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Thursday, May 26, 2016

Academy Soccer

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Anonymous said...

Nice!!! Way a hit the books CSA boys!!!

Anonymous said...

Bla bla bla csa,bla bla bla,cmon people,wake up

Anonymous said...

I believe the overall health of high level soccer for boys is very good. Whether you fancy one academy over another for the multitude of reasons is your choice. Looking forward to the new season beginning very soon. Good Luck to CSA, PDA , Red Bulls and TSF fielding a U12 Academy program

Anonymous said...

TSF has been trying for years to get academy status. They finally got it. US Soccer must not know therm to well. They are only interested in profit and playing favorites.

Anonymous said...

Whew! Glad TSF is on-board to take the haters' attention away from CSA for an afternoon.

Let me guess - there is still plenty of hate to go around....

Anonymous said...

At least CSA is new but what's TSF's excuse. All their best coaches have left.

Anonymous said...

So what if TSF has U12 academy team, World Class has a U14 academy team and what happens after that. They go back to playing club! I think that is such bull. And no, I do not have any kids on either club.

Anonymous said...

I agree with that. If US soccer wants a steady player development program for elite players (and how can you even identify an elite player at 12 yrs. old) why is a player in the program at 12, 13, or 14, then out of the program and back to playing club soccer.

Anonymous said...

CSA also has a problem after u14 academy because they will have kids wanting to be on their u16 academy team. They have Bergen u14 and Monmouth u14 and only one u16 team in Monmouth. No room for everyone.

Anonymous said...

Really not a problem- some of the Bergen U14's will come to Monmouth, some may go to PDA, RB, NYCFC, some play high school, etc etc. Bergen also now has U15 Pre-Academy for some boys. Competition at this age group is good- you also can DP some kids, some play at Private schools- it all works out. 1 year at a time- by this time next year- Monmouth will have 7 fields, futsal, tournaments- who knows maybe even a residency program- Thanks George

Anonymous said...

my son was at NJSA and NJCSA for years. in reading this blog, i see lots of understandable emotion, some fact and some hope. heres my take. 1)if your kid isn't good enough, then he won't be happy at an CSA...by that i mean, if he isn't the top 2-3 kids at age u14, you can pretty much guarantee he'll be cut when it really matters. 2)Until U16, it doesn't matter if you're playing Academy (unless you are enjoying it and developing). but if you're goal is College, or better, then you want to be in a RESPECTED academy at U16 to increase your chances of gaining a college coaches attention... thus at U16, players come out of the woodwork and make it very difficult/competitive to continue in the system. At that point, many things play a role in team selection...certainly POLITICS...but also, there are simply higher level players making the switch to Academy soccer and its more competitive. Bottom line...if your truly a quality player, you're likely to make the team. If you've been a nice player, but not an exceptional player (and you aren't on Altirs list), you won't make the team. So my advice, if you don't fall into any of the above criteria at younger ages, don't hold your breath and think CSA will be looking out for its loyal players who put up with years of BS and reward you with a spot on the Academy team. Not gonna happen. I also agree wth the posters noting that Altirs and CSA track record actually isn't very rewarding. I also think its important to note that several EDP teams place more kids in Colleges than NJCSA and CSA. There are many paths to succeed in this game. But first know what SUCCESS means to your player, then be realistic about the possibility of achieving it, and then choose the path with the end game in mind. If you're kid isn't gonna be a professional player, I think its very important to spend time enjoying the game and the experience. Time flies by and we should make sure that even Elite players enjoy the experience. Going pro?...OK sacrifice and more misery is acceptable price to pay for the "dream"... but be realistic...if you're kid isn't standing out on 90 percent of the high level competetions he's in, that likely wont change and maybe the Academy stress/lifestyle isn't for you...at ANY ACADEMY. As far as all the new facilities go...sure thats impressive.. but remember that Altirs is a business man...he isn't dong this entirely for love of the game...hes doing it to build a facility that professional teams come use as training grounds...for the USMNT to come and use as a training facility.. how does this get funded? by tons of well-meaning, hopeful parents paying tuition. Sure maybe a few kids will benefit as players...but don't think thats the goal.

Anonymous said...

My son has fun and loves soccer at CSA right now and that is all that matters.

Anonymous said...

August 9, 12:59 PM

That was a great comment.

Anonymous said...

Haven't been on here for a while. I can say that NJCSA is heading in the right direction - their new facilities and the hiring of their U18 coach are indications. I agree though with the comments above about one particular NJCSA left-over coach. The implications that he may be receiving "favors" from certain players should be investigated. He certainly seems to have blind allegiance to certain players - and has, at least in the case of one player, pulled the wool over the eyes of the coach of a major college program. But that will become apparent later and will cost the coach and NJCSA all credibility with a coach in a major conference.

Anonymous said...

The coach in question does personal training of players for side money. Obviously those players are given special treatment, that shouldn't be surprising. Now for the new U18 coach, he's done it for years. While he was in Florida he was brought up to do training for $$$. Now the guy who arranged the trainings and his friends are on the U16 team. You don't think the favoritism isn't going to happen going to happen. Just be aware of the situation so you aren't upset when the favoritism continues.

NJCSA is broken and nothing has changed. Fields can't fix the problems of favoritism.

Anonymous said...

Hey I read on the on top drawer soccer website that 4 players from PDA have decided to play high school instead of academy this year. They are all going back to play for scotch Plains. Is that true?

If that is true, that will be a big loss for the PDA U16 squad.

Anonymous said...

I don't know but do you really think 4 missing players from a roster of 30 would make a difference? That team didn't have great results last year.

Anonymous said...

GA needs to be careful down at NJCSA. He is investing a lot of money and it can go badly very quickly. It was a huge mistake naming TR's loyal foot soldier as director of coaching. All of the bloggers above are absolutely correct. There is something not right - favoritism is one thing but there is something else going on. I doubt the new U18 coach will stay past this year if he needs to work for the U16 coach.

Anonymous said...

so much hate by the old people on this site. My boys are loving CSA- peace

Anonymous said...

The old NJSA was a horrible organization that hurt and disappointed a lot of people. The new CSA is heading in the right direction buy still has skeletons in its closet.

Anonymous said...

Adding a "C" to the name dosen't change anything. They reward no development and parking the bus by making him doc. Then you have a parents running the tryouts from behind the scenes. Nothing has changed. New fields doesn't change anything.

Anonymous said...

Once again old people who are disgruntled. I will continue to look forward and not backwards. First scrimmage on Saturday for the 14's - let the excitement begin. Best of luck to all the folks enjoying soccer and looking to a very bright future.

Anonymous said...

"old people"???

You have no idea what you are talking about. Your oldest kid is a U14 and you are living thru him. Maybe you should respect your elders and heed their warnings.

Anonymous said...

No thanks, I will form my own opinion and watch the development of my sons in these formative exciting times. Fortunately I know what I need to know and am 100% correct. You enjoy your bashing and sorry that your kin did not shine for ya. Good luck

Anonymous said...

LOL! 100% correct? You know there are no guarantees in football. It may work out but it may all end in tears. I also thought things were great until my 12 yr. olds dreams were completely crushed in a very cruel way. Enjoy your journey!

Anonymous said...

He is 100% correct his son is enjoying his current time at CSA. That is all it is about. I doubt most of our kids will be pro players.

If the kids enjoy their time and the parents can somehow stomach a situation where they are not in control it is a win for all.

Anonymous said...

you're wrong when you say parents have no control. Some have a lot of control. If you don't realize that yet, you soon will. Like everything else in life, it's who you know and money talks.

Anonymous said...

He's wrong in thinking his son is developing. Who says he's developing...you?....NJCSA?

Let's just say he's having fun. Like any other kid in a town club team can say he's having fun.

The reality is NJCSA is the Tinton Fall, Holmdel, Colts Neck, and several other shore towns club team that gives there parents a sense of pride to say their kid plays for an academy. The might have paid the USSDA fees to be called an academy. Most kids at NJCSA don't receive the ball on the proper foot, they don't open up correctly, they can only use their dominate foot, etc. There is nothing wrong with that, the kid is having fun but don't think you can just say your kid is developing and make 100% claims and think you are fooling anyone but yourself. NJCSA doesn't develop players...they take parents money. Keep your eyes closed, parent influence is all over that club. You are probably one of them. In fact, I'll claim I'm 100% correct, LOL.

Anonymous said...

You are correct on the "club team" mock as long as the best kids go up to PDA and RB. If that changes....

Not convinced that the current set of CSA-M coaches will be poor developers. Agree that the prior set were. Agree that the level of player going to CSA-M is not as good as PDA, RB, so you will see more of the technical errors you mentioned.

Not much pride when you lose to other local club teams and by double digits to other academies. No one brags about that, so this view of the pompous, idiot NJCSA parent is misguided. Lack of options produce questionable decisions in hindsight.

The only local Monmouth County kids I know that are up at PDA, RB are from wealthy families. Great they can have mom and dad drop everything for their soccer hobby. The other, not so fortunate, families need to rely on the local clubs, and NJCSA/CSA-M always showed/shows the most "promise." All parents in the know are frustrated by the history, but are you better off at Tinton Falls, Colts Neck, Ocean, etc.? Not clubs legendary for their development...

Anonymous said...

So what are the predictions and rumors for the upcoming academy season. Anybody has anything?

Anonymous said...

As to Academy vs top level EDP, I've come full circle. My boys have done both. I pulled my kids from top level EDP, went to non-MLS Academy, and then went back. Here is what I've learned. Unless your son is one of the top 3-4 kids on an Academy roster and/or has some kind of "in", he's not going to get enough game minutes. 10 games in Fall and Spring plus two showcases with limited substitutions that do not match up with college rules (and most kids want to play in college - national team level kids are a minuscule percentage of Academy kids) Take a roster of 24-26 (if you include DPs) and do the math- your son is looking at 50% playing time in not so many games if he is a solid player on the roster. Not enough game minutes is the draw back. On the other hand, the four nights a week of Academy training is extremely beneficial. My kids are now at a top flight EDP club. While the rosters are also 22-24, the boys will play in at least 3 times as many games -- with more game minutes per game due to the substitution rules -- and play in the top bracket of good showcases where they will be seen by college coaches (and none of these are in Texas in Summer- who scheduled that? Haha). The level of play is comparable enough to work (some of the players are more athletic, but a bit less technical, than the Academy roster). In fact, I think their birth year EDP teams could beat their prior academy teams 3-4 out of 10 times, maybe more. The interesting thing to me is that these scrimmages never happen-- I think they would be beneficial for all involved (more game type minutes for Academy kids, Club kids confronted with a team that is deeper technically).

Anonymous said...

Btw. My math was wrong (forgot to add the Academy Spring games) .. It's roughly twice as many games with top EDP, not three times....

Anonymous said...

August 27, 9:34

Listen your math is way off, 3 or 4 players, come on. There are 11 starters plus 2 to 4 kids that always come off the bench. If you are one of the top 14 players you will definitely get some looks (just see how many kids have committed to college from each academy team). I was at an regular season academy game last spring and there were at least 7 college coaches watching the game, some were from very good soccer schools. I am sorry to say, but you are not going to get that at a regular season EDP game and by saying that, I am not trying to put EDP down, just stating the facts.

Also academy is not for everybody, no every family can make 3/4 days a week practice, and all the long east coast travel. Plus if your kid is playing academy he needs to stand out (have at least over 55% start percentage, be one of the 14), because you are competing against, National team players,US training center players, Coaches' favorites and etc...

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