Thursday, October 2, 2014

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Anonymous said...

"they are the best team in nj and the only team that will be in top bracket at jeff cup from nj....so be ready.... "

No they aren't (see above you in rankings), and no, they won't.

Anonymous said...

Problems? You have enough problems with that crybaby. ..please someone says some positive about your team and you make it negative. ..you Have the problem

Anonymous said...

Ahh, I remember the good old days when we all could laugh at the Jackson/NJF/Holmdel fiasco. IGFA/TSF have decided NOT to learn.

Anonymous said...

9:59 and 10 and 10;04 you are stupid if you think that those comments are coming form the team in question. you know better . in this blog lots of people have lots of time in their end and since it has been kind of boring in the off season why not spice it up with some comments to piss off people and have a reaction. you know that as it happened many times. i can start one right now and go on for two days based on nothing and for a week more we are going to fall and start to comments and trash a team.
whoever does this things please stop you are hurting teams that work really hard and group of young girls that are good and do not deserve this kind of treatment. ANY TEAM AND ANY GIRL

Anonymous said...

Oh, so they played the game then?

Anonymous said...

Sjeb was a one trick pony they are done,nj crush?they still play?we all know who is the real #1

Anonymous said...

Please no one else would be wondering if GFA ever played their game vs TSF other then them. They are so obsessed with getting any kind of validation that they are a good team that it's got to be embarrassing to their club.

Anonymous said...

No NJ teams in top flight at Jeff Cup. 4 ECNL teams: Bethesda, FC VA, Richmond Strikers and FC Bucks. Other teams are Triangle NC, NYSC, Clay Cty SC Black Fla, Premier Strikers MD.

Based on this many NJ teams will be in flight 2, 3 or even 4.

Anonymous said...

That just goes to show what those outside looking in feel about jersey soccer at this age group. Although it sucks I do have to say that they got it right.

Anonymous said...

So many good teams why only a bracket A and B. Could have easily had a C and even a D bracket

Anonymous said...

3:14 it also shows the weight ECNL clubs carry. 50% of the top flight.

Looking at the balance of the clubs that are left to be flighted I don't think NJ will have more than 2 teams above flight 3. Many teams are going to be playing flight 4 and below.

Anonymous said...

I agree. There are some damn good teams left. Lucky to see more than 1 jersey team in the second flight. Long way to drive for 3rd, 4th and 5th flight play.

Anonymous said...

Predictions?

Anonymous said...

You can say what you want about The Force but they were clearly the best team in the age group at the time. If they were to assemble again it would be the same way!

Anonymous said...

What's with the random Force post?

Anonymous said...

4:01 I predict we see teams like Crush, Real,STA, and Copa in the bottom 2 flights.

Anonymous said...

LOL @ FC Bucks! they're not better than the top 4 or 5 NJ teams.

Anonymous said...

"You can say what you want about The Force but they were clearly the best team in the age group at the time. If they were to assemble again it would be the same way!"

By that theory, Brick should be the best now, right?

Anonymous said...

Brick IS THE BEST! Best team in NJ by far. Dominate everyone.

Anonymous said...

The top team picture in NJ will change over the next few months as teams lose kids to PDA and MF. It happens at this age every year. Both programs will end up with very strong NPL and ECNL teams. Just look at the older teams they have now. Then look at the older teams in the other clubs program. No comparison.

Anonymous said...

Not even sure of why there is talk about the Force but I don't believe anyone other then them thought they were the best team in NJ. Americans, Brick, SJEB & STA were all better then them while they were here. I guess the Brick reference is due to the fact that they picked up some of their players but didn't MF, Freehold & Copa too? I would say by looking at this past season & seeing what all the top 10 teams did you would have to put Brick #1 because they faced everyone else there & has wins over SJEB, GFA, Stallions & NJ Crush & no other team can say the same. I would still have to say the top 3 are still PDA, Brick & SJEB until they really start going downward. Hard to still rank PDA since the last time they played any of these teams they lost to SJEB but I'm sure at least at their tournament they'll get to play them again so we'll see & GFA had a very nice season finally playing in top flights but 1 final doesn't get you there yet but could be the next team to join the top 3 only time will tell but my advice is stay off the blog bragging because it will only hurt your reputation & when you don't make it to the top ie Jackson & Freehold you will get destroyed on here. Real top teams don't care what people say they just take care of business & don't worry about jealousy. Good luck to all teams this coming season & let's try not to make this age group the trash group on this blog.

Anonymous said...

What about MF did they poach any more players this year?how come they are not playing at jeff cup?

Anonymous said...

MF has 31 players rostered & with all that they still aren't doing well in league play. Anyone that would go there to be part of that is crazy! They already lost their academy status with the boys & who knows how long they will be aloud to compete on the ECNL.

Anonymous said...

But they are the top ecnl team in nj and have the best players from nj and pay the most money for the top training on a gym floor? When are tryouts?

Anonymous said...

Pda the only team from nj that can play with region 1 teams,not one team has won outside of nj

Anonymous said...

From U14-U18 PDA and MFA are both top 20 programs in the country. PDA is stronger, but both are exceptional. Is a rumor that ECNL will add a 3rd NJ club in the next round.

Anonymous said...

"Brick IS THE BEST! Best team in NJ by far. Dominate everyone. "

Yeah, no one from Brick would ever say this. We let our track record and play do the talking. No need to toot any horn. Trolling at its finest.

Anonymous said...

Brick?? WHEre has the Wildcats been? Heard they rostered 20! Didn't get accepted to Jeff cup?? Is it true?

Anonymous said...

Wildcats are trying to get to academy level. Won't happen still taken girls from town teams.

Anonymous said...

MF is really trying to convince you they are a top club like PDA but they don't match up anywhere to prove that point. Show me the team from MF that has beaten a PDA team. MF could be replaced in the ECNL & the team in this age group with 30+ players don't go anywhere to play anyone & especially stays away from other NJ teams so they don't get exposed. Keep drinking the koolade which is quite pricy.

Anonymous said...

MF is going to be the best team in NJ ! Brick GFA etc .. Are nothing compare to MF.
The girl that moved this season with them is the best player in the state but the other are good too

Anonymous said...

I see that girl is back on here or her parents as they reference the 2 teams that have done better after that player left their teams. Sad really that the player & parents have to try to promote her so badly because in games against the top teams she has never faired well or stood out which is the true test of a top player. MF will be another team which will do better after that family leaves mark my words. MF team couldn't beat Brick or GFA but you'll never see them play those teams because then you would have to explain to the parents why they are paying so much money for very little other then being in a league where they are towards the bottom of their flight.

Anonymous said...

By the way, she is a national ODP player at an age when most of the top players are participating. There are clearly those who disagree with your assessment. Will be interesting to see which '01 players are called into USSF national camp this year. Don't be surprised to see her name on the list at some point.

Anonymous said...

They were talking about the forward

Anonymous said...

ODP = Owns deep pockets.

Anonymous said...

By the way, she is a national ODP player at an age when most of the top players are participating. There are clearly those who disagree with your assessment. Will be interesting to see which '01 players are called into USSF national camp this year. Don't be surprised to see her name on the list at some point.


Well unfortunately this is not true,

Girls from PDA did not participate in the ODP experience.

Many better2001's girls on the u14 and u13 team.

ODP regional team is a nice accomplishment for the girls but lets not exaggerate the quality.


USSF camps for 2001 already taking place. if she is part of that then she has a chance, otherwise, family is paying a large some of money for a good experience with some good players around the region and to be part of a good group in a national pool.

Most in the national odp pool go no where as they can't compete with the elite player being identified for free during the ID2 process of both the EDP/NPL and the ECNL.



Older daughter has been down this rode, it was not a waste of money but there was not a pot at the end of the rainbow.

If club chooses her as part of the free ID2 2001 process then there would be no need for any of this except for the experience.

Been there done that !







Anonymous said...

My daughter plays ODP with at least one girl from PDA, so sorry, that's not true. And while id2 is free, right now it is a shell of what ODP is. If you look at the players from the top college programs, you will see the letters ODP all over their profiles. But id2 might be as good in a few years.

Anonymous said...

Please stop with the misinformation. 4;32

ODP is a nice experience, cherish it, a lot of good memories.

id2 and training camps is where you want to be.


I can assure you that there are no girls who start on either PDA ECNL group at the 2001 odp age group.

If a non starter is playing ODP more power to her!


you don't need ODP or ID2 to play in college and you should check recent stats about the domination of freshman and sophomores coming out of the ECNL.





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Anonymous said...

ID2 is not really "free" as coaches from very expensive clubs are the gate keepers.

Anonymous said...

Not every girl who plays for PDA lives in NJ.

If you make it into national team or even the pools through ODP, you will pretty much have your pick of colleges. Long history to prove it. Very little history to support id2, but maybe. A lot of what is great about ECNL always seems to be if the future

Those girls you refer to would be "dominating" wether the ECNL existed or not. They received great training which can be found many places. The ECNL becomes more watered down with every addition but great clubs remain great clubs. Put it this way, if you are playing for PDA ECNL, the letters PDA hold more weight than the letters ECNL.

Anonymous said...

Again......

cant believe we have to keep going over this -

Just because freshmen and sophs from ECNLs are doing well collegiately doesnt mean every kid is in a better place if on an ECN roster

Some of you may wish to skip the process of dealing with this logic. It does take a decent level of sophistication.

Its like saying the 53rd payer on the Seahawks is better than an All Pro from the Giants - simply due to the team he is on.

God bless those top level ECNL girls. They deserve the accolades. Just that all ECNL players cant ride their coattails and earn that automatic rep

Anonymous said...

The Jefferson Cup brackets are out!!!

http://www.gotsport.com/asp/directors/tournament/vieweventteamscleanb.asp?EventID=39085&Group=Girls_14

Anonymous said...

I think you might find this spreadsheet interesting. It lists players commitments. You can break it down by club, grad year or college at the top.
It is not perfect, but is pretty good. At top soccer programs, you will see many ECNL players with national and ECNL id2 credentials. You will also see USYSA credentials including national champions and quite a few listing regional ODP accomplishments.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AriynKqmGsRwdGUyR1ZrSFFUbHFZblNCMnBNZnNqc1E&output=html&gid=5

I have kids going both routes. Both are very accomplished individual players, but the teams that fit them best happened to be going down the two (largely)separate pathways.

Anonymous said...

Looked for several institutions that were not on this list. Is this only a list of colleges playing Division 1 women's soccer?

Anonymous said...

Please stop with ecnl credential crap... If they are good colleges will find them. No need to pump your chest slick.

Anonymous said...

"if they are good the colleges will find them"

Maybe true for local D3 colleges looking at players on local level teams. beyond that- Urban myth. look at the spreadsheet and look at the schools your kids are interested in and correlate with the clubs from which they came. Will give you an idea of how many "lost boys" (girls) are "found" by college scouts on their measly budgets. On the flipside look for your club if its even listed and see where the kids are going.


Where, exactly are the college coaches finding them? If a team is not playing in regional level, at least, tournaments, where are the "colleges" going to see them? And what colleges are you talking about? If your kid wants to play D1, do you really think that a college is going to invest in a kid who looks spectacular against low level competition? The answer is no. They will need to see that kid compete at the highest level. She will at least have to guest on teams that are more competitive and play in at least the top few brackets at regional, if not national tournaments. Our American Ethos really wants us to believe that a kid can rise to the pinnacle from nothing. Is possible but not if she continues to play local travel.

But if you want to believe in the myth then please let us know how that works for you in 2 years. Yes 2 years because most of us will know what kind of D1 offerings our kids are looking at by early 2017.

Anonymous said...

I'm not even getting into the ECNL or not debate..but why does everyone think that D1 is the only way to go? You can not go D1 if you plan on majoring in pre-med, for example. Game schedule and class/labs will simply not allow it, if your desire is to take a semester abroad, you can not play D1. The school owns you!
D1 is not for everyone. If you plan on playing on a top school (the UNC's, Stanford's and FSU's of the world)and plan on making soccer your life as a coach or player, I am assuming your daughter must already have top credentials and ID'ed, right? If not, think education first and soccer if it fits.

Anonymous said...

Player must weigh the costs vs. benefits of collegiate sports absolutely. Do you want preclude yourself form certain difficult majors because of a sports commitment? Do you want to take on a difficult major and also try to play a college sport? One or the other will likely suffer. And I am not just talking about D1.

Anonymous said...

What teams arent playing on a regionl level, 12:16?

Who are you addressing? Parents from which club?

Anonymous said...

I really have nothing to add to this blog...I just wanted to be the 1500 person to post!

Anonymous said...

It has been said before on this blog, but worth saying again.

ECNL is the newest and most likely platform to get get noticed by top level college programs. It is about playing the odds. There are of course other paths to success, but they are less traveled and riskier for sure.

ECNL is run by US CLub, and their ID program is ID2. It makes sense that it is or shortly will be the top ID program.

ODP is run by USYS, has always been overpriced for what you get, and has been on the decline for several years. On the Boys side, the academy programs caused the sharp decline in ODP a few years back, and ECNL is doing the same thing now on the girls side.

Most people still look to ODP if they are not close to any ECNL clubs, it is the only option they have right now. That may change, but as of right now that is the reality.

If that is not your situation and you are still shelling out money to ODP, you may want to re-think it.

Anonymous said...

boring boring boring.... COPA COPA COPA LETS WIN JEFF CUP! WE ARE READY

Anonymous said...

are they still together?

Anonymous said...

2:07
In answer to your question:
Those teams that regularly choose to compete in events wherein teams from multiple states at least including, Mass through VA if not also NC and OH, are present. This might include events such as jeff cup, ECNL league, and Region 1 champions league.
In general, I do not try to address individual club parents, but instead try to make more global points so to contribute to these discussions.
But as to whom my comments were addressed: I was targeting parents of talented children who are likely the best player on their local teams. These parents might believe the urban myth that "if they are that good the colleges will 'find' them". I don't believe the myth to be true- in the vast majority of cases. I believe its a poor gamble to believe the myth. If the child's desire is to take her soccer to the highest level possible, then I believe the parents would be better served moving their child to an environment where they will face regional level competition and likely be viewed by many more and more competitive level coaches. Recruitment is happening so early for girls that the myth needs to be busted or there will be a bunch of girls who wanted to play at the highest level and now can't because their parents didn't move them early enough to provide expanded opportunities for them or not at all.
This post will, I'm sure, make some parents angry who want to believe the myth. They wish to passively sit back and watch their "star" play against weak competition believing that they will be "discovered". If the child was going to be "discovered" it would have happened by now. You are going to have to make some choices that you don't want to make at this juncture- drive a distance longer than you have previously and probably spend more money. If you are thinking seriously about this, do it now for the spring season. At least get your child training with some regional level teams and see where she stacks up. She will also be well positioned for tryouts. U15 is a key year. She needs to get on the radar if she wants to play for a competitive D1 school. No I am not worried about your kid taking my kids spot. I hope your kid will push my kid to greater achievement.

Anonymous said...

To 9:15am:

Thank you for elevating the level of discussion on this board. It has been deficient as of late.

Anonymous said...

The kids that might take your kids spot aren't even playing soccer

Those playing - I don't think there are many not playing upper level club while still seeking a scholarship

Educating yourself on video process, rules and tips on e-mailing coaches, attending college camps can all be done while playing for any of a good number of teams in each state

Anonymous said...

It's a myth because 9:15 said it was. Thankfully God has spoken now we can all go on with our lives.

Anonymous said...

Indeed, and if your child does not aspire to be a D1 or even D2 soccer player by all means disregard my post. But you are being misled if you believe otherwise. Good luck to your children. Always seems to denigrate to negative name calling. Pity, really could be great exchange of ideas and a useful resource.

Anonymous said...

wiki leaks where are you?

Anonymous said...

If they are not playing soccer but would be able to take my child's place then where are they?

Videos and camps only are helpful if 1) the coach knows the competition against which your child is shown competing and then even its doubtful that the video even gets a viewing and 2) The camps are ok if your kid is already going into the camp listed by the coach as a "player to watch". That is the coach has already seen her play. You would know this if the coach emailed or called your child's club coach to tell him he saw her play and is interested. The club coach is then allowed by the NCAA to forward to you the interested coach's email including his cell number for your kid to call. Otherwise unless she really is a superstar its a waste of money. Even then its hard to get the coach to peel his eyes away from the names that were on his clipboard before the camp started.

Anonymous said...

Reality is most colleges have a limited recruiting budget. That is fact. They will go to ECNL events first as it is a consolidated group of talent for them to pick from in fixed locations which keeps the recruiting cost down. After that they will look to NPL and look at teams that play good competition. You can agree or disagree but it is fact that is how they recruit. Ask any / all D1 coaches. Good luck if you don't play in those 2 leagues.

Anonymous said...

You all have no clue at all. College coaches just dont watch games and pick who they want. Unless a player is of superstar level they dont try to recruit players that havent shown intrest in a school. The last thing a coach wants is to recruit a player that helps the team and after a year that player decides that school, city, campus isnt for them. Coaches want to scout players that have intrest in there schools. This is not football or basketball. For the most part players seek out schools and contact coaches. Those that believe you will just be found for playing on certain team or league good luck. Talk to a D1 coach that doesnt work for youth academies. Truth is there is a school and division for every player if they want it. Wake up people and stop using your daughters team or league to flex your muscles.

Anonymous said...

You are correct. However, my older child sent no letters to coaches prior to her first "national level event" in her freshmen year and she had 5 D1 coaches including Big 10, Big East and Atlantic 10. schools contact her coach with interest. She is now in the midst of the dance. Not a national player. I am not sure how many of her teammates were similarly contacted. But I believe that you are correct in your position for the majority of "role" type players - Players 6-18 on most rosters which of . I just don't think you are quite correct on the level of player who gets "cold" contacts. My child is probably player 1-5 on her roster, but not a national superstar.

Anonymous said...

7:51

Occasionally a coach WILL find a player "by accident", having attended the game to see a teammate or opposing player - or simply because it was 2 very highly rated teams slated to play.

Anonymous said...

Why would you want interest from a coach to drive such an important decision as where to get a college education?

You and your kid should do the work of researching great college fits and then you should use your soccer resume to pursue the school, not the other way around.

Anonymous said...

I am sure this is the way most do it

But sometimes a coach can bring to light an opportunity that IS a great fit but hasn't been considered

Anonymous said...

Unsolicited interest from a coach might be flattering and may come with some $$$$$, but if the only thing they know about a kid is that they are a great soccer player, the possibility that it is a match made in heaven seems remote.

Anonymous said...

" Anonymous said...
Copa number one in state before end of the year. You heard here first
October 8, 2014 at 1:16 PM "

How's that going for you?
LOLOL

Anonymous said...

We are good thank you very much . We finally got some players out of the team that were trouble ( goalie etc) and now we are stronger than ever . You will see at Jeff Cup . We will be champion AGAIN since we won there also last year. Only NJ team that won

Anonymous said...

I guess this qualifies as Copa wishing their former GK well

Anonymous said...

FYI all brackets are very strong at the Jefferson Cup. They reject too many teams for it to be weak. Last year copa played flight 6 and GFA flight 5 and both played some very tough highly ranked competitive teams. Look for yourself if you don't believe. Any team travelling to Jeff Cup for any flight will get good competition.

Anonymous said...

Is that what your coach is convincing you that it is worth traveling all they way to VA even if you play 5th & 6th flight competition? Next year when you are showcase age you think they will come watch teams playing in that low of flights? Also seeing how many ECNL & NPL teams are 4th flight & below shows you how much they think of all the teams in those leagues but I'm sure their coaches are telling them too how important it is to play in those leagues if they want to be seen. Keep buying what they are selling instead of educating yourselves as they are counting on that.

Anonymous said...

Still waiting 956 for you to enlighten us as to the whereabouts of these wunderkinds you have referenced who pose a threat to my child's roster spot. Could potentially spark more interesting discussion. As to 353, good luck with your gamble and enjoy watching your kid tear up the travel leagues. I hope your gamble pays off and she ultimately realizes her dreams- God

Anonymous said...

Can all posters with kids playing on travel teams please stop posting here. You may only read and learn. Don't you know that this game is about WHERE your kid plays, not HOW your kid plays?

Anonymous said...

You can post, but for a change try and post something intelligent instead of "this coach is terrible" and "this team is better than that team" and "that kid isn't really that good...

Anonymous said...

Yes. Opinion and commentary on the quality and competitiveness of coaches, players, and teams is reserved for posters involved with programs that cost a minimum of $2000 per year excluding travel and some payers must travel a minimum of 30 miles to practice.

Anonymous said...

If you find that type of conversation interesting then carry on. The more global discussions regarding youth soccer development, recruiting process for kids about to enter high school, and questions asking for direction to optimize their child's experience and opportunities are more interesting to me. Especially since this is supposed to be a region 1 forum and not a NJ travel league poke at each other forum. Maybe the moderator should separate the 2 so you can carry out discussion that interests you without being bothered by those who wish to discuss more global youth soccer issues pertaining to children of this age and gender.

Anonymous said...

No interest in bashing teams or players whatsoever. Arrogant and superior attitudes from posters in the business of high level club soccer deserve some push back.

One topic of interest in this state is how to "optimize the experience and opportunities" for talented players operating with a travel soccer budget as opposed to an expensive club budget. Play in the ECNL or go bust is useless advice for most families in this state regardless of the skill and interest level of their players.

Anonymous said...

What specifically embodies the optimal experience that you seek? Some possibilities: Fun for the player and family? Achieving her personal highest possible level of play? Admission into the best academic college possible? Matriculation to college as cheaply as possible? Play soccer in the most competitive college environment possible? Play professionally (yes I know there's no money, but it still might be the objective of some players)? USWNT? I am sure there other possibilities.

There will be different paths depending on the end each player and her family seeks. Narrow it down a bit and there is a great topic for sure.

Anonymous said...

A coach from a high level program inquires about a talented player on the opposing travel team when they have an occasion to compete. This player has been with this team for several years and has been taught to play by her travel coach (hired coach - not a parent).

If the travel team path is really so inferior , how can this player have developed enough to be desired by a high level program?

Anonymous said...

girl could have naturally talent that comes through either because of or inspire of what coach is doing and now its time to play with like players

Anonymous said...

inspite

Anonymous said...

But why now? On the U11 board, they can it must be at U11. ON the U12 board, U12 or its too late. U13 is the same story.

Anonymous said...

For sure at u 14 a talented coach and a motivated, athletic player in combination can put together an ECNL or premier level kid. Even an impact player. No one said otherwise. The point was that if she stays playing for this coach her opportunities will likely decrease with time. At least in part from exposure. You said one kid. Likely this kid stuck out because the others were comparably weak. Her development though likely to continue may not at the same pace she would if she was training with and against similar kids. The travel coach should recognize the limitations of his program, be proud of what they accomplished together and encourage her to continue to challenge herself to achieve whatever is possible. That actually happens...

Anonymous said...

Spring EDP brackets

http://events.gotsport.com/events/default.aspx?EventID=43269

Anonymous said...

Predictions for Spring EDP
HBC
GFA
Commack
Alleycats
Copa
Westchester
Nhp
Bridgewater
Smithtown

Anonymous said...

Pridictions for EDP central
Premier Strikers
Brick
SJEB
Stallions
Lower marion
LVU
Wildcats
Galaxy
Freehold
RUSH

Anonymous said...

the strikers and gfa the two best teams by far in edp.

Anonymous said...

Looks like tsf was sent down a division by Edp. Coach got what he deserved for refusing to play GFA.

Anonymous said...

What happened to NJX?? Got moved down to 2nd division now...Should have moved under MFA and will now slowly decline especially moving into the HS years!! Are those three parent coaches still on the sideline or did they wake up and bring in someone who knows how to coach??

Anonymous said...

Will the STA girls be returning to MF practice again this week? Will more come now that they have lost their coach again?

Anonymous said...

MF will take them all , promise the world and divide them between 3 teams. STA was on the down fall and I guess this confirms it. Lots of money spent for players that now have to find a new home or stay with what will probably become just an average team. MF could def benefit, with a few nice players.

Anonymous said...


Revolving door for coaches and players. 4th coach in 12 months.

Which MF team were the STA players training with? ECNL, NPL, EDP?

Anonymous said...

The ECNL team.

Anonymous said...

I have a question. I hear of other girls leaving teams during the season. We have an opportunity to move our daughter now to a better team they will player better competiton than ours. Our coach told us that he irony release another player until the end of the season. Some girls left us in the fall. Can he make us stay until the end of the season? We want to leave our team now.

Anonymous said...

You can leave at anytime. All you have to do is talk to you new club and have them re-card you. Your new DOC should be able to walk you through the process. You are not under contract with any team. It is a bit harder if the previous club does not release you but it still can be done.

Anonymous said...

There is not such middle of the season thing. You can leave when you want following what you think is right for your daughter. Might lose some money if you are in a club that makes sure you pay in advance.

Anonymous said...

You can leave whenever you want. The only thing you can't do is go from one ECNL roster to another in midseason, or at least you cannot play in any ECNL league games or events until the following fall. You can probably play in non-ecnl events, tournaments, friendlies, etc in the spring.

Anonymous said...

Coach told us that his decision was final and he would release players at end of season. Thanks for the advice. I will talk to the DOC at our new club. Glad to get away from a coach who is afraid to play games and wastes our time.

Anonymous said...

"We want to leave our team now"

You are what is wrong with youth soccer.

Anonymous said...

Coaches can leave when it is good for them. Teams can add players as they want. Remember this is a business and they want your check.

Why would a player not be able to leave when it is good for them.

If your team is in transition or they are not providing a good environment for your kid why would you stay. Do whats best for your kid.

Anonymous said...

STA being placed in the bottom flight of Jeff Cup cant be helping them retain players after another coach has left.

Anonymous said...

STA also dropped to 2nd division in EDP with Holmdel & TSF.

Anonymous said...

STA still vying for a bid to Nationals

Anonymous said...

Can anyone tell us about the new STA coach? Is she not well liked? With players back from injuries do they not have a decent team?

Anonymous said...

The coach is probably not the problem. Probably plenty qualified. Its the uncertainty of the team, players and coach. Third coach in less then a year. Tough fall season, and top players being offered roster spots elsewhere. Im sure they will get through the spring but the top two or three players will probably be gone before that. They will probably move a few B players up and if they don't do well as a team they will probably loss more players. Teams will be all over trying to grab some of them.

Anonymous said...

MF perfect for sta kids,MF full of kids that can notmake PDA and full of castoffs from pda bteam waste of money with 30 plus kids. Good luck with that. !!!

Anonymous said...

You have said it yourself - Match Fit doesnt have to be tremendous in W-L just yet

Anonymous said...

So just using STA as an example, is it beneficial for a player to leave a team like this where she gets tremendous playing time to join a more well-known team and play half a game or even less? Maybe even doesn't even dress at an ECNL team with 25 on the roster?

Anonymous said...

anybody still on sta should jump if they can,MF not the place to go,filled with kids that cant make pda and a bunch of pda castoffs from the b&c teams...

Anonymous said...

In order to get better as a player, your needs to play with like minded players and actually play for 75% of the game.


If your daughter is a good solid player that is what you should be looking for.

Clubs like PDA are great if you are going to play a significant amount of the game. if not - don't bother. Better to pick an ECNLor other high level team where the coaching is stable and your daughter will get significant playing time. check their recruitment history before joining any team.

Anonymous said...

If you are looking to leave you should evaluate your current team. What are they doing or have done with the older teams they have. Are they getting into the right events? Are they able to maintain rosters with little turnover? Is the current team developing and playing strong competition. It is not only about what is going now. You need to look at what will potentially take place in the very near future.

Then look at all of your options with other clubs and evaluate them the same way.

Keep in mind the majority of the information on here is wrong and based on assumptions not facts.

If I was in a situation that was not stable I would explore options because you can bet others on the team are as well. This is a year for a lot of change. Many teams will not be the same as they are today due to people coming and going.

Anonymous said...

3:14 tell your coach that his decision about release means nothing. It is your decision that counts. You can leave at any time.

Anonymous said...

As most of the players are heading to high school, can anyone comment how girls in EDP, NPL and ECNL juggle high school sports? Is it possible to play a winter high school sport? What about a spring sport like Soft Ball or Lacrosse that has daily practices and evening games? I'm sure many of your girls are gifted athletes in more than one sport.

Anonymous said...

Depends on the team. Most allow high school soccer. Largely take the fall off. maybe practice on Sundays. Winter possibly doable. I do not see a spring sport as tenable. The kid will not have time for homework as the spring is the big showcase or ECNl season and many of these teams are active 4 days/week. We realized too late with one of our kids that the pull coaches have with admissions was not as great as we had hoped. Grades limited some of her choices.

Anonymous said...

Winter sport has some conflict as the club soccer season starts after high school and you will play games in Nov, early Dec, and potentially travel over Christmas to NPL or Disney tourney in Florida. You will miss a bunch of HS sport during this time.

Spring is almost impossible to pull off. Not sure how a child has time to play HS sport 5-6 days a week and club soccer 4-5 days a week and STUDY. Not to mention the extreme wear and tear you are putting on the players body.

This is why you will see some kids step away from soccer as they would rather play high school sports, get a job, hang with friends more, etc.....

Anonymous said...

Idiots, she cant just leave. There are sit out rules!
Parents, to quit mid season, nice work.

Anonymous said...

Sit out rules only apply to NJYS which no one will play games under in the spring. No sit out issue under US Club

Anonymous said...

NJYS is useless . All top teams play under us club. And if she is not happy she can leave

Anonymous said...

US club will let you leave and play, they do not care. You are not setting the right example however. That is your choice and it is just my opinion.

Anonymous said...

I can't believe people still have an issue. Leave STA for what? Why do you care? Grow up once and for all. Don't assume every kid wants what you think is right. From reading what some of you have posted over the years you are crazy. Not every kid wants to jump from team to team or be on a team with a roster of 20+ kids. Some kids are very content with the solid training and development. Let's also consider the relationships with coaches. A number of them are heading off to coach solid college programs. I've been saying it for years. I feel sorry for your daughters.

Anonymous said...

4;12

I agree, however, many of these teams have mediocre coaches and cost premium dollars. A lot of these parents are finding this out right now.

STA coaching is a crap shoot at best.

The coach who had this age group was good but a maniac.( he was a big draw for the club) Most stayed because they were loyal.

Not many places to go as most of the teams here up North have their own coaching issues.

Your only choices for high level soccer is World, Match fit , Crush, PDA.,Stallions

World and PDA are probably best options at this age group. however, in order to get the playing time, you must be a piece that the coaches are looking for

Matchfit is having all kinds of issues.

Coached by DOC but team is unstable and they do not play the prettiest soccer. Also roster is huge.

Crush has very mediocre coaching and the club let this team drop years ago. Epitome of smash mouth over the top english soccer.

Stallions club although long standing, it lacks depth.

Coach is a proven commodity but has bad "bedside" manner. He can be difficult to play for.

There is no perfect world in the north.


You may be better going South and find a team like GFA-which has there own parental issues but at least they are a tight nit group.

or venture further North to NYSC.


Good luck to your daughter,

If you can find her a home that she likes and a quality coach, you have struck Gold.




















Anonymous said...

Based on the comment of the parents that wants to leave I think I know which team his daughter plays. There is only one team in NJ where the coach is afraid to play games.. If I am right leave as soon as possible and do not listen to your coach silly bs . You can leave whenever you want . Good luck

Anonymous said...

Sounds like STA and TSF are having trouble keeping players.

Anonymous said...

Surprised? Sta is finished and without proper coach. Tsf is a mediocre team with a coach that should work recreational.

Anonymous said...

STA is finished? Oh thanks for the heads up. I'll alert the club that some no life jackass is an expert on U14 soccer. Would love to show your family what you do all day. Wouldn't they be proud.

Anonymous said...

ok then tell me , at the end of last season the second team played the last few games of EDP, the coach left, half of the team is at Match Fit practices, the other half is around shopping different teams.
please tell me if all of these are no signs of a team in a hole about to fold.
before you insult people check the reality. this is my opinion based on facts that i see.

Anonymous said...

98% that visit this board know not to be swayed by you yahoos.

STA in a first place tie to get to a National in Indiana. I am sure they are working hard through the winter.

Anonymous said...

It's my experience that people only talk about other clubs because they are jealous they can't be on them. Who cares. Worry about your own kid. STA lost kids last year not this year. They had a lot of injuries in the fall but should be back to a full roster soon. Best of luck to all the teams in the spring.

Anonymous said...

It sounds like parents trying to earnestly warn other parents about the crappy coaching that a lot of these clubs try to get away with.

Anonymous said...

When the Manhattan tournament flights are coming out?

Anonymous said...

Thanks Andy your the best! !!

Anonymous said...

"Your only choices for high level soccer is World, Match fit , Crush, PDA.,Stallions"

LOL! I see you haven't been around long. You're leaving out the one team that has been at or near the top since the age group started play. I'll leave it to you to figure out.

Anonymous said...

oh talking about the north not the south.


Brick is ok bout would would not call the coaching great just adequate !

Anonymous said...

I guess the coaching at Brick was only great when you were there.

Anonymous said...

It must hurt when someone has a different opinion of a coach than yours!


We play up North- Most of these teams have adequate but not great coaching and training

Anonymous said...

come on man -----

we all know the Brick coach is a legend -----

in his on mind! ;p

Anonymous said...

Come on man...They've been successful for all these years for some reason. And its certainly not talent level, although it's much higher now.

Anonymous said...

for the sake of a good laugh...

"Copa number one in state before end of the year. You heard here first
October 8, 2014 at 1:16 PM"

What happened?

Anonymous said...

What happen?
They went to nationals twice....
You couldn't win in NJ.....LOL

Anonymous said...

Coppas struggling. Adjusting to a new coach. Can't win indoor. Not good!

Anonymous said...

Is it true that Wildcats is still taking girls from town teams?? I thought they wanted to get to academy level. Rostering over 20?

Anonymous said...

They did very well this season in the low bracket of EDP. Now they moved up. Don't see much winning this season. Probably back down next season like a roller coaster and the other town teams like NJX.

Anonymous said...

Wildcats should pick up the kids from STA, Copa and TSF That are looking for a new team.

Anonymous said...

Tsf kids shopping around these days. Saw one at our practices last week.mother told us more players want to leave. Guess coach is not helping either

Anonymous said...

in 3 months its over for the u14 girls,they will be done with soccer,only two teams left that matter after that.

Anonymous said...

1027-why not say where you are ?

Anonymous said...

Thats true - 2:44

Look at all the upper levels now and you only see 2 teams listed.

Anonymous said...



The word is out that Brick lost a couple of their best players to ECNL over the break ---

Is that rumor or is it fact? Would anyone care to elaborate on that question?

Anonymous said...

All the arguing over ECNL vs USYSA about to stop.
USSF announces girls Development academy. Age cutoffs by birth year.

http://equalizersoccer.com/2015/01/30/uswnt-youth-development-plans-academy-residency-ncaa-nwsl-training/#disqus_thread

Anonymous said...

great some more kids that have to learn how to play soccer

Anonymous said...

? What do you mean?

Anonymous said...

Say good bye to high school soccer.

Anonymous said...

TSF girl coming at our practice. Maybe more during the week. Not great players but a sign of trouble over there.

Anonymous said...

Guess playing in second division at this age is not helping over there.

Anonymous said...

"The word is out that Brick lost a couple of their best players to ECNL over the break"

Lost their leading scorer for sure, which will hurt. BUT, they've lost their leading scorer before and barely missed a beat. Someone will pick up the slack. That's what makes this team what it is.

Anonymous said...

Yep

Opportunity knocks for some players.

Anonymous said...

Just another brick in Wall.

Anonymous said...


Agreed............

But why is the Brick coach always on here commenting about his team.............

He should just ignore it.........

Anonymous said...

strong nit group....lol The clown calls and your top girl runs ...
just the first...sit by your phone your mia could be next...

Anonymous said...

I heard 3 to 4 players leaving. Ex Force players !

Anonymous said...

916 do tell where or else I call (another) fake

Anonymous said...

Brick kids going to MF?

Anonymous said...

Force girls did not make our team better any way.

Anonymous said...

they cant make PDA,so mf the only place to go roster up to 35....lol...what a joke!!!still not a top 10 team....

Anonymous said...

Nobody from Brick would make a mean spirited comment about any of their players, so don't pretend to be a Brick parent you classless idiot. You are a coward hiding behind the anonymous name tag.

Anonymous said...

Seriously…Having to experience this for the first time what is a parent supposed to do with their child who wants to get better. Play on a lower level team at U15 and hope they improve with less interested players or try and move to a higher level team and hope she improves surrounded by more interested ones. Also, when is the appropriate time to contact coaches to see if she can attend practices to try and find that team? Is it now? Or since they don’t really play in the fall can you do it over the summer? Just curious to hear from people that have experienced this and either learned by their mistakes or successes. I believe there are many parents that aren’t sure and are reaching out because they believe there is a small window of opportunity to improve their child’s situation and that makes this a silly time of year.

Anonymous said...

9:49 the time to reach out is now. Coaches are looking at kids every week. The sooner you make a move the more time your child has to adjust to the new team. If you are moving up in competition the speed of play will be something they need to adjust to. The longer you wait the harder it will be for them to break into a team and get significant playing time. Not much will happen on the fall. If you wait until then you are basically wasting another season. Keep in mind this needs to be your child's decision and not just yours. If she is not fully committed to mSking a change , leaving her friends , sacrificing playing time , changing positions and starting over than you could be setting her up for a rough time. Look at all of your options and make sure your child knows exactly what they are getting into.

Anonymous said...

Agreed. The time to reach out is now. Players schedules are usually more free now so it is easier for them to got check out a few teams and start to identify which teams you might want to play for.

Anonymous said...

There could be a major mix up with teams possibly going to birth year next year. Might be both ECNL and NPL. I think EDP has some birth year programming for boys to -no? 01's will be u14 again and 00 u15. Might want to ask some questions of the team your child is visiting to see if they expect to change their cutoffs next year. ECNL almost certainly will.

Anonymous said...

That should be a tremendous boost for some (Jan-July birth) players

Anonymous said...

Only the new girls development Academy system will use birth year for teams. This certainly dissolve ECnl. All other leagues will most likely stay in place as it is with the same August 1 to July 31 year for carding purposes

Anonymous said...

I see Holmdel talked their way back into the 1st division Central. Didn't they learn in the fall that they don't belong with the top teams?

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Anonymous said...

Funny to see the same person commenting on NJX being put back in the 1st division. If I'm not mistaken your team didn't do very well there last year either. So, you did well 2nd division now your in the 1st again. only time will tell. You really should just sign your name because everyone knows who you are. It's called NO life!!

Anonymous said...

Whats the point of having division, if you cry hard enough you get put were you want?
If you do well you move up if you dont you move down and have to re earn your spot.
Doesnt that make sense?
EDP doesnt look good by moving those teams back up. Total joke!!

Anonymous said...

How did TSF move back up to 1st division? They refused to play last game of year and our team was tied with them in points and beat them head to head so we should have been moved up but were left in the 2nd division. That's not right at all.

Anonymous said...

All this talk will be moot when the birth year mandate comes out from US club soccer this spring and all the teams will either be shaken up or playing "up"

Anonymous said...

8:44 not going to happen.

Only the new Academy League would do this and it will be amazing if this actually gets off the ground anytime soon.

Doubtful anything will change over the next few years.

Anonymous said...

Where can you get a list of the teams invited to the Bethesda friendly's?

Anonymous said...



My guess would be that TSF moved up because the bridgewater team more than likely asked to be kept in the 2nd division, so they had to replace them in 1st division and TSF has a strong relationship with the league. As for NJX And Stronghold, who know's, but who cares, just look out for your own team.

This year could be tough for a lot of teams, more will fold and the consolidation will continue, it is just a fact. Hopeful that it will work out for everyone.

Anonymous said...

Maybe some teams were happy to have NJX out - now have to deal with them again

Anonymous said...

EDP Central 1st Division lost a MD & PA team therefore Stronghold moved up & NJX moved back up. Whether you agree or not they are probably the best teams that would have played in the 2nd flight which is why they were most likely moved up. NJX isn't any different then Freehold who keeps staying in despite poor results so just worry about your own team. Its very sad that there is a Mom or Dad out there that puts down other peoples children, you should all be ashamed.

Anonymous said...

who is playing Manhattan, does anyone know where we can see accepted list? We will be there. thanks

Anonymous said...

Thanks for telling us you'll be there :)

I have heard accepted list could be this weekend but more likely early next week.

Check their website over the weekend.

Anonymous said...


so who are you? what team? if you are in?

Anonymous said...

No need to talk about the Manhattan tournament. Check the weather forecast. More snow to come and temps staying below freezing. Unless things warm up the week before this tournament is headed for the second consecutive cancelation. Silly hosting a tourney this time a year in the northeast.

Anonymous said...

Forecast is for 50s that week, though down to high 30s on Sat/Sun, 2/28-3/1

Wont be any snow

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Anonymous said...

"not for the weak minded"

That is such a funny statement.

I hope you don't talk to your daughter that way.


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Anonymous said...

Can you please remove post 543, that is a vulgar statement, at least have some class and do what person did before you and use stars.

Anonymous said...

At 10;30

This is 2:37.

I thought you might reply- I thought you might be one of those parents.


here is something to think about when you make those statements and this is going to kill you.


My daughter is a better player and scholar than your daughter. hands down no doubt.

She has already been selected as a National pool player by the USSF.

And she has skipped a grade and is doing advanced mathematics in school. Its pretty easy to verify if you know the national pool players in this area. And No she will not be playing in that tournament.













Anonymous said...

When will EDP and NPL be posting all of the college signings from this week. I found ECNL but nothing from the others.

Anonymous said...

nobody cares

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Anonymous said...

i know its called football,but is MF roster up to 60 yet?

Anonymous said...

@914


I know who that girl is- it has nothing to do with Slick.

Besides parent is talking about USSF (real deal) not ODP.(farce)

Anonymous said...

so your saying your daughter is on this list?

http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2014/05/27/09/52/140527-u14-gnt-portland-camp

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