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U17 Girls Youth Soccer

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Anonymous said...

Spirit VA may attract a few top players whose parents are just interested in getting the most "prestigious" patch on their daughter's uniform, but the smart players will stay far away from Spirit VA. First, there are 2 other DAs that practice within 30 mins of Reston that will offer known coaches and already have some (VDA) or many (FCV) quality players. Second, there will be competition from 2 ECNL clubs that will be as good or better than the other 2 DA clubs in terms of coaching and quality players. So Spirit DA will be at best the fifth best club in northern Virginia.

Why would any parent who is really concerned about their child's best interests sign their child up to (1) be subject to unknown quality coaching, (2) with practices against poorer quality players (3) to play against an unknown quality of competition (4) at a higher cost (5) which may or may not result in her being seen by more colleges?

In NOVA, the only reason to join Spirit DA is if your kid isn't good enough for one of the other DA or ECNL programs, and you want a chance to brag about how your kid plays on a top team. Of course, she'll be on the very worst of the top teams, but your buddies around the water cooler probably won't know what a joke Spirit DA really is.

Anonymous said...

11:40 I will play along - not from VA.

So you are telling me 3 GDA teams within 30 miles, correct.

Approx 60 roster spots for 02/01 players.
Approx 30 FREE roster spots (10 per team)

So you want players 21-30 to play for the other 2 GDA teams and pay full price when they can play for free? You can call it a "prestigious" patch but for the players not paying it's a little more. Plus for the players that want to turn pro some day - inside with the Spirit coaches might be a plus? no?

At this age it's all about the platform and exposure a good player can be spotted regardless. They might practive vs poor quality players but they play their games vs PDA/STARS/BREAKERS/OAKWOOD to name a few from region 1 that will field great teams.

You can call it bragging I would call it $2k+ in their wallets.

Anonymous said...

How dense are you? Nobody plays for free. At their ID sessions, Spirit DA is quoting a price tag of $7k, including travel. Do you really think a organization that can barely break even as it is can afford to pay full freight for 100+ kids per year (Spirit also has a MD academy).

Now try again but this time bring a legitimate argument, not something based on a complete misrepresentation of what is actually going to happen.

Anonymous said...

7 K inc. travel?

Not too bad

Anonymous said...

***Stay Away from PDA! ** Splash - until The Beard is replaced. Worst coach in soccer. Has no clue what he's doing.

Anonymous said...

Everyone hates a coach when you lose. Everyone loves a coach when you win. When Splash starts winning those negative posts will stop.

Anonymous said...

It'll stop as soon as the PDA GDA soccer tryouts are over this weekend.

Anonymous said...

Why?

Anonymous said...

Playing along as well. Sounds to me like someone with a grudge against Spirit DA or someone not wanting some key players from kids' ECNL team to leave for GDA. They have very good coaches, great facilities. Great start already.

Anonymous said...

Geared toward 11:40 am reference.

Anonymous said...

No matter where your daughter is trying out for DA, it comes down to evaluators and decision-makers. An existing "top" player should have a leg up. Or an evaluator has a list of existing players that are "bubble", looking for replacements.
I don't think these tryouts will be any different than any others.
Bashing clubs to keep people away from tryouts is ultimately lame....

Anonymous said...

Chiming in - agree with you but it happens. People are very territorial.

Anonymous said...

PDA tryouts or ID for outsiders?
A bit early for tryouts no?

Anonymous said...

Splash won't start winning until that loser the Beard, brings in new players. He has already been recruiting. He's a loser!

Anonymous said...

And that's because JB can't coach. The girls he has are fine. He's the reason they are losing!

Anonymous said...

So if they play DA they don't have to worry about him.

Anonymous said...

I agree 11:33 - If the team is going to lose at least 10 players for the GDA team - bringing in new players is a sign the NPL teams don't have 10 replacements. So if the kids play GDA they are fine if they are not good enough and play ECNL then they will make their own opinions of the coach.

PDA's Pyramid am I correct

Sky Blue - PDA 20 players (10/10 between 02'sand 01's) or could be more than 20.

Two ECNL teams - 2002 to use NPL players and 2001 to use NPL players.

NPL teams might fold as I am sure PDA will try to get two ECNL teams in each age group.

What happens to the NPL Clubs not in the ECNL? Do they still think this is the way to go? or do they go back to USYS Regional and National league?

For example Massapequa, NYSC, Manhattan, NJ Crush, STA, NJ Stallions, SJEB, NJ Wildcats, LVU to name a few.

or does the ECNL adopt the Boys ECNL model where they take NPL champions?


GDA - very simple approx 80 clubs for girls and 160 for Boys - I can see the girls number increasing. TOP of the PYRAMID

Level 2 - very good college recruiting level
ECNL - US Club
NCS/National League - USYS

level 3
NPL - Us Club
Regional Leagues - USYS

level 4
Other Regional Leagues CCL, NEP, EDP to name a few from both US Club and USYS

We saw BYC this season - and next year the Pyramid power play as parents look to put their kids in the best situation for their family.

Just a shame this didn't happen when our kids were u10.

Anonymous said...

Blah blah blahhh

You don't know diddly

Anonymous said...

hey 8:48 - 1:41 here - you got that right pal. Just a goomba with a girl that loves this game.

Anonymous said...

How were tryout numbers at various clubs in the region this past weekend?

Anonymous said...

strong...........

I wonder who attended multiple sessions - or if players are throwing all eggs in one basket, so to speak

Anonymous said...

PDA did a nice job keeping the turnout small

Anonymous said...

PDA Splash team is one of 3 in top bracket at Jeff Cup. Being from NJ I would want to be in one of those 3. Top bracket, Jeff Cup at U16! That is pretty awesome.

Anonymous said...

Yes, indeed

Hope they continue to represent NJ well.

How many of them will be playing Academy?

Anonymous said...

Judging by numbers over the weekend, they will be all be rostered DA

Anonymous said...



Hmmmmmmm

I am very certain that someone in a prior post said Baltimore Armour wouldn't have GDA and that players in the Baltimore would come to Central PA.....maybe the left over players..


-The Washington Spirit has added Baltimore Armour as a U.S. Soccer Girls’ Development Academy partner for the state of Maryland, which will now be called “Washington Spirit Baltimore Armour.” This partnership adds to the relationship already in place with Montgomery Soccer Incorporated (MSI), creating a direct “path to the pros” for over 11,000 female players in one of the nation’s top soccer player development markets.

“When we began the process of creating a U.S. Soccer Development Academy, this Spirit Baltimore Armour partnership was our optimal vision to add to MSI,” said Washington Spirit professional team head coach and Academy technical director Jim Gabarra. “The commitment this partnership represents will provide a platform to develop world class players and coaches here in Maryland.”

Baltimore Armour was created in early 2015 through a partnership between Soccer Association of Columbia (SAC) and Pipeline Soccer Club (Pipeline) and currently boasts one of the top U.S. Soccer Boys’ Development Academies in the nation. By partnering with the Washington Spirit, Baltimore Armour is now directly connected to a professional club in the top female league in the world, the National Women’s Soccer League.

“This is a monumental day for girls soccer in Maryland,” said Pipeline Soccer Club co-founder and vice president, as well as former U.S. National Team and D.C. United star Santino Quaranta. “The staff at Baltimore Armour are thrilled to work with the Washington Spirit and build a world class academy.”

Washington Spirit Baltimore Armour will be managed overall by Spirit 1st Assistant Coach Denise Reddy, who will be naming the full coaching staff in the coming weeks. With Reddy at the helm, players involved in the Development Academy will have unprecedented access to learn from and impress someone who not only knows what it takes to succeed as female professional players, but someone who can provide them with that opportunity directly when the time comes.

The clubs will announce the first opportunity for female players born from 1999-2005 to show off their talent later this week. Teams will be formed in the 19 and under, 17 and under, 15 and under, and 14 and under age groups, with exceptionally talented players born in 2005 also considered for the 14 and under team. Additionally, travel soccer players on teams at SAC, Pipeline, and MSI as of the fall 2017 season, will be eligible to participate in Development Academy activities and a limited number of games as “Developmental Players.”

Anonymous said...

Intersting
Link please?

Anonymous said...



http://washingtonspirit.com/pro/washington-spirit-baltimore-armour-join-forces-for-u-s-soccer-girls-development-academy/

Anonymous said...

Jeff Cup schedules are out

http://events.gotsport.com/events/Default.aspx?eventid=53446

Anonymous said...

Top bracket will be exciting to watch!! Anyone of the teams has equal shot at coming out on top

Anonymous said...

So how exactly will PDA get 2 ECNL teams???? Why wouldn't they move the Hornets to ECNL and leave South team at NPL and maybe move Shore to NPL?

Anonymous said...

How did they get two NPL teams? Stars could of had 3 NPL teams!

I don't think Hornets would be ECNL - I think South makes more sense since the GDA is North, Shore is in the USYS Regional with national league on the horizon since they will get the nod for any open spot if they don't qualify directly.

North - GDA
South - ECNL
Shore - USYS
North - NPL

Anonymous said...

Sky Blue PDA - approx 10 players from Splash.

Splash ECNL - will need 10 players from Hornets/South

Hornets NPL - will need 5 players
South NPL - will need 5 players

So we read Splash looking at 6 players (as reported on this board) could be to determine where they stack up with NPL players before tryouts in regards to spots on Splash.

Anonymous said...

The North definitely has a larger pool of girls to choose from. With their location they could pull girls from north and south Jersey.

Anonymous said...

If there is still a half a team of ECNL players that are all from the north area, I doubt they would uproot those girls and force them to travel to the south complex.

Anonymous said...

Seems there are mergers every week lately, in preparation for GDA

Anonymous said...

10:37
Do you care to share whose merging?

Anonymous said...

Regarding the mergers... our DOC said that both World Class and East Meadow will be outsourcing their GDA's. This allows them to keep ECNL.

The rumors are that:
NYCFC will run East Meadow's GDA.

Not sure who World Class is teaming up with?

Anonymous said...

Is that allowable? Sounds shady. Why bother applying for GDA then?

Anonymous said...

NYCFC has now been tied to East Meadow and to World Class

And you dont think there is any MONEY in this?

Anonymous said...

PDA so weak at this age,they to look some where else for players

Anonymous said...

3 kids committed high D1 already, 2 as freshmen. Thats just the ones I am aware of.

Yeah, weak group.

Anonymous said...

http://www.ussoccerda.com/20170216-feat-miriam-hickey-director-of-us-soccer-girls-development-academy-qa

Anonymous said...

PDA was very busy recruiting players last spring and over the fall and winter. Don't worry about them not having enough talent. There are players at practices all the time looking to get on the team!

Anonymous said...

Presentation from FC Virginia townhall:
https://sports.bluesombrero.com/Portals/6404/docs/...hall_Final%202_15_17%20re2.pdf

First part is club specific info but last section is on DA. FCV says they have meet criteria to have both DA and ECNL but haven't received word back from ECNL if they'll be allowed to have both. Consensus around northern Virginia is they will NOT have ECNL. Most other stuff is generic DA info. Estimated cost is $2750/year plus travel, which they think will be less than ECNL travel costs.

TIFWIW

Anonymous said...

I forgot, they also have hired Julie Shackford, former Princeton women's coach, to work in the DA.

While their tryouts are just starting, FCV is much further in organization than Spirit VA.

Anonymous said...

Any word on how Penn Fusion will be handling Girls DA and ECNL? are they dropping ECNL and going GDA only next year.

Anonymous said...

I thought the DA was free like the boys side, just travel exp? What will PDA & CSA be charging?

Anonymous said...

It's cheaper than our ECNL fees, currently. Win, win.

Anonymous said...


Penn Fusion will have GDA. The ECNL told PF they are no longer in the ECNL after this year.

Anonymous said...

6:23 If you are top of the roster player it will be free.
Approx 10 roster spots per club will be free everyone else pays.
The Boys DA is not a free ride for all yet, noway the GDA can be.

Anonymous said...

12:14 - PF told ECNL they were going GDA as they want to continue to be in the top of the pyramid. They want their players to be ready for the next level and beyond. Exciting times for sure.

Anonymous said...

Most of the membership at PF, along with 2 of the PF ECNL coaches are not happy about GDA. Those that think it is exciting times don't seem to understand what is coming. GDA at a NWSL makes sense, so guess we will see what happens here.

Having 30 girls on a GDA roster, most coming from the existing PF NPL and ECNL teams won’t make for a great experience for the kids. Kids want to play in games and there simply won’t be enough games to play for all the players. Especially when a significant amount of the players on the roster won’t be able to play at the GDA level, but the club will have to keep the player pool high for a number of reasons, player quality not being one of them. The best kids will be fine; the problem will be that there aren’t enough top level kids for consistency and that means players won’t get playing time. Also, not all the good girls want to play GDA and give up on high school soccer.

We were told about 30 players per team, 18 being able to dress and then having limited subs because of the substitution rules will make for some very unhappy parents and players. Parents are also disappointed that there doesn’t seem to be a quality option outside of GDA. Not all of the girls even want to do GDA. After losing the ECNL option people have some difficult choices to make.



Anonymous said...

Okay - we got the GDA vs ECNL thing down.

How about NPL leagues with club "A" teams. What happens to NYCSL or EDP NPL? Do these apply for ECNL or leave NPL like Massapequa is going to do.

With NPL being relegated below GDA and ECNL these clubs/teams are crazy if they don't switch back to USYS. USYS is set up with pro/rel in many ways.

Regional League >>> National League >>> USYS Championships
State Cup >>> Regional Championships >>> USYS Championships

two ways to ge to their National Championship which many say will be equal to ECNL Championships.

oh the drama

Anonymous said...


For female players that want to play in college, ECNL and GDA will be the two best ways to get there. The other options will continue to be the path for kids that don't want to play college soccer or are just looking to play D-III.

Perhaps some might want to go back to the days of USYS of having to travel to Barboursville, WV or Rhode Island to play on dirt fields against rec level teams from Vermont, New Hampshire, Western NY and West Virginia, but those that have had the chance to play in the ECNL or DA are not going back to USYS. There is a massive difference between the quality of ECNL and USYS. Even the boys are pulling out of USYS to do boys ECNL. USYS will continue to be for lower level participation based soccer and not competitive soccer.

Anonymous said...

3:39 Jefferson Cup is split 50/50 between USYS National league and ECNL teams. Yup they are not equal.

USYS NATIONAL LEAGUE
1. 1776 UNITED FC XTREME
2. BRYC ELITE ACADEMY 01/02
3. CINCINNATI UNITED CUP 01 GOLD
4. NJ STALLIONS ACADEMY 01
5. SJEB RUSH 01 GIRLS ACADEMY
6. SOUTH SHORE SELECT U16 AP
7. TOTAL FA TFA ELITE 01
8. UNITED FUTBOL ACADEMY

1. ALBERTSON FURY '01 ECNL
2. BETHESDA SC ECNL UNION 01
3. CASL 01 GIRLS ECNL
4. FC VIRGINIA ECNL 01
5. MCLEAN YS 01 GIRLS ECNL
6. PDA SPLASH 2001 ECNL
7. PENN FUSION SA ECNL 2001
8. RICHMOND UNITED 01 ECNL

--------------------------------------

ECNL teams not in top flight

CONNECTICUT FC ECNL U16
MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 ECNL
EAST MEADOW SC 01 ECNL

USYS Regional 1 Championships in VA not WV
Yup instead they play CFC Delco, FC Bucks, WNY Flash My kid played u14 last year and these teams wouldn't stand a chance vs my kid's team but it'snot about team any longer it's about the players and being in the top flights. correct?

Again my question is about NPL Clubs not in ECNL Manhattan, Massapequa, NJ Crush, NJ wildcats, NJ Stallions, SJEB.

in VA/MD the top CCL teams play USYS NCS.

Will these teams continue the US club route or are you saying all the players on these teams should go to the 5 ECNL teams in those 2 states? Wow that would be a huge roster.

Again do these teams stay NPL (US Club) or do they start leaving NYCSL to join LIJSL or EDP to play NCS and region 1 league?

PS. Region 1 league plays 6 games at two tournaments and a few local games, not the old USYS you remember.

Anonymous said...

GDA and ECNL at the top. Region I League and NPL are below, Different standards that won't change.

Anonymous said...

Was at the indoor state cup last night and saw some good soccer played by some very talented young ladies. Competition seem to be about even with 1 or 2 teams really standing out. However there was 1 coach whose team and name I will not mention that acted like a complete jackass. Please explain how screaming at your players with vitriol and anger make them better!

Anonymous said...

Some NPL teams may be ADDED to ECNL

Anonymous said...


No NPL teams will be added, the league has added clubs, some of which may be NPL programs to replace the ECNL clubs that left for the GDA.

Anonymous said...

I dont think the ECNL landscape is quite set yet for September

Anonymous said...

2:37 - I am a member of PF and I disagree with your comments. Many of us, including the kids and the coaches are excited. Those that aren't happy will move. And, those slots will be filled immediately.

Anonymous said...

Saw your post 2:37 - and agree with the above poster. I am not a member. Your assessment as to who will be filling the Penn Fusion GDA slots is incorrect also. The presentation noted that the best players will be there whether those players are PF or not. Sounds like sour grapes to me. Enjoy your drink.

Anonymous said...

2:37 - oh you apparently were not at the meeting, 22 per roster.

Anonymous said...

12:21am is it true PF will be rotating the 6 players from their Pre academy into the Academy roster?

Anonymous said...

I was at meeting and heard that they will have up to 4 development players (not necessarily) that will practice, but are not on the roster. They may earn a roster spot based on development, but not a guarantee.

Anonymous said...

6:25 what do these clubs do from the NYCSL NPL? As you said they are now tier 3 and can't play in GDA or ECNL the only way they can get into National league is by playing Region1 or NCS and both are USYS not US Club so they don't have the passes. What now for them? NPL is like the President's Cup on the USYS side. The Regional Championships, USYS NAtional League/NCS Championships still get the coaches so to call them a step below is not true.

What do these clubs do? Stay tier 3 NPL or do they move to USYS side since they can't move to ECNL?

Brentwood Youth Soccer Club NPL-01
Manhattan Soccer Club NPL-01
Massapequa Soccer Club NPL-01
New York Soccer Club NPL-01
NJ Crush FC NPL-01
NJ Stallions Academy NPL-01
Princeton SA NPL-01
Quickstrike FC NPL-01
STA NPL-01
SUSA FC NPL-01

We will see what the NJ NPL teams do once the NJ NCS teams are announced. I am willing to bet all are playing.

ALLEYCATS 2001G NPL
CEDAR STARS ACADEMY - MONMOUTH 2001
FC COPA ACADEMY G01 BLACK
JERSEY UNITED SOCCER SPARTANS 01G EDP
NJ WILDCATS FURY-NPL
TSF ACADEMY 2001G

BETHESDA SC STORM 01
MARYLAND RUSH RUSH 01G NPL
NEW JERSEY RUSH 02 GIRLS WHITE
PIPELINE SC BLACK
SAC PREMIER BLUE
SJEB RUSH 01 GIRLS PREMIER WHITE

so while 6;25 is saying "GDA and ECNL at the top. Region I League and NPL are below, Different standards that won't change." THREE region1 teams in top flight at Jefferson Cup over Three ECNL teams,something doesn't add up 6:25

PS. Let'sget one thing straight GDA is the top of the Pyramid ECNL is tier 2
just like USYS National League / NCS. There will always be teams like PA Strikers that can't play ECNL or GDA and are equal to them in talent so the alternate is USYS National league for those teams

Anonymous said...

Heard PA Strikers are moving the team over to an ECNL club for the 2017-18 season.

Anonymous said...

They are coming late to the party. Why play the 2nd tier?

Anonymous said...

Love what STA is doing to get their teams college exposure!

Anonymous said...

Please share what STA is doing. The comment is very random. Would like to hear what they are doing differently than other clubs.

Anonymous said...

??? Isn't everyone? That's the name of the game. These kids aren't playing just for fun, sadly. It's about getting looks to play in college or beyond.

Anonymous said...

So PA Strikers won't be free anymore?

Anonymous said...

Where have you been? They haven't been free in at least a year.

Anonymous said...

WOW - thanks 11:23 didn't know that.

Anonymous said...

While you guys go back and forth GDA vs ECNL, I am going to start talking about something really taboo, results in the now 2016/2017. Starting off with the current top of the pyramid which looks like this going into the spring.

Champions League Qualifiers
McLean Youth Soccer ECNL U16 [2.69]
Penn Fusion SA ECNL U16 [2.50]
FC Virginia ECNL U16 [1.79]
Bethesda SC ECNL U16 [1.64]
FC Bucks ECNL U16 [1.50]
East Meadow SC ECNL U16 [1.17]
Connecticut FC ECNL U16 [1.00]
Albertson Fury ECNL U16 [1.00]

Champions League Wild Card Qualifiers
Maryland United FC ECNL U16 [1.89]

North American Cup Qualifiers
Boston Breakers Academy ECNL U16 [2.33]
FC Stars of Massachusetts ECNL U16 [2.33]
Continental FC ECNL U16 [2.00]
World Class FC ECNL U16 [1.33]
FSA FC ECNL U16 [1.33]

Showcase Qualifiers
Richmond United ECNL U16 [1.16]

Not Qualified - Post Season
WNY Flash Academy - ECNL U16 [0.80]
PDA ECNL U16 [0.67]
FC Boston Scorpions ECNL U16 [0.33]
Match Fit Academy ECNL U16 [0.00]

Anonymous said...

Thanks 5:40 - - a lot of these teams have played zero to 3 games...

Anonymous said...

Which ECNL club? I am guessing CFC for Strikers. Makes sense there is no compeition in the USYSA world. Their model, great as it was, is anachronistic. Sorry their daddy warbucks stopped infusing his money into it. It was a great thing with parents having zero influence. Coach's dreamworld.

Anonymous said...

How many of the Strikers will play DA?

May suck up some of the 30% scholarship money

Anonymous said...

@ 6:30 pm - i'm surprised they didn't make a move long before this upcoming spring season. As someone already posted, they are late to the party. Many of the top players across the country have moved out of various USYS teams, already.

Anonymous said...

11:15 - possibly. Many clubs will most likely reward the kids that helped them earn the emblem. The top players that can go anywhere and improve a team.

Anonymous said...


At this point I doubt you will see any kids from 1999-2001 FC Bucks, CFC and PA Strikers move to DA. It just isn't worth leaving high school soccer now as most of the DA level players are set with college. The most movement will happen with 2002 players and younger. The 2003 players won't have an understanding of high school soccer so it won't be an issue with making the DA commitment.

Anonymous said...

9:05 - You probably didn't think the GDA was going to happen this year, either.

Anonymous said...

If daughter is "committed", then ask future college coach where they recommend she plays. End of story!
They'll want the highest level possible.
Yes, my daughter asked. And no, HS was not included in the answer.

Anonymous said...


Our daughter is going to a program that was in the 2016 Final Four this year. He said to stay where we are because the coaching is better at our ECNL program. He also thinks the GDA is going to be a bust. If moving to the GDA was going to be a better option we would move, but at this point it won't. It is good people have options.

Anonymous said...

Yup
Check with future coach and go with it

Anonymous said...

10:25 - well I know kids that were supposed to go to the futsal finals as well and passed because it doesn't matter. Those kids are doing GDA. It's whatever you want to get out of it.

Anonymous said...

whoops, wrong blog. Erase, erase. Thought I was on futsal blog.

Anonymous said...

I'll play along...they played futsal and skipped finals for no good reason?
Went to chuck e cheese instead?

Anonymous said...

Hi 10:25 - interesting, but I am not sure I follow.
She "is" going or "was" going? And, were you leaving to go from one ECNL to another ECNL? And you are saying the ECNL coach from the team you were looking to join said don't join because the coaching at the team you were looking to leave is better (you must not have agreed if you were looking to leave)? Many holes in this one it seems.

Anonymous said...

I beleive the poster was talking about his daugher's college commitment, not one ecnl to another

Anonymous said...

My gal is going to a school that probably would have been in final four if they had their full roster (kids were at WCups) and her coach said to do GDA. Options.

Anonymous said...

Then that rules out UNC. He wasn't too happy about the whole red shirt season....

Anonymous said...

Can't name a school that liked it; unless their girls didn't opt in like Stanford. Not much they can do when it's an international sport and the FIFA WC's happen to fall during your college season. They do try to plan around it, but it's all about who gets called up.

Anonymous said...

Internationals coming in and playing 1-2 years NCAA is problematic.

Anonymous said...

Caveat no?
Many on this board have aspirations for their daughters to play NT.
then their daughter is in college and gets called up and that's a problem?
Choices, choices....

Anonymous said...

When did PA take over this blog. I would like to say congratulations to South Jersey Elite barons. Great job knocking off DCFA.

Anonymous said...

Where's PA?
Are you talking futsal?

Anonymous said...

Jeff Cup winners for top 3 divisions

SJEB Rush
Oakwood
PAC

Anonymous said...

Thank You 10:48 - my top 2s and bottom 2s in every flight

U16 Championship
top 2:
MCLEAN YS 01 GIRLS ECNL
CINCINNATI UNITED CUP 01 GO

Bottom 2
UNITED FUTBOL ACADEMY UFA 01G PREMIER
NJ STALLIONS ACADEMY
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Elite Orange
top 2
OAKWOOD SC ATTACK
MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 ECNL

Bottom2
ARLINGTON SA 2001 GIRLS RED
PREMIER SC NAVY 2001
---------------------------------------
Elite Black
top 2
CHARLOTTE SA 01 PREDATOR
GPS-MA NPL GIRLS 2001

Bottom 2
HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER
PA CLASSICS ACADEMY '01
---------------------------------------
Superior Orange
top 2
VIRGINIA RUSH 01G
WATCHUNG HILLS NJ ELITE

bottom 2
BEACHSIDE SC CT
LOUDOUN SOCCER 01G RED
--------------------------------------
Superior Black
top 2
PDA SOUTH 01
LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED 2001

Bottom 2
SJEB RUSH 01 GIRLS PREMIER
TRIANGLE FC ALLIANCE 01G
-------------------------------------
Platinum Orange
FC STARS NPL 01
SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER

bottom 2
JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC
------------------------------------
Platinum Black
top 2
EMPIRE UNITED SA ROCHESTER
FC STARS CENTRAL UNITED 01

bottom 2
RICHMOND KICKERS U16 G ELITE
FSA FC GIRLS NPL 01
-----------------------------------
Classic
top 2
PENN FUSION SA NPL 2001
RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '

bottom 2
FC RICHMOND FCR MYSTX '01
TSF ACADEMY 2001G

Anonymous said...

Why is East Meadow in the 3rd flight?

Anonymous said...

BC their stats placed them there?

Anonymous said...

who are the idiots who schedule the games for the Jefferson Girls Showcase? Our team is coming from very far east and we have an early game on Friday and a late game on Sunday. Do the organizers give any thought to the amount of time the parents have to take from work and the kids from school? We have to take 2 days from work , the kids 2 days from school and by the time they get home Sunday, it could be 1 am. they then have to get up early for school Monday.

Thanks for the consideration (NOT)

Anonymous said...

Sounds like your coach didn't give you a heads up? Is it your first trip to Jeff Cup?
The early game Friday is why your team hotel booking starts Thursday night.
The latest game is 2:40 Sunday right?
Welcome to Jeff Cup!!

Anonymous said...

Jeff cup is awesome. Great fields, real bathrooms, and the best competition. Weather typically holds up, last year little rain, little cold, but not bad. Mild winter should help as well. Who knows with byc what is going on at jeff cup this year, many of those teams are changed.

Anonymous said...

8:52 - yeah, can be rough. A friend that is from a DI school on the west coast said it would burn him up when he coached youth that heading east to tourneys like Jeff Cup his club would get the early games first day and late games last day. He swore it was intentional. Is it? You would hope not, but.....

Anonymous said...

Word is that the $6-7k estimated cost for Washington Spirit Girls DA does NOT include travel. Because the academy has no existing teams to spread the infrastructure/administrative costs over (admin, fields, coaching, etc.), the DA girls will be paying all of those costs, so fee will be twice as much than the girls at the other local DAs with travel programs in place. Also Spirit was asking for major "contributions" for clubs to be an affiliate of the program to offset the costs but was offering very little in return.

That's a far cry from the free ride for the players that many people on here foolishly believe was going to happen.

Anonymous said...

High level youth soccer is for affluent girls. This is not news.

Anonymous said...

many girls getting DA callbacks?

Anonymous said...

Our club, like many, have only held id for players outside club.
Have only heard indirectly that some have been told to come back for general club tryouts

Anonymous said...

11:22 - i saw that on a comment in maybe it was this blog as far as cost for that club. No one gave it a yeah or nay. If you have any questions, i suggest you go to the source. The blogosphere isn't always correct. A lot of hype.

Anonymous said...

The cost is very subjective club to club. You have to ask the questions if you're uncertain. Many comments on the blog are not 100% fact for everyone...thank god by the way!

Anonymous said...

Or 100% fact, period. I find a lot of whisper down the lane with a keyboard.

Anonymous said...

Agreed. And some info shared may be intentionally misleading and some just silly gossip. Do your homework.

Anonymous said...

If DA clubs can get $6-7k a girls, why would clubs like MFA & others drop out? sounds like you can make some money at that range.

I think it would be a good service if people post their club's (not just DA's) price not including travel so we can see which clubs are a true value.

Anonymous said...

I think travel is included in that 6-7k

$3,000 Club Fee +
$3,000 - $4,000 to include flights, Hotels for 10 to 15 nights plus gas and food?

No way anybody pays $7,000 plus travel. PS. I think we always over estimate anyway.

Look at ECNL for example.
Fly to CA and FL plus play in NJ - so that's 2 flights and 4 nights minimum.
Then they travel to MA, CT, NY & PA that's another 8 nights plus tolls and gas.

$1,800 - 12 nights at $150 per night
$2,400 - $400 per seat for a family of 3to get to CA and FL
$2,500 - ECNL Club fee
$6,700 - not including tolls, gas and food.

So we can we leave travel out of the equation and talk just club fees so it's apples to apples.

Anonymous said...

Then 4 years of free school....sign me up....

Anonymous said...

No travel is NOT included. As I stated, and heard from several sources, it's $6-7K without travel. Spirit DA has no existing infrastructure so there's only 8 teams (VA and MD) to pay for the shared infrastructure *registration, other admin costs), and then VA pay the costs for not only the team coaches but also the costs that are normally spread across the whole club of many more teams, such as the technical director, goalkeeping coach, fields, etc.

So instead of the pro team supplementing the costs of the DA, at least for Spirit Virginia, it turns out the the pro-affiliated DA will cost twice as much as the two nearby DAs (Spirit MD should be a little less).

Anonymous said...

I heard that Spirit was charging clubs $150k to "affiliate", Can anyone validate that is the cost of "admission"?

Anonymous said...

The kids which will get the "free school" (not going down the scholarship discussion road again) do not need the DA to get them there; so why pay all that fee?

Anonymous said...

So you are saying, 8:05 - that moving from ECNL up to DA can not earn a player extra $$ of scholarship?

I am skeptical of your stance on this.

DA candidates who are uncommitted stand to benefit if they open up their lists of possible schools.

Anonymous said...

This first year of DA is scary and leaves more questions unanswered than facts....

Anonymous said...

that's exactly what the critics said about ECNL as well.

Anonymous said...

in it's infancy.

Anonymous said...

All you need to know is the main clubs in NJ/PA/NY are going GDA - I'm guessing it's the same in MD and VA.

10:33 the people making a stink are the people on the outs. The ECNL beat up on the Non-ECNL for years and used it's the girl's equivalent to BDA since the USSF didn't create a GDA. Well know they did and we all know the GDA is now the top of the pyramid and the ECNL parents/coaches/doc are using the same argument the USYS Non-ECNL and NPL teams used in the past. What is that saying what goes around?

Anonymous said...

You "guessed" wrong about VA and MD. Of the top teams in VA and MD, at most you could argue two have chosen to go the DA route - FC Virginia, and its partner Loudoun. In northern VA, McLean, Arlington, and BRYC chose not to do DA. Based on the past few years, I no longer consider PWSI a top tier club on the girls side, and their DA partners are unimpressive. The top VA clubs in central VA (Richmond United) and the coast (Beach and Rush) also did not choose the DA path. In MD, both Bethesda and Maryland United elected not to pursue DA. Spirit MD's partner club, Baltimore Armour, is not a top tier girls club.

So given how wrong you are about what's happening in MD and VA, why should anyone give any credence to the rest of what you're spouting?

Anonymous said...

So you expect me to believe all those clubs were offered GDA spots and turned them down? Whatever dude. All I am saying PDA, Penn Fusion, World Class are in so are FC Stars and Boston Breakers I'm sure you heard of these clubs and their resume.

Now I see what all the Spirit comments are about? They are they only game in town with a seat at the table and all those high quality players will be leaving your clubs, oopps.

Anonymous said...

And so begins the immaturity....

Anonymous said...

my player is not leaving one of those named clubs in VA to go to any of the GDA options here, and she is a top player

Anonymous said...

How stupid are you? Why would you say "They are they (sic) only game in town with a seat at the table" when there are two other DAs only 30-40 minutes away?
Once again, you demonstrate your complete ignorance of what's actually happening.

Anonymous said...

http://www.soccerwire.com/news/mclean-youth-soccer-kicked-out-of-development-academy/

This happened with the boys' so maybe they decided to go another route. I know several top tier players moving to GDA from this team. US soccer has said they will take away emblems from teams that are not top level.

Anonymous said...

My daughter is a top player and is not interested in GDA and is not the only one .

Anonymous said...

2:07
What graduating class?

Anonymous said...

1;37 How many times do I have to say I'm not from VA/MD and have no clue about where the training fields are. The dude said the following 8 clubs 1. McLean, 2. Arlington, 3. BRYC, 4. Richmond United, 5. Beach, 6. Rush, 7. Bethesda and 8. Maryland all said NO to GDA and also said at most you could argue two have chosen to go the DA route FC Virginia and PWSI and their partners and of course MDs Baltimore Armour were scrubs also.

So educate me about GDA in VA/MD how many of these 8 clubs are in Spirit's backyard? All I read is hate about Spirit and don't understand where that is coming from. My kid is a freshman and I get the PDA Storm and East Meadow HotshotZ hate and the PennFusion/PennLegacy/PA Classics triangle in PA from this board. So ignorant and stupid i am when it comes to VA/MD soccer - educate me the old U14 board never had VA/MD talk it was all NJ/NY& PA.

PS. you can call me a tool also once stupid gets old.

Anonymous said...

Yes even the MLS can see the enormous $$$ in girls soccer.
MLS and NWSL club academies huge advantage over other clubs.
How bout that.


New York City FC are delighted to announce the NYCFC Girls Soccer Academy.

The new Academy program will provide an elite training environment for girls across four age groups (U-14, U-15, U-16/17 & U-18/19), offering the highest level of technical standards and competition for New York’s brightest young talent.

Launching in Spring 2017 and in conjunction with NYCFC Youth Affiliate World Class FC, the New York City FC Girls Academy will join the U.S Soccer Development Academy. The Academy will play out of World Class FC’s Orangeburg location, one of the nation’s top soccer-specific facilities, and opposite the Club’s under-construction City Football Academy elite training facility.

Sporting Director Claudio Reyna said: “We’re delighted to be launching this Academy which will provide high quality soccer coaching, and a genuine pathway to U.S Youth National teams and top collegiate programs.”

“This is a significant moment in the history of our club as NYCFC make a commitment to girls soccer and announce an Academy which we believe will contribute to the bright future of the women’s game in the tri-state area.

“With more than 1.5 million girls playing soccer in the US, including more than 200,000 in New York, there has never been a more exciting time to be involved in the game.”

Jon Patricof, President of NYCFC, said: “City Football Group has demonstrated its dedication to the women’s game with the launch of Manchester City Women in 2014 and Melbourne City Women in 2016. Both teams have since gone on to win their league titles, and we are so happy to build on that success with the launch our own girls Academy program.

NYCFC Girls Academy will be led by Director of Coaching, Kazbek Tambi, who has significant experience as a coach and player, taking the U.S U-17 National Team to the final of the 2008 FIFA Women’s U-17 World Cup, and coaching current U.S. Women’s internationals and professional players, including Morgan Brian, Crystal Dunn and Lindsey Horan. Tambi joined World Class FC 7 years ago and has developed many of the top metropolitan players over the last 20 years.

The program is part of the new U.S. Soccer Development Academy Initiative, also supported by four MLS clubs FC Dallas, LA Galaxy, San Jose Earthquakes and Orlando Soccer Club.

Girls aged 14 to 19 years old who are interested in playing for NYCFC Girls Academy should inquire about registration by emailing info@nycfcgirlsda.com and visiting our website to register for more information.

Anonymous said...

207 What is your definition of a "top player"

Anonymous said...

Hahahaha. I agree and thought the same thing. Everyone thinks his or her kid is a top player. The truly top don't have to tell everyone. They just show it.

Anonymous said...

Definition of top player:
Stands with her back to the goal, many times offside, waiting for the ball to get to her in this great kick and run game some like to play soccer.
Oh...and when she gets the ball, she scores at least 25% of the time!

Anonymous said...

Wow 3:09, you just nailed it and described some of the best players in soccer, such as Alex Morgan, Marta, Christine Sinclair and even Lotta Schelin. They are indeed players that play with their backs to the goal and get called offsides a lot. But to be honest they don't score twenty five percent of the time they get the ball. I am just hoping that my daughter plays a little bit like they do.
Please pass along any other insightful tidbits you may be holding back.

Anonymous said...

So only goal scorers are top players?

Top field players in my opinion - positive attitude when in game or not, composed with the ball at her feet, connects well with team, transitions to defense, great tackler and can play any position on the field (not goalie) and not hurt the team at any of them and of course use both feet equally.

But it doesn't surprise me that many think goal scoring forwards are or maybe a #10, but to me the most important position on any soccer team besides the goalie is the #6.

Anonymous said...

I'm 3:09 and was totally being a smart a..
9:22, that's exactly why I said this, some think goals are all that matter

Anonymous said...

I was very very happy we had the goal scorer in our last contest - a 0-0 affair that went our way 1-0 late

Yep - goal scorers - absolutely love em.

Anonymous said...

Happy for your daughter's goal

Anonymous said...

11:26 so happy that player tackled the ball away, dribbled past everybody and got the shot off to score and of course before that she was running all over the place defending. 8:28 no worries, I liked the question. 11:26 back to you again, yes without goals you can't win and without opportunities to score you can't win either and without great defending and working hard you can't win either. So you think goal scorers are the top players on all their teams?
Who's more Important to Barca Xavi or Messi? Which one had more success with their NTs? which one didn't score as many goals not even close. But I agree we all love the goals

Anonymous said...

Xavi retired many months ago....Sergio Busquets is the bomb! Without him starting it all, Messi, Neymar and Suarez couldn't score.

Anonymous said...

Busquets is massively struggling this year and has been a bomb... With Iniesta plagued with injuries Messi has to carry and lay the bricks this year for Barca. It is nice having Suarez and Neymar around..

Anonymous said...

Heh

11:26 here

Do I think goal scorers are the best players on their teams?

Frankly, no. It varies. And is not an important question anyway.

I can tell you after seeing a match who I think the "best" on each team is - in the context I saw her play.

On my daughter's team I don't rate the players. Its unhealthy and unnecessary.

And no, smart guy - my daughter didnt score the goal I mentioned above.

Anonymous said...

And ultimately, it only matters what the coaches think of the play and players....College coaches go to showcases looking for specific players that will fit their team.

Anonymous said...

back to GDA talk...
How are clubs evaluating their existing players? Was told of scrimmages and some early looks before tryouts

Anonymous said...

8:32 sorry but GDA talk is boring until they start playing games in Fall 2017.
until then some results:

ECNL GU16 - Northeast

December 10th
4 Albertson Fury ECNL U16
3 East Meadow SC ECNL U16

2 Penn Fusion SA ECNL U16
0 FC Bucks ECNL U16

March 04
0 FSA FC ECNL U16
0 Boston Breakers Academy ECNL U16

March 5th
6 Boston Breakers Academy ECNL U16
3 Albertson Fury ECNL U16

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EDP GU16 1st Division East

March 04
1 READING RAGE '01 MORGAN
1 SJEB RUSH 01 GIRLS ACADEMY

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ERL GU16 Elite Division

February 25, 2017
0 EMPIRE UNITED SA EMPIRE UNITED ROCHESTER G16 2001
1 FC FREDERICK '01

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MSC Kickoff

0 FC COPA ACADEMY G01 BLACK
0 MANHATTAN SC PRIDE 01 NPL

3 WORLD CLASS FC '01 NPL
1 FC COPA ACADEMY G01 BLACK

2 MANHATTAN SC PRIDE 01 NPL
1 EMPIRE UNITED BUFFALO G16 2001

0 FC COPA ACADEMY G01 BLACK
2 EMPIRE UNITED BUFFALO G16 2001

2 MANHATTAN SC PRIDE 01 NPL
3 WORLD CLASS FC '01 NPL

0 EMPIRE UNITED BUFFALO G16 2001
5 WORLD CLASS FC '01 NPL

0 WEST OTTAWA WOSC 2001 GIRLS OPDL
1 NEW YORK SC ELITE G01 SAPPHIRE

8 PRINCETON SA IGFA 01 NPL
1 CAPITAL UNITED SC BLUE FORCE

1 PRINCETON SA IGFA 01 NPL
0 WEST OTTAWA WOSC 2001 GIRLS OPDL

2 NEW YORK SC ELITE G01 SAPPHIRE
0 CAPITAL UNITED SC BLUE FORCE

1 NEW YORK SC ELITE G01 SAPPHIRE
3 PRINCETON SA IGFA 01 NPL

1 YANKEE UNITED F.C. FLASH NPL-01
0 ALBERTSON FURY NPL 01

3 HOLMDEL F.C. NJX CREW
2 FC BOSTON SCORPIONS 2001 NPL

2 FC BOSTON SCORPIONS 2001 NPL
3 YANKEE UNITED F.C. FLASH NPL-01

2 HOLMDEL F.C. NJX CREW
1 ALBERTSON FURY NPL 01

1 YANKEE UNITED F.C. FLASH NPL-01
1 HOLMDEL F.C. NJX CREW

0 ALBERTSON FURY NPL 01
1 FC BOSTON SCORPIONS 2001 NPL

0 NJ CRUSH FC STORM NPL
0 RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '01

0 NJ CRUSH FC STORM NPL
1 GPS MA STATE ELITE GIRLS 2001

Anonymous said...

No, that post was just boring....

Anonymous said...

yeah not to many VA/MD results sorry. wait for it.....
spirit suck don't go there.....

Anonymous said...

For those that like to use "Kick and run" instead of direct. It is a tactic used by many schools and for this to work you need players that fit the style. You may not like it but it will never go away. I am not a fan of this style, but it does get results most of the time.

"The further back in the build a team’s leading passer tends to be, the more direct the formula. Atlanta United’s five leading passers by volume, in order: Greg Garza (left back), Leandro Pirez (center back), Carlos Carmona (defensive midfielder), Michael Parkhurst (center back), and Alec Kann (goalkeeper).

This is precisely how coach Tata Martino pushed Barcelona during his time there, and it’s how the Argentinian national team looked under his care"

Anonymous said...

You are making distinction between "kick and run" and direct correct?

Anonymous said...

One in the same.

Anonymous said...

8:43 - you mean many high schools, right? And, I agree, to use it occasionally during the run of play works, but to rely on it, solely?? I don't think it's very effective anymore.

Anonymous said...

8:43
If you're saying that tata tried direct with FCB and it didn't work, you're correct.
If you're saying that's how they play now, you're on crack

Here's direct play defined for you. Yes, most high school play:

Players almost always pass forward
• Many passes are long and vertical
• Many passes played into areas – kick vs pass
• Many passes are played into space behind opponents’ back
line – foot races
• Lots of fights for ‘second balls’
• All goal kicks are punted long
• All throw-ins are thrown long ‘down the line’
• All free kicks in defensive and middle third are kicked long
with everyone moving up for the kick

Anonymous said...

http://www.soccerwire.com/news/clubs/youth-boys/washington-spirit-hires-tom-torres-as-girls-da-director-in-virginia/

Anonymous said...

12:40 - agreed. Oh and you forgot, on some of those long balls, headers that are just popped into the air; numerous times without direction because it's fun.

Anonymous said...

To feet vs to space

You are saying all balls played to space are of the incorrect "kick and run" type.

Funny.

Anonymous said...

If I could chime in on your assessment.

Well, that's too general "all balls played to space...". Playing to space where your teammate is going (should be going) is tactical; playing to space where it's a 50/50 ball - not smart.

Anonymous said...

The point is that a team needs to adapt to the play of the other team.
If you watched US women last night, they were lost and couldn't stop France. 3 back should've gone to 4 back and that is a game where the long ball should've been used more bc possession sucked and our ladies were given ball away constantly.
When you see 2 offenders constantly beat you in speed to get around you...figure it out damn it!!

Anonymous said...

So one more defender and the first two goals dont get scored?

Rather simplistic.

We had a great run, great pass, GK semi-error on Goal 1

And a flat out 1 v 2 toasting on goal 2 (one defender was blatantly beat by speed the other overcomitted and slipped)

PERSONNEL was more the problem. Great opposing player not contained.

Anonymous said...

When you are the number 1 team in the world sometimes you think to much of yourself and experiment or you get to see what some players can really do when the deck is stacked against them. Simple we dribble way to much and miss opportunities because we hold the ball to long and then play a ball that's has the incorrect weight or is played to the wrong foot or even behind the player killing the attack. In general we are not a creative bunch because we have basketball/baseball/football/lacross coaches teaching our kids when they are young because we are not a soccer nation yet and this is killing us as the world gets better and we stay the same. ECNL had a great platform with the USSF backing them but they went the $$$ and only cared about the top of the roster the players they can market to keep the cash coming in, instead of flat out teaching the kids. Some will say they did teach the kids, to them I say have you watched any of the YNTs play? Japan has left us in the dust.

Did you see the 3rd goal -watch it again - I forget the girls name but she just watched the ball go past her without even an attachment to block it then puts her hands on her head- for real. The facts are 3 or 4 in the back France is just better as is was England and Germany. We finished in last place on our home fields. Would Sweden and Japan finished a head of us if they were here -are we number 6 in the world now?

PS. mistakes are part of the game and good teams make you pay for them.

Anonymous said...

9:23 - ??? On first goal, France had the great run and pass not us. Brian (didn't think she had a great tourney either) turned over and Long got beat (as she did again only minutes later). PK deserved as GK did sweep feet and didn't get ball, but she had to do it.

Just like in Youth Soccer teams, WNT needs to broaden player search not narrow it.

Anonymous said...

Oh girl with head in hands after third goal, Long. Possibly Ellis, too.

Anonymous said...

What happened to the youthsoccerrankings.us? Awesome site. Hate to see it go away. Now all we have is GotSoccer?

Anonymous said...

YSR is gone, unfortunately. Here's the note:

"With much sadness I have decided to shut down this rankings site. My real job has gotten a lot busier recently and I do not have sufficient time to dedicate to keeping this site updated. Thanks to everyone who has contributed over the years."

Anonymous said...

YSR no more. Oh. Shame. It was a very good site.

Would like to send a thank you to the creator. He/she did a wonderful job and had a great idea how to combine all the rankings for the closest to a true ranking you could get. Your hard work was very much appreciated.

Anonymous said...

http://www.excellesports.com/news/womens-soccer-losing-good-for-uswnt/

Throwing this out there.

Anonymous said...

Great article
Nothing to add

Anonymous said...

What about this one???
http://equalizersoccer.com/2017/03/13/ellis-three-back-formation-fails-the-test/

Comments are worth the read as well.

Anonymous said...

Can ECNL and GDA exist at the same club?

Anonymous said...

PF had to choose one or the other so I'd say choice must be made

Anonymous said...

GIRLS' DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY CLUB DIRECTORY 2017-2018
with an ECNL team duringthe smae 2-17-2018season.

1. Concorde Fire
2. Crossfire Premier
3. Dallas Texans Soccer Club
4. Eclipse Select Soccer Club
5. FC Dallas
6. FC Stars
7. Michigan Hawks
8. NTH Tophat
9. Real Colorado
10. San Diego Surf Soccer Club
11. PDA
12. So Cal Blues Soccer Club
13. Solar Soccer Club
14. West Coast Futbol Club
15. Slammers


Don't worry PF all you have to do is jump in bed with the phila union and you can have both or maybe CFC Delco will beat you to the punch

More and more MLS clubs will get into the GDA easy money. Keep thinking GDA won't be the top of the pyramid.

NWSL
1. Boston Breakers Academy
2. Houston Dash
3. Orlando Pride
4. Portland Thorns FC
5. Seattle Reign Academy
6. Sky Blue - PDA
7a. Washington Spirit Academy Maryland
7b. Washington Spirit Academy Virginia

MLS
1. FC Dallas
2a. LA Galaxy
2b LA Galaxy San Diego
3. New York City FC
4. LAFC Slammers
5. San Jose Earthquakes

Anonymous said...

11:37 - about 8-9 of those teams have Directors on ECNL board. Not too hard to connect the dots.

Anonymous said...

sorry, clarifying, 8-9 of the clubs allowed to have both are on ECNL Board.

Anonymous said...

It's good to be the king?

The point is it can be done and why would any club play in a league that doesn't treat it's member clubs equally?

Would you? I wouldn't if it was my club but it's not. Watch for PennFusion or CFC Delco to partner with the Philadelphia Union, thisis why they didn't merge, one is going to hit a homerun.

Anonymous said...

I absolutely agree with your "It's good to be the king" comment; ahhhh, Mel Brooks. Classic.
And also agree, why be part of a league like that.
That would be cool re the MLS affiliation. I have my fav re it. :)

Also, would love Union to pick up an NWSL team, too. Talent Energy Park (which was quite nice to US Soccer/results) was packed. Fingers crossed they see the forest through the trees.

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Anonymous said...

Bring back the Independence!! and Tasha Kai

Anonymous said...

Agreed.
I've watched her play for Sky Blue. She is awesome.

Anonymous said...

2:47 - I agree with you that ECNL has already shown it doesn't treat member clubs equally or fairly. What do you propose? More teams join another league? If so, which one?
From a business perspective, I still can't believe ECNL did that.

Anonymous said...

It will be different now with the boys' joining. The entire purpose of the league was to focus on girls. Now, it's to just get more teams on the girls' side.

Anonymous said...

Looked at the NCAA Recruiting List on Google. What a great list. Author did a great job (t/y). Hasn't been updated recently it seems. Is there another being used, now? Will miss this. So informative.

Anonymous said...

Can someone put these in order. What is the top league/program and where do all the others fall. DA, ECNL, NPL, ODP, EDP, USYS, CJYSA, USYS, NYCSL, LIJSL, NCS, Region 1, etc...

Anonymous said...

8:15 my opinion. based on leagues (did not include ODP, id2 or PDP)

1. GDA
2. ECNL or USYS NL
3. NPL (EDP & NYCSL) or RL (USYS 4 Regional leagues) or Super Y
4. CCL, EDP, NYCSL, NEP
5. CJYSA (not EDP divisions), LIJSL, PAGS, JAGS

National Titles:

1. GDA
2. NCS (only because this is open to all members andyou need to qualify)
3. ECNL (was #1 before GDA, but with the change and ECNL taking a club hit while still being closed)
4. Super Y - Also closed a league
5. US Club national Championship - I put this last because it's pay to play it's open to anyone who pays the the Regional event fees and they play teams that won State cups. So in other words you can lose state cup but still play in the regional event if you pay)


If player is a D1 talent then GDA, ECNL, NL, NPL and RL teams are where you have to be or ODP. Isay this because these teams get accepted to the major tournaments, I don't see many teams from LIJSL, CJSYSA, PAGS or JAGS being accepted to CASL, PDA or Disney on the east coast.

Just my stupid opinion

Anonymous said...

I know you stated its your opinion and that's totally fine.
But for me, I don't know how you can put an unproved league as #1.
Teams haven't even been formed yet. They haven't played 1 game or had 1 practice yet.

If your equating the girls DA to boys DA, even then there is potential but I don't think there will be immediate impact at this age. Maybe for the girls that are starting not as U11's and 12's.

But, that's just my opinion.

Anonymous said...

It will take 2 to 4 years for the Girls DA to make any significant impact. ECNL took several years to impact the college recruiting network and it needed buy in with college coaches to promote it when ECNL clubs started pulling them into the equation to coach.

I look at the DA and ECNL to battle back and forth for several years. As many of the ECNL coaches are either at or linked to coaching ECNL while GDA is more US Soccer brand. So opinions can vary if you feel your daughter is potential national level type of player(1-2%) of all girls than GDA is where you want to be. If you feel your daughter is D1 college player than ECNL is by far your top league.

Of course you'll see the power schools 1-50 like NC, Penn State, UCLA, Florida continue to recruit early from GDA in the future the schools ranked 50-340 and lower will look at the next avenue which will be ECNL.

So in my opinion you rank leagues based on where you plan your daughter's ability and what level she wants to play. National type player of course GDA, college bound player GDA/ECNL.

Anonymous said...

12:24

In your OPINION what will be keeping the DA (say, U17) teams from being superior?

How many - give me a percentage - of ECNL players will be making that commitment?

What will be the negative aspects of DA - in the sense of being competitive in a DA vs ECNL top team game situation?

Thanks

Anonymous said...

8:32 - Don't you think there are some areas that the NPL is strong as well (not necessarily the entire league, but pockets of teams). Usually it's where there is no ECNL or where the market isn't overly saturated with several ECNL teams.

Anonymous said...

12:24 - need to make clear that these are when the GDA kicks in. Currently, ECNL is the top where GDA would appear on your various lists. Right?
It's interesting that you have ECNL coming in after NCS after GDA kicks in. Very interesting. NCS is only open to non-ECNL so not really open to all. Currently, ECNL can't participate. Does that change after GDA? And, then does that make a difference in your grid?

Anonymous said...

12:24 - I hate to break it to you, but US Soccer Federation has already made that decision. Currently, it's ECNL. Most if not all of the top kids in ECNL will go to GDA, like it or not.
So, as USSF has proclaimed, GDA will be where most of the best will be (currently proven or not). It has already been given the clout. Don't be silly to think otherwise.

Anonymous said...

I agree. I saw a comment on the U15 blog (I have a younger child). It was the last one that could be posted. Boy those U15's can complain. lol
Anyway, it noted various rescheduling this past weekend of DA tryouts. Clearly they had no clue that ECNL/PDP schedules were what caused the conflict (and the weather) as most (if not all) of those kids will be GDA.
The best advice I have seen is find the league that fits you, your daughter, your family. And, get the most out of it for whatever you, your daughter, your family want out of it. There is plenty of soccer out there. It will all work out.

Anonymous said...

8:32 here i based my list on this criteria again my opinion.

1. USSF the top of the pyramid so their league will be the top of the pyramid for top players that want to play NT and the top schools will recruit these players - so other players will want to be there as well to play with the best, wy wouldn't they? College recruiting won't be an issue if your kid plays GDA.

2. I placed the top US Club and USYS leagues in this spot.

3. I placed regional leagues that advance to a national championship - NPL is US Club's 2nd tier as RL for USYS

4. Super Y is club neutral that advances to nationals so for some kids this is an avenue.

5. Regional leagues that stop with a league title no advancement

6. I didn't list a #6 but this would be all other leagues not recreational.

12:24 GDA is USSF and will attract the best players that want to play NT and the best players that want to play with the best. College recruiting will not be an issue for these players

1:12 "college bound player GDA/ECNL" plenty of clubs not GDA/ECNL have college bound players (top 50 soccer schools) but that is your opinion.

4:45 Kids playing HS will join club after HS they will just miss GDA showcase events to play for school if that floats their boat and will join team after HS season.

6:25 NPL is tier 2 by US Club standards with ECNL being tier 1.

6:50 I would have ECNL and USYS NL after NCS since NCS is open to every team that is registered with them if they qualify - not a group of guys in a room saying they are good enough. ECNL teams can participate if they also play in a USYS league - NCS is open to all USYS team -ECNL is NOT OPEN to all US Club teams they are open to their clubs only.

6:53 agree 100%

I don't think GDA cares about the younger age PDP schedules, do you? GDA cares about their U17, U19, U21 and NT teams - I don't seen many at a PDP event with a shot.

Again just my opinion. I like when every one has a chance what you make of it is on them can be good or can be a shock to their system (really bad)

Anonymous said...

Was just at a PDP event (U15-U18). It had current NT players and a few that will be asked out for sure.

Anonymous said...

Was there too; unless the politics of soccer kicks in. ;) Kept hearing the Rutger's coach cover for screw ups her teams were making. It was laughable.

Anonymous said...

NYCFC DA tryouts postponed due to low turn out - not the snow.

Really not the snow - we all know the best WC players are in so where are the others coming from?

Long Island has two clubs - willing to bet Albertson and east meadow players go there so if they are not affiliated what does that mean for those two ECNL teams?

FC Fury NY Bay Shore, N.Y.
Long Island SC Plainview, NY
New York City FC Orangeburg, N.Y.

GDA will be the place to be

Anonymous said...

https://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2017/03/20/20/38/20170320-news-u19wnt-klimkova-calls-up-26-players-for-training-camp-in-florida

These are 1998 and 1999 girls the article says. Good to see a few gals from Region 1 in this. Isn't the PA Classics girl listed on Penn Fusion? Hasn't she been there for several years?

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