose to leave the game and not watch a certain team. Your tone just continues to imply that coaches won't watch what you dean to be lesser talented teams. How about for arguments sake we just go along with you and wish your very talented soccer player the best of luck with their full ride at a power 5 program and then you can end your Jeff cup coverage. On to the next one :)

Anonymous said...

*deem ;)

Anonymous said...

The movement of college coaches at these showcases is very fluid. I have done the brochures for several kids. Between the players, parents and movement between games it is impossible to even notice coach movement. Most coaches manage to slip in and out very discreetly and anyone who says there is a mass departure is just stirring the pot. Jeff Cup makes a point to put top flights at West Creek to avoid what was described. Interestedly enough it very difficult to notice the difference between 30 coaches and a 100, most blend into the background. If you says otherwise it is just not true.

Anonymous said...

As for merger of SJEB and Rush anyone who says it is "good" or it is what is needed is not a smart person. Why don't we have PDA and FC Bucs and Match fit combine that way when the PDA parents are told they are the "B" team and Match fit is the "C" team.But they all Pay the same but the lower teams might get to play once in a while for the "A" team.But only the "A" team gets to go to the college showcase tournaments I am sure they will say it is good for my daughter and we love it and can't wait to stay hear.
When people post things like this it really shows the soccer knowledge that they DON'T have.

Anonymous said...

As a parent involved in the SJEB Rush merger, I think it is a good thing especially at our '99 age group. Bringing the 2 clubs together allows for the development of stronger "birth year" teams. Instead of being stuck with only a few players to choose from, this should enable the club to establish a couple teams of different levels. The combined coaching staff at least as of now appears to be solid with most being directly involved with Women's College teams. Having a couple teams at each age group will also encourage the players on the top team to continue to play hard and develop or risk being dropped down to another team, just as a player from the lower or "B" team can advance to the top team if their play dictates. At least as of now that is what it looks like. I know i have read in the past about other clubs like PDA and Matchfit where this system is supposed to work that way but really does not. Only time will tell.

Anonymous said...

10:43 The PDA , Bucks and Matchfit Second teams do attend the showcases, just play in lower brackets. Showcases like all tounaments have flights by ability. If you check the CASL, Jeff Cup and similar showcases you will see these teams are there. Instead of ECNL they may go to the NPL showcases, a club can only do so much. The team ability determines what level it plays at a showcase. Check Jeff Cup and you will see just as many NPL teams in the top flight as ECNL. The results are telling as several non ecnl teams produced excellent results.o did not see Rush or SJEB anywhere near the top flights so the merger may offer better combined teams. Wanna play top flights? Earn it.

Anonymous said...

You missed the point......If you took some kids from those teams (PDA ,FC Bucks and Matchfit) combined them into one club and reorganized the talent and told some of them.they were the new "B" and "C" team most of them would be upset and leave.

Anonymous said...

And you would have a very competitive "A" team.(which is the stated goal)

Anonymous said...

So for the PA folks, it looks like the tryout times as well as coach lists are out for the ECNL teams (Penn Fusion, FC Bucks, Continental). Based on the age change and reshuffle of coaches any thoughts on numbers and movement? Each club needs at least 40 girls to have ECNL and NPL representation, plus I would think that strength of teams would be a factor going into the DA choices next year.

User said...

U.S. U-16 Girls National Team training camp kicking off Wednesday

VERY FEW from Region1

http://www.soccerwire.com/news/nt/international-women/u-s-u-16-girls-national-team-training-camp-kicking-off-wednesday/

Anonymous said...

10:45am

Not usually a strong region, to get 2-3 is probably a big deal. Mid Atlantic is not a hotbed for WNT pool. Most of the names on the list are also committed to D1 programs.

Anonymous said...

Hey 3/31 at 7:28 am, nice post. I think the person you are referencing is on my child's team and tearing it apart because the mia2 refuses to be unselfish. Very good players are looking to possibly leave. Shame when one family does this to a team, but the coach is letting it happen.

Anonymous said...

@1045. Strange to release a roster this close to the start date. And with kids who are already on the U17 WC team?

Anonymous said...

Kennedy Wesley is injured and played in the CONCACAF qualifying for U17s. Roster looks way off to me. If you click on the U17 link, that camp starts 4/16, but this article says they will run concurrent ??

U-17 Women’s Championship and qualifying for the 2016 FIFA U-17 Women’s World Cup, the U.S. U-17 WNT will head to the U.S. Soccer National Training Center in Carson, Calif., for a training camp running from April 16-23.

U.S. head coach B.J. Snow has named a 26-player roster, including 18 players who participated in the CONCACAF Championship in Grenada in March. Absent from the qualifying team are defender Kennedy Wesley, who is still carrying a knee injury suffered in that tournament


I think SOCCERWIRE has something crossed.

Anonymous said...

FC Bucks ECNL still has solid coaches. I don't see them closing shop anytime soon. They could very well acquire some very good players/game changers from other teams in PA/NJ.

Anonymous said...

2:54 PM

Are they in the running for the DA spot? Also at this age it is about College connections. Most girls will stay local unless they are in the WNT pool as well. They are also the only club who has not had any "Birth Year ID clinics"

Anonymous said...

10:07 Do you really think it will make a huge difference next year? The age changes will shuffle most teams anyway. Neither club it that strong at this age that it makes a big difference. Most clubs typically have A and B teams, spots a never secure from year to year, next year is no different. At this age neither Rush or EJEB is competing at the major showcase, maybe it's time to step out and play some tournaments that don't include EDP, MSSL or MAPS in the title.

Anonymous said...

3:10. Birth Year ID Clinics are nothing anyway. Try outs matter. Many ECNL kids could not go to other ID clinics of other teams. So, just because a kid appeared at an ID Clinic, doesn't mean they'll be back or they would go elsewhere, too. Bucks has very good college connections.

Anonymous said...

DA spots will limit kids that are multiple sport athletes. These kids are not a dying breed and multi-sports are excellent cross training tools. So, some clubs will still have top level kids that aren't playing DA. US Soccer may only look at DA kids, but top programs will still look where ever there are great athletes. You can teach a kid to play with a ball and fine tune technical, strength, smarts and speed, but you can't make them tall, strong, smart or fast if not already there.

Anonymous said...

344 ..that's not true. If it was where are all the US produced world class international players? The reason the US only produced GKs is because that is the only position in which what you just said "may" work. I say may , because as the tactical requirements have risen on the gk to play as more of a sweeper, the US keepers have done a lot worse. Athlete - stop ball going in was simple enough, but now, not so much. The multi sport thing is fine, but it also misses the point. most real development has already happened by the time you get to DA.

Anonymous said...

Not specifically calling out one position, just generalizing and was in response to 3:10 above, mostly. But, yes, welcome to track & field; swimming; etc. These athletes can do other sports quite easily a lot of times.

And, yes, GK training is very technical. But, you can get very this without DA. Many clubs have GK training that isn't DA specific (and some is). Again, it has to do with the athlete. You can't make a world class athlete in any position or sport without him/her having the biology already in place. It is all fine tuning.

And, the better GK's are one of the best athletes on the field because they are so explosive, have very good technical training, good reads down the field, good reactions (another thing that can't be inserted into an athlete without already having "it"), good instruction, and are fearless. You can't make a kid jump higher unless they have hops already. You can't make a kid taller that isn't already going to be tall. And, the DA isn't doing this, either.

Also, as far as your US keepers downgrade, pretty sure Hope Solo would disagree. Please remember, that the athlete bringing in the ball is much faster and more technical than before too. Her reaction skills, hops and ability to direct/instruct is what sets her apart.

I am saying that non-DA clubs will still do well with recruiting having multi-sport athletes.

Anonymous said...

I do not see the reasoning behind establishing a DA for the girls side. If you look at the men's side most of the influx of NT players are coming from international teams. the U17 player on the boys side who played in a WC qualifying match is of Croatian lineage and got his 10 minutes so that he is only eligible to play for the US now. The u17 girl who played in the Olympic Qualifying is a home grown player. The US boys DA is not producing NT talent based on Klinsman's tact to recruit international players with dual passports.

The age change this year is a curious one, the '99 birth year will be the most negatively impacted limiting their exposure to the true reason for playing high level soccer - College. The hopeful thought was that they would grandfather the U15 and up teams for ECNL/NPL and begin the transition with U14. It will not be the case, all teams will comply with the new birth year mandate.

Anonymous said...

I agree on your point about 99's being in precarious position next year. Can't see how any major showcase will be properly set up for them. Don't give a damn about the team results but most teams will be completely new lineups. College coaches can only cover so many games, how can we expect them to see the talent when it is completely been rearranged?

Anonymous said...

Worse than that they have to break into teams that are already set and formed the existing u17 99/98 team. Possibly minus one or two graduating 98 seniors born after August 1. So there will be one or two "openings" for as many as twelve or even possibly more August-dec 99s. Tough to make the team much less get good Playing time. Will most of these kids bounce down to the 99/98 B team in whatever form- NPL etc? Will most look for another club? the 00s are fine but the 99s horrible

Anonymous said...

Looks like U16 player from Quickstrike NY committed to Notre Dame. Posted on the NY blogs.

Anonymous said...

All the good 99s are committed to Rutgers. Oh wait, that is just the PDA c team players.

Anonymous said...

@6:31 Hahahahahaha. Agreed.

Anonymous said...

My daughter is a November '99. If she doesn't come out of this summer with an offer from one of her top 10 choices she's shafted as far as moving on to a '98 squad that is already beyond it's curb appeal. So the question is, this spring do you stay with your current team on State Cup game day or go to the ID Clinic you really want to go to?

Anonymous said...

9:06 AM

Has the Collge coach expressed an interest in recruiting your daughter? If it is a college ID clinic I reccomend going if they are only having one. The other option is to have your daughter send an email to the coach letting them know of the conflict indicating her interest in the program and providing a schedule of future events (possible upcoming cup games?)

The other thing to take into consideration is whether the current team factors high in State cups. Coaches not only look at field play but decision making and loyalty.

Anonymous said...

I think what you will see is that the top (competitive) USYS teams will stay largely unchanged, and will just jump to U18. Look at the National League berths for 2016-2017 (link). All the U16 teams slot into U18. If the teams change radically and don't maintain roster continuity, then they will lose their spots. The teams in our area are staying together and will be largely the same. There is no concerted efforts to get the 2000's to a U17 team - they will just play up on their existing team. A large reason for this is the player pool that the club(s) have. There will be the usual attrition of kids who decide not to play, or maybe a pickup or two of someone looking for greener pastures. Other than that, I expect the rosters to be largely the same. (again, this is for the teams in our area)

The ECNL and NPL teams that have a large pool of players to choose from may see heavy reorganization. Unlike the USYS teams, they have no incentive to maintain roster continuity, although some may decide to stay together to retain team chemistry. A lot depends on the area and number of players they have to pull from.

Anonymous said...

There may be an uptick in non-ECNL players making the 2000 and younger ECNL rosters due to the attrition up. If you are a 12-20 ECNL player on a team now at birth year pure you may make a move to the starting line up, NPL players that are 1-11 could make the ECNL roster at age pure. And for that matter nonECNL/NPL players may move to an ECNL team due to pure numbers.

Anonymous said...

PDA, Penn Fusion, East Meadow 00 teams will be filled from within by combining the u15 and u16 00s. Most of the better players on those u16 teams are 00s already. Only possibility is if the HBC (u15)or Penn Strikers USYSA national league teams implode and a few top players become available. Tons of room for 00 at CFC. NPL unlikely at most teams. Might see some movement of uncommitted 00s trying to break into u17 ECNL. Tryouts in a month or so will tell. What happens to Quickstrike? What's their 00/99 balance? They are doing really well, but can't believe they wont be impacted by the age changes. Same with Strikers guessing they play USYSA u18 national league next year.

Anonymous said...

Looks like Strikers had a hiccup at Jeff Cup. It will be interesting to see what they do. I am familiar with their model but not with the team, based on the rostering process the coach/manager may need to commit to the current roster and play at U18 until they all commit/cycle out.

CFC may comine all '00 from NPL and U15 older half to get an ECNL team, NPL team will be tough to field.

Anonymous said...

Pa strikers has already switched to 00. They will be u17 this fall. The 99s are gone already thus the poor results.

Anonymous said...

That's really a wild one. The strikers are mostly 99s. They are fine. Will play u18 next year. Crazy stuff.

Anonymous said...

Where do people on this Blog get their info? So much speculation without any facts. Maybe you are a parent and know something additional. I am not positive but I am almost certain the Strikers still have 99 and 00 players. As for results, Maybe they just played all of their kids, as did most teams. I believe it was a showcase event for the entire team and from what I saw, they were paired against some pretty good ECNL Teams. I don't think a lot can be determined by looking at Jeff Cup based on any teams results alone. Most of the teams probably adjusted their lineups one way or another.

Anonymous said...

Why are people still talking about the Jeff Cup? What about ECNL's decision to include boys? What is this going to do to Nat'l League, ODP, for guys and gals? Crazy time for sure.

Anonymous said...

Wow, 5 more ECNL clubs added. This exclusive level is getting mighty crowded. I think back to the 70's when the term millionaire meant something. Think you get the picture.

Anonymous said...

I was surprised it took this long for an ECNL to land in WNY.

Anonymous said...

They are scooping up all the better clubs. NEFC stood out as an outlier. Now they are in. Not much left in NPL and usysa. Couple good teams here and there. Not much competition.

Anonymous said...

Do you think the League is admitting more in preparation of some leaving for DA? Or will some DA's still have ECNL, NPL teams as well? Very interesting this soccer stuff.

Anonymous said...

There are plenty of clubs with decent trainers. Parents will flock to clubs with DA just like parents flocking to ECNL clubs. Maybe not with the highschoolers but the middle schoolers and younger.

Anonymous said...

Lets discuss, out the 5 clubs accepted, how many have are pro connected.1,2,3,4 or all 5? Why?

Anonymous said...

3 I think
They are a shoo in for da. I think the ecnl operating agreement requires clubs to put their top teams in the ecnl. That might be the problem in having both ecnl and da teams unless the operating agreement is changed. I don't know their governance and what process or voting had to occur to change it but I think it says top team ecnl and second team NPL.

Anonymous said...

The current NPL teams are a joke.

Anonymous said...

Yes because kids and parents maybe more don't want to be associated with B teams when they don't make ECNL. So they go to FC Europa or Penn Legacy or...
NPL atre mostly local kids who don't want to travel far to training and have been in the club a long time.

Anonymous said...

I am seeing an interesting situation. Girls are coming out to ECNL clubs and looking to train and are sent directly to NPL teams. there are also "call-ups" where girls are getting opportunities within ECNL clubs to train up. Since the start of spring I have seen an influx of players showing up and training but not getting spots on ECNL even with some thinner rosters.

It is also interesting that very few NPL and no ECNL teams are playing state cups. I am thinking ECNL is exempt and for NPL it is a fine line if the teams are not successful.

Anonymous said...

I do not think the DA will impact U16 and above, the reason being is that gilrs on established ECNL teams will not want to make the move, if they are NT caliber they are already in the system, the only exception I see is if US soccer mandates that they move to DA in order to stay on the NT radar.

THe tougher choice will be the U13-U15 players and how clubs will address the issue. If the club is providing all levels up through ECNL will they add DA or replace the ECNL team. To me, one indication that that the current PA ECNL teams are positioning for DA status is the additional effort put on coaching changes and announcements. This is the first time in a while where the coaching rosters were adjusted and published with anticipation and fanfare.

Anonymous said...

1155 I am pretty sure they will move. Once you have experienced the NT thing, you want more and Im sure the thought process will be if I play in front of the decision makers more often, I increase my chances.

Anonymous said...

12:11 PM
I belive that the DA will work the way ODP pools work now. THe DA team will be the local pool with teams playing the other DA teams in the region with national camps/tournaments, just being on a DA team does not gaurentee a NT camp invite. Agreed, if you have ever been to an NT camp you will want to continue to play at that level. There has already been movement within ECNL teams where the powers that be in US soccer have "transferred" players from one ECNL team to another so that they would be in the best environment. The other factor will be cost. If the DA training, uniforms and games are no cost except for travel it would be an easy decision.

Anonymous said...

1232

clearly being in the DA does not mean NT. But it certainly means the greatest opportunity to showcase your talent to NT directly.

you really believe that USSF have "suggested" players move? I call BS on that. Urban myth perpetrated by those with an agenda.

I don't see cost as a factor really. People pay ridiculous $$ now for ECNL. They wont stop.

Anonymous said...

2:14 PM
Check PDA/Matchfit Rosters from this season against NT pool and local ECNL club's rosters from last year. Not Myth, Fact.

Anonymous said...

214 you think its a fact because kids moved clubs? I don't consider that evidence at all. BTW, NT pool? What is that? Please point me to a location where I can see it.

Anonymous said...

7:36 AM

Link to NT Pool
http://www.ussoccer.com/us-under16-girls-national-team/roster#tab-1

Oh, and fact that it was based on the US Soccer "suggestion"

Anonymous said...

Sorry, first post was actual team call-ups here is the link to U17 pool
http://www.ussoccer.com/us-under15-girls-national-team/2013-player-pool

Not really updated properly but makes the point.
US soccer is sometimes cagy in the way they post updates to their site.

Anonymous said...

820/825 you have shown me the U16 roster AND the 2013 U15 one. Neither of which is relevant. It does not make the point at all. The only point it makes to me is that there is no official pool. I also don't see any PDA or MFit players on the current u16 roster.

Anonymous said...

11:38 AM

Trying to figure out your argument. ECNL is the current highest level of play for girls, EPA is not the hotbed of getting girls to NT rosters (mostly CA, VA.TX. CO). US Soccer wants a girls DA to "Discover and develop" top talent fot the NT program. If we look in comparison the success of the current girls development to Boys development we can see that ECNL (Mallory Pugh as an example) is working fine as it is. Someone got upset and decided to start their own thing (again) and now we have the proposed "Next Top Tier" of girls soccer, a selfish self absorbed DA model that currently does not work on the boys side. (incedentially the Girls DA will be run by the same diplomats).

I honestly think that FIFA has approached the US womens team directors and asked them to find a way to dilute the pool so that other FIFA countries have an opportunity to compete and in turn they will help bolster the US mens program.

As I said trying to find actual updated rosters is difficult, her is the latest US soccer link based on the 2015 ODP.
http://www.region1.com/Content/directors/upimg/dir8697/godp%20rosters/u15%20boca%20roster-2015.pdf

Anonymous said...

http://www.region1.com/Content/directors/upimg/dir8697/godp%20rosters/u15%20camp%20pool%202015%20v3.pdf

This is the full 2000 Region 1 pool roster. Some of these kids played their age group or playing/played with older ages groups at Boca and international tourneys. Not sure how we connect the dots.

Anonymous said...

again, that is ODP. Irrelevant. There is no pool at U16 that is public.You cant. Let me tell you what the poll is. It invented by parents whose kids are not in the current camp. Im sure there is a list of players, but the USSF certainly do not tell you and the def do not publish @ U16. They would be foolish to do so.

if your kid is in the current NT camp, congrats. If she has been and is not in the current one, still congrats and im sure she can be invited down the line. if she has never been, its not a great process, but I hope she gets a shot at being seen and evaluated fairly.

Anonymous said...

Got it. Much like life, right place, right time and plenty of luck; just keep working hard. Thank you.

Anonymous said...

So with tryouts coming up what is the concensus, is your player attending current club only tryouts or shopping around at different clubs. some seem to think that the age change may open spots at higher level clubs. As for my player we are putting all eggs in one baket.

Anonymous said...

I definitely think the birth year opens up opportunity for current u16 00s but the change will close options for the 99 who have to make already established team of kids older and more experienced than they at 99/98. If my child was one of the best players in a high level travel type situation I would definitely consider having her throw her hat in the 00 ECNL ring. Last chance for a good deal.

Anonymous said...

Is anyone worried that the top 00s from their team will defect for one last chance at ECNL recruiting opportunities? If that happens will your team survive?

Anonymous said...

8:31

In the EPA area there are few teams below ECNL/EDP/NPL that compete at the U16/U17 level. Natural attrition may hurt more then girls looking to upgrade. With the ECNL tryout dates there may be some transfers among clubs. For a girl to break in to a U17 ECNL team she will need to be a strong player. Most of the ECNL clubs have 3-4 teams to pull from (2 ECNL and 1 NPL). Some ECNL clubs were adding to their NPL rosters right after PAGs short season. THe hopes of the girls is that they are in the club and hope to be leveled at ECNL based on the age change. Coaches are also fickle and know who is on the radar and are already talking to players who are interested in ECNL spots. Showing up without prior interest will be a long shot.

Anonymous said...

http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2016/04/13/17/19/160413-u16gnt-heads-to-italy-for-tournament-of-gradisca

Anonymous said...

12:10 there are plenty of strong players in non ecnl clubs that could potentially make the teams even without the age shift. I don't believe any ecnl coach would not take on a player that was stronger than any players on their npl team. If you think there is complete club loyalty I think you're mistaken.

That being said. Most strong non ecnl players aren't necessarily looking to get into the ecnl. If they had wanted to they would've done so already and probably choose not to do so for a variety of reasons.

Anonymous said...

Looks like Quickstrike in NY just committed another player from their U16. Defender heading to UConn along with forward to Notre Dame. Still plenty of top players from non- ecnl programs getting the same exposure. No ODP, no National camps, just high quality players.

Anonymous said...

Re:ODP roster / connecting the dots - the top players in that list were invited to Boca to train (about 1/2 of that list). all of those listed players are invited to train/play at an international location. Many locations changed this year due to security concerns abroad.

Anonymous said...

11:21 Agreed. Plenty of good players on that list. Region 1 does a great job.

Anonymous said...

any representative team that is pay for play is a joke.

Anonymous said...

Can any of the FC Copa parents out there Comment of the cost of tuition for the club?

Anonymous said...

If your child is like the 2018 Quickstrike players that have just committed they are aware of their options now. I do believe that there are some kids/families who expected to have several choices on the table at this time and for whom that has not become the reality. I am not saying that there are not ECNL players in the same boat please keep in mind. However, those non ECNL kids might be wondering if their chance of success would be enhanced if they switched now for a perceived last chance at the ring.

Having said that, I do not believe that ECNL teams will switch out the bottom 5-8 of the roster for an outside kid to come off the bench. I do however, think they would snatch up a player in a heartbeat that they see as "special" and would happily take any kid they see as a starter from the outside.

Anonymous said...

11:54 I don't think ECNL is the solution for the kids. More important is the coach or club being an advocate for the player. If your coach is not willing to work to get the college opportunities it is that much more difficult. So switching clubs will only help if the coach can assist. This is the issue with many smaller clubs and ill equipped coaches. Check his or track record of players playing in college. As a sophomore the door my be closing for the top college programs but is still wide open for the hundreds of others colleges and universities. Plenty of players do not commit until junior and senior years.

Anonymous said...

What does this mean ?

If your coach is not willing to work to get the college opportunities it is that much more difficult

with soccer being such a pay to play and therefore middle class sport, we seem to develop and indulge this attitude. Its up to the player and the parents to work hard to put themselves in a position to get eh best chance to get where they want to go. A coach should not market a poor player. By poor I mean a poor fit to the school in question. I don't know a single coach who will not look at a player who is a good fit. it is on the parents to be realistic an honest and put the game in perspective with regard to college plans.

I guess that is my first mistake. Most parents are not realistic.

Anonymous said...

Agree with your point about parents but having the right coach will certainly help a good player with aspirations. If you coach is involved in the process it helps, to think otherwise is very foolish. Communication between coach and schools is the main conduit for the younger players on the college radars.

Anonymous said...

1059am
Stay away from copa way to expensive, starts at 2200 then doubled at extras to many other options
S

Anonymous said...

5:38 I think that is a pretty common rate for premier non-ecnl clubs.

Anonymous said...

How about the disaster going on with Rush and SJE in south jersey? The building of a super club is falling apart as players are attending other clubs tryouts such as the new COPA south group. Nothing like walking your players through the front gates of your competition. Greed catch's up with all.

Anonymous said...

Prejudging something as a disaster before it even starts, that's funny. Yes, a lot of people are upset because they have to find a home for their kids, and it's tough on the U-16's because they will likely never see the benefit, but having strong clubs in the South is likely good for the up and coming kids. Does any one really believe that there is a strong club system in the South? At this age are the Barons or the Rush really very competitive clubs?

Anonymous said...

Isn't PDASouth the best club in south NJ? All their girls are verbally committed, most to Rutgers of course.

Anonymous said...

Need to thank those who posted previously re tips with respect to commitments and suggestions about what can be expected as far as money, housing, food, books, etc. Your assistance is great. Was not sure what to expect, but these have been very good tips. Keep up with the helpful posts.

Anonymous said...

8:28- I am with you. I am the one who asked the original question. It would be nice if people would share anonymously, of course, just so others had an idea of what is a reasonable expectation. I have heard things and it ranges from full ride to books. I would just like to know what would be considered a fair offer.

Anonymous said...

Anyone have an idea when PDA posts schedule for showcase for Non- Ecnl teams?

Anonymous said...

Its hard to answer your question. Example: Take a top tall and or uber fast CB(I think that's the position you said your child plays. Let's say she is on a champions league level ECNL team or alternatively on a team where she is clearly the reason that they hang in games, against top competition (ECNL or top two brackets of national level tournaments). Also premise that she has not been to national camp and doesn't participate in ODP. I think she could get 50-75% (say VaTech) in general to a top 25 school if they really need a CB and think she would play a lot and pair well with existing personnel. Same kid could demand 100% on a top level mid major (ex JMU)team or 90% (rarely do power 5s give 100% to non national or even international kids) on a lower ranked power 5 school say Syracuse or Maryland. A lesser CB playing top competition could easily get a 50% from a mid major in a lesser conference (lets say Seton hall for example) that is fully funded. Just talking athletic money by the way.

Anonymous said...

By the way I used real examples but changes the schools although I picked similar schools in similar (or the same) conferences.

Anonymous said...

Thank you. Very helpful. 8:59 am.

Anonymous said...

Do ECNL teams have tryout rules among each other? Friend's daughter wants to try out but is on another team. How does that work?

Anonymous said...

335pm
They can tryout for any team after may 1st. Although it is not always greener :)

Anonymous said...

Question, what is the proper amount of communication with the coach as a parent? As my daughter has gotten older I have pretty much been a consumer of the information sent out by the coach and team manager responding to requests for information directed at parents but letting my daughter respond to questions from the coach regarding availbality or if she will need to miss a practice due to a school or family event. But on the other hand I understand that there is a texting protocol where the coach is directly reaching out to players for information that I may want to be aware of. There is also the stigmatism that I want to avoid where I become "That" parent while at the same time feel that my teen daughter may not always have the presence of mind to respond accordingly.

Anonymous said...

What PA East teams would be an option for a '99 next year. Assuming this list could be a mix of current U16 or U17 teams depending on the direction they take going into next year.

Anonymous said...

706am

What level are you looking for. At '99 some clubs are combining the 99/98 birth years so there will be a high number of players. Most current clubs will be fielding teams at that age. The '99s are the most impacted by the birth year change.

Anonymous said...

A top level team-. hearing that some teams will "play up" while others will stay. I have to imagine that there will be moving parts based on what teams do.

Anonymous said...

Top Level Teams are subjective. If you are looking for good college exposure the ECNL teams are where to be. FC Bucks, Penn Fusion and Continental FC. PA Classics is a good team as well. Harleysville may or may not be an option for you. the best thing to do is research through EPYSA Cups to see what teams at that age made it deep into the cup run (NCS) Got Soccer offers some insight but the numbers can be skewed as not all teams play the same agressive schedule to get points (meaning some teams will enter lower level tournaments to build up their numbers) the better indicator on GS is the head to head against better teams).

Also based on what team your are with now could play a factor on how open a coach at a higher level team will be. at 17 a player should already have a reputation across the soccer landscape with interest coming to you. Has your player been asked to guest with any teams or attend training? showing up unannounced at a tryout may not put you on the radar when few spots are availbale. The team we are with has been entertaining "guests" at training since March 1.

Anonymous said...

Yes it's tough on the 99s
My daughter, sophomore now, will most likely be on a team with 50/50 juniors and seniors; seniors mostly committed to a school
It will be all on us (my daughter) to contact coaches to be seen at showcases. Not too many coaches will randomly watch a team with that many older girls except that the club name behooves it

Anonymous said...

8:34 AM

For what its worth, if your club merits looks from College coaches is your concern that with so many committed already the coach/manager will not plan to attend showcases? Another avenue is have her attend a few ID camps at the schools she is interested in this summer. If she performs well there it gives the College coach a reason to come watch her play next year.

Anonymous said...

Thanks 8:43
She has attended a couple by invite and we're sifting through others to decide where to spend the money :)

Anonymous said...

The northeast ECNL is putting together "composite" 00/99/98 teams for competition in 2016-2017. They will do 2 showcases. We don't know yet for sure, but likely there will be league play too. They will be most likely made up of largely 99 juniors. Possibly 00 juniors who are committed or are bubble u17 00 players and whom the coaches think the u17 00 team can do without and remain competitive. The teams will probably be about as competitive as the current ECNL99/00 u16 teams are now. They will be looking for solid 99s to bolster these teams. They will make up some of the 99/00 ECNL team or DA team for 2017-18 and the clubs will treat them right to keep competitive the following year or to field a strong oldest level DA team.

Another consideration would be the PA Strikers. They will keep their 99 national league spot and would be happy, I am sure, to garner a few more older players to compete at that level.

PA Classics' best 99s already went to Strikers. The 99s won't pick up much there because the DA that they will likely be awarded will be behind the 99s.

Anonymous said...

9:25 AM

I would challenge your statment regarding the combining of 3 age groups for an ECNL team. Looks like 99/98 will make up the top age for ECNL, I have not heard or seen from any ECNL club that they will include 00 birth years as part of that level. ECNL will also still mandate the 4 showcases (Florida, San Diego, PDA and Championships. DA will not be an issue but will be split birth years (reverting back to the change to single birth years estblished for 2016) for 2017/2018. Also, are you suggesting that PA Classics is getting the girls DA Badge???

Anonymous said...

9:25
"PA Classics' best 99s already went to Strikers. The 99s won't pick up much there because the DA that they will likely be awarded will be behind the 99s."

Really?

Anonymous said...

Question,

Do you think a coach would informa a player where they stand when seleted at tryouts? for example "we would like to offer you a starting spot on the team" of "we would like to offer you a spot on the team, we have a strong group of starters and feel you can compete for a spot".

Based on the age change and fluid nature of tryouts it still seems like the clubs/coaches hold all of the cards. If a player is looking at 2 teams it would be nice to know if one has them slotted higher.

Anonymous said...

No harm in asking...nothing to lose

Anonymous said...

I have heard rumors regarding at least 15 clubs being mentioned as DA Possible teams in this area alone. Pretty sure it will be about 3 in the tri- state at most. Sure gonna be alot of disappointed clubs. I would believe if any clubs had a real inside track we would hear more concrete rumors. I would venture a guess that it might include Tab Ramos' club, Only because of his involvement on the National level. It will be his reward for pushing forward the recent soccer directives. It will also support the notion that soccer at the highest level is still about who you know and nothing more. Will be interesting.

Anonymous said...

There has been an ECNL announcement about a second ECNL team at 99/98 called the ECNL "composite" team. there is talk of adding 00s. Again this team is in addition to the 99/98 U18/19 ECNL team and the U17 00 ECNL team.

Anonymous said...

Oh and yes I think Classics will get the DA because the USSF is well aware of their famous progeny Chrsitian Pulisic. And yes I think the PA Classic u17 team was badly affected by the three kids who are now strikers and the u16 team is very weak.

Anonymous said...

Any thoughts on Development Academies being offered to those clubs which have been committed and loyal to USYS such as PA Classics or FC Copa.

Anonymous said...

Yes my thoughts are why would usysa have any influence on the decisions of the USSF? The USSF runs its ore academy organization through us club soccer. Why would they show any preference to usysa clubs?

Anonymous said...

Application for DA starts 5/2, be patient....
Many clubs are forming "composite" 99/98 teams due to sheer numbers...
The shame in all of this is that the 99s are definitely the "losers" in this birth year change...

Anonymous said...

I don't think you understand. This ECNL composite team will participate in ECNL showcases and the northeast ECNL league as an additional team. Not just a hodgepodge thrown together. It will have ECNL coaches coaching it and will not be treated as an afterthought.

Anonymous said...

9:46 AM

Or it could be another ID2 team. Not sure clubs can support a '00, 99/98, and 00/99/98 team for an entire season.

Anonymous said...

ECNL teams certainly have the numbers for all three. But I don't know what you mean by id2 team?

Anonymous said...

@9:46.. Has this been officially announced by ECNL? Our DOC said 2 teams for 98/99 was a possibility, but we haven't heard officially from the club. If it is official, will there be 2 divisions at that age or all teams in the same division?

Anonymous said...

Offcially announced at PF

Anonymous said...

PDA south relegated to lower bracket for PDA showcase. Breakers and Athelica in first bracket. Guess the hierarchy is once again verified. Bit disrespectful.

Anonymous said...

PDA South is NOT a competitive team. The powers that be cannot risk any more embarrassment at their own showcase.

Anonymous said...

So we can expect Gunners players to be shifted to Athletica and even Shore for the event to be sure. Breakers don't even belong it with those team.

Anonymous said...

I thought this website was maturing a bit but it seems like the children are coming out to play.

Anonymous said...

@358 sorry PDA b team parent. How are all the promised D1 full rides coming along?

Anonymous said...

7:04 What ever longstanding issue you have, it's time to grow up. You have a 16 year older daughter playing a a couple of years left to play. A good psychologist would tell you its time to look at yourself in the mirror and dig deep to address whatever mommy and daddy issues you have. Maybe call your parents and tell them that you forgive them

Anonymous said...

what is PF for the ecnl announcement mean?

Anonymous said...

That the existence of a composite team has been officially announced.

Anonymous said...

I think they are referring to the "PF", which is Penn Fusion.

Anonymous said...

Yes Penn Fusion composite team was officially announced at penn Fusion. Not voodoo. Tryouts tomorrow. How was the 00 tryout last night? numbers? new kids throwing hats in ring?

Anonymous said...

Continental had close to 50 show-up last night for each age group. about 200 girls in total for 98/99 down to 02. Quite a few new faces across all ages.

Anonymous said...

so has ecnl allowed clubs to have two 18/19 year old ecnl teams because of the birth year changes ? and if they have is the announcement anywhere to be seen?

Anonymous said...

PF and CFC 00 same night?

Anonymous said...

3:20pm

Yep. CFC again tomorrow and I think PF next Monday. The coaches/clubs know who is shopping around. I also think the clubs plan on having a conflict for at least one night.

Anonymous said...

What's Bucks looking like at 00?

Anonymous said...

lots of opennings at buck ECNL 0 players

Anonymous said...

What about FCB 99?

Anonymous said...

Lots of kids at bucks tryouts: buckingham and hulmville and langhorne and fox chase all losing their stud players.

Anonymous said...

Bucks 2000 tryouts had a lot of players. The Bucks 99s and 2000 roster has about 14 2000s so they need to add some. Bucks 99 tryout next week.
Are there any local non ecnl teams that my 2000 can tryout for and wont have to play up 99

Anonymous said...

8:29pm

Huntingdon Valley, and possibly the Philly soccer Coppa team. Not sure if they hold tryouts or invites. HFC Ready but they may be combining 00/99 due to numbers, I also do not think they play a league schedule. Could all possibly be PAGS short season then Showcases.

Anonymous said...

The bucks 00s are going to CFC

Anonymous said...

11:03 PM

Really??? For tryouts or brokered move?? Most kids at CFC were current only a few new faces.

Anonymous said...

The bucks players have been going somewhere every year. CFC this year, Patriots last year, strikers and YMS before that. Maybe they need a new agent!

Anonymous said...

Region 1 champions league question. Can you use players from another region one team within your Club on the club pass? Another words you have a u16 team and a u17 team. Can your u16 players play on your u17 team as well?

Anonymous said...

I think each state has their own guidelines plus there are also specific ECNL guidelines if your daughter plays there
In general, you have to be a primary...

Anonymous said...

Brokered move from Bucks to CFC for the 00s. Yes they were there...

Anonymous said...

Hey, did anybody Answer the question above. Does anybody know if the ecnl will allow ecnl clubs to have more thAn one team in a age group ? Like 99/ 98 to offset the new age rules disruption ? I would like to know as well . And if possible , is it published anywhere ? Thanks

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