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Monday, August 1, 2016

U14 Girls Youth Soccer in Region 1


Across the 12 states of U.S. Youth Soccer Region 1, there are some impressive club teams who are a lot of fun to watch.


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Anonymous said...

1:57 FC Bucks coaches are not changing. Just checked their ....... website.

Anonymous said...

Another up and coming top-tier club would be FC Copa. Not good in this age group, but their style of play really appeals to colleges and other high levels organizations. Just a thought.

Anonymous said...

HA FC COPA up north ok FC COPA setting up shop in SJ will fall flat alike PDA South as parents will realize the North Branch have the bread and butter teams of the club. When will parents realize this is a business just like SJEB/Rush Merger companies occasionally merge to benefit overall customers.

Anonymous said...

Copa all about the $$$,the best you will get there is nj D3 schools,you can save your money and get D3 from any town team

Anonymous said...

Agree COPA is $$$ if your going to spend that much just head to PDA if you feel your daughter has the quality to play on there.

Anonymous said...

Rush/SJEB merger done to get DA. They were told to do this in order to get DA. No more Rage Renegades, sad to see them go. Coach also replaced by paid coaches who likely aren't as qualified.

Anonymous said...

"Copa all about the $$$,the best you will get there is nj D3 schools,you can save your money and get D3 from any town team"

Idiotic posts like this from parents who think their daughter will go play professionally is what really makes me laugh. Stop spouting opinions and look at the facts, Copa sends more kids D1 than they do D3. Look at their girls teams u15 and up. Playing in top flights at tournaments like Jeff Cup and CASL showcase, and beating ECNL teams that have national level players on the roster. They teach their players to play properly at a young age, not worrying about wins, losses, rankings, anything like that. Knowing that these players will grow and and learn to play soccer the right way. As for Copa South, I agree on that, it seems like a looming disaster.

Anonymous said...

203 I'm calling bull on the DA stuff every club is trying it on the girls side. They merged to cut overall cost down for both clubs like 1100pm said it's a business. What blows me away why not merge the Hamilton Rush club and Southern Rush club meet in the middle somewhere? What will happen to Hamilton Rush now will they end up merging with someone soon.

Anonymous said...

215 many here are referring to COPA South as I think Copa North is well handled.

Anonymous said...

youth soccer is all business. however, If the merger was done to keep cost down, they would have merged the entire club. The academy's will continue to operate individually but the older teams will have more opportunity for showcase tournaments etc. don't see how that is a bad thing for the players. seems like both clubs are looking out for the players in the long run which i respect. it's the nut job parents that are the issue regardless of what club you are from, everyone has them.

Anonymous said...

> Strong teams in the North/Central
Lots of great options, but the best way is to go for what clubs call "age group training" or just call a coach and go to practice. If your kid is athletic and skilled, any team will take her. Few warnings though:
- Arsenal is moving the team to 2002 bracket, they are looking for exceptional players
- SDFC is skin deep only: only B team at U14, no B team in U13, B team in U12 is no better than a town travel team. SDFC is famous for playing 70 games a year, and with that type of preparation, they should not be losing 5:0 to PDA. My sense is that their "2003" team will rock, and the 2004/2002 will require skillful recruiting to rebound.

> How do I get into NTC/ID2.
You have to play for ECNL and be observed/invited OR you have to play for PDP and be recommended by DOC of club/PDP. ID2 invites for 2002 are already done, 2003 will be invited in the fall.

Anonymous said...

215pm
RA thanks for your reply,but read your commitment list 95%D3 schools,dont try to fool the people

Anonymous said...

5:50
Concerning id2. Invites have gone out for spring but fall id2 is for 02 and will be inclusive of the very top 03. Most likely from ecnl clubs. Probably 5/50 id2 girls. Invites seem to go out 3-4 weeks before camp.

"the fall 2016 id2 Training Camps will also extend to top girls born in 2003."

I would be surprised if its much more than a handful of girls.

Anonymous said...

My daughter was at copa for 1 year,the worst experience for a young soccer player you thing about.now at a club where the player matters,just stay away.

Anonymous said...

Do you have to tell your coach if you are going to a try out at another club? Our club has said we must tell them if we are going to other try outs. They said it is a small community and they will find out from the coaches at other clubs when they "hang out" together. Can you share thoughts, opinions, experiences on this topic?

Anonymous said...

Unless your club is willing to sign an agreement guaranteeing a roster position at a certain level prior to tryouts, then it is entirely inappropriate to discourage tryouts at other clubs. It makes perfect sense to have a backup plan in case a player doesn't make the cut at her club of choice. It also makes sense to make the current coach aware of such a plan as a matter of courtesy. Of course, its a vindictive world, and some clubs expect loyalty to be a one way street. So, there is always a risk that trying out at other clubs, even if just as a backup plan, will be seen as disloyalty and result in the player being cut. Unfortunately, its a cruel world and life lessons start early. My daughter didn't make the "A" team as a U9, but she worked hard, performed well on the "B" team, and finally earned a starting position on the "A". However, BYC may squeeze her out of that starting role given the competition within the club an age group below and above her. I have encouraged her to try-out with other clubs in order to have a backup plan, but she wants nothing to do with other clubs. I don't see her accepting a "B" team offer if she doesn't make the "A" team with her current club, so come May she may find herself without a team if she gets squeezed out by the BYC. If that happens, I suppose its a lesson learned for her. However, do not tolerate a club that discourages a player from keeping options open. A good club should support the player.

Anonymous said...

If you like your club, but are concerned about playing time, then you should notify your coach that you will be trying out at other clubs. If they are concerned about losing your daughter, then they would make the effort to try and keep her.

Some clubs will try to strong arm you into being fearful of going anywhere else. That is not the club I would want to be at. It is always best to be honest about your plans, but be prepared move on. You would not want your current club to find out you've been sneaking around to other tryouts, in which case your daughter will either be cut or relegated to lower teams.

I know of at least two PAE clubs that have dropped kids because their older siblings left to play elsewhere.

Be honest. Don't burn bridges. It's more important to get playing time and develop than it is to be on a team that focuses on winning.

Anonymous said...

This is my daughter's first year playing club soccer and she made the C team last May. She plays CM and rarely comes out of the game. She has great size and is very athletic, but needs to work on her skills. She has been guest playing and attending some practices on the A team. She plays more defense and wing and gets less minutes on that team. So as far as skill development goes (barring other factors), would it be better to stay on the C team if she makes the A team?

Anonymous said...

Is B-team not an option? What does your daughter want?

Anonymous said...

Train as high as you can, but play where the minutes are.
If you can swing time playing for both teams, go for it.

Anonymous said...

1128 If she training and competing with A team she needs to stay there and win minutes for playing time. She will not develop the game speed(quacking with and without the ball) with the C team. I assuming since your in this blog she is going U14 or 15 so its time to give the A squad a shot.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the input. The C team is new to the club and it turns out that C has better coaching and players than the B team. My daughter likes both teams and coaches (A and C). She was playing rec last year at this time and plays a little tentative at midfield on the A team. She will need to develop confidence this spring in order to play midfield on the A team next year. My fear is she only play defense on the A team and does not give herself the chance to develop at midfield when she easily has the size and speed to play there. We will have this discussion with the coaches when the time comes. Oh, the A team is a little more about winning than the C team. I'm sure things will work out fine, and again thanks for the feedback.

Anonymous said...

Developing as a defender will help her midfield game

Anonymous said...

5:50.

I just did a little research. It looks like even in glendale last month there were some 03 players. It seems like at all these camps there are about 10-20% under age players.

But it is still most definitely an 02 cycle through 2016.

Anonymous said...

Alright here is some truth. These "clubs", "academies" are not the be all end all. The TMs, MOs, and MFs are not the almighty. If you have your daughter playing at a decent team and do the marketing and research you can get them to the next level. These "professional trainers" are not so professional. They care about marketing their club with the 1% of the 1%. Remember this is their job not their calling. We all need to wise up and stop listening to the accents and reading their websites. I really like some of the girls they exploit and appreciate their talent, I really do. But for the rest of our daughters we need to relax and realize they will not earn a living playing soccer. Stop letting them ruin the best years of our kids lives. This year is especially trying with the DA looming and age year change. Nobody has thought about the girls in all of this. US Soccer only cares about the chosen few. I have said what I needed to say and I hope my daughter enjoys the next three years playing in high school and for her club. Its going to be different. She will have different teammates I am sure. but hopefully its everything she dreamed and I dreamed it would be. Just a mothers wish !

Anonymous said...

MFA is nothing but lies. I took my daughter to a few open trainings. Gave them the benefit of the doubt so went back twice. What a waste of time. Coach tells me your daughter can have a spot since a few key players left. Who says that without seeing her play... Run while you can!

Anonymous said...

If she went to trainings they saw her play. You know what is a much bigger 100X problem than clubs like MFA, soccer parents like you. Post above had some good points. Stop looking at these clubs like they are the NY Yankees. Most are run by volunteers or guys and gals with good hearts trying to scratch out a living. They don't claim to be the greatest coach ever. I am a parent who has had 3 kids at different clubs including the big ones.

Anonymous said...

@458 don't know what happened. U went to open training and your kid was offered a spot. Isn't that how it goes? (Ps this is a rhetorical question - but I'm not sure what else you wanted?)

Anonymous said...

My point being.. The training was awful.. Coach wasn't even there. All the girls did was scrimmage. Sorry for the confusion. I also have 2 kids in different clubs.

Anonymous said...

@4:58 I totally understand they'll take anyone whose willing to pay... He doesn't care about this age.

Anonymous said...

@458. Your post didn't say that at all. Yes they are apparently having some issues. But this age group still beat pda recently both at npl and preecnl lately. So they are doing something right

Anonymous said...

Training with the U14 ECNL team looks like it's making the U13 team better. Avoid the noise, the move of the ECNL teams and all the NPL teams to Denville is hard on a lot of families. That is understandable but I wish people would just say that instead of slamming the staff, who IMO are a solid group.

Anonymous said...

2 coaches coaching all those ECNL teams is a problem. Yes, moving to Denivile everyone knew it was coming. They will lose most of the girls. That's probably why they will take anyone at this point. Lots of changes everywhere..

Anonymous said...

@3:12 most of the u13 are not returning to MFA in the fall.. Very short spring.

Anonymous said...

@402. So ur saying my kid has a chance! Lol. (Que dumb and dumber music)
Looks like there will be a lot of spots and tryouts are Monday.

Anonymous said...

Heard MFA had a parent's meeting with Mercer U-12 team and told them all ECNL practices would be up north at Morris Catholic. What did they tell the U-13 Pre ECNL team in their parent meeting?

Anonymous said...

Same thing.

Anonymous said...

No need for tryouts. They will take everyone.

Anonymous said...

That has beem communicated ECNL and NE NPL are in Denville. They could not have been more clear. The Mercer teams are EDP. Some talented kids there, but that's a tough ride to practice.

Anonymous said...

The 2003 kids are in a good spot at MFA, if they are willing to make the trip. 2002, are not is as good a spot because the player pool at MFA that come from the North is deep and talented.

Anonymous said...

Agree... He doesn't care much about the younger girls.

Anonymous said...

This past weekend in the RCL:

Girls U13 Elite Red

NORDIC SC PREMIER (no report – snowed out?)
KINGS FC PREMIER

Girls U13 Elite White

0 – ARUNDEL PUMAS
3 – SDFC RAGE

1 – NEW JERSEY RUSH GREY
0 – CENTURY V PGH FC GOLD

0 – VINCENT UNITED INTEGRITY
3 – SDFC RAGE

0 – VINCENT UNITED INTEGRITY
1 – CENTURY V PGH FC GOLD

Girls U13 Elite Blue

0 – EMPIRE UNITED BUFFALO BLUE
2 – GREATER BINGHAMTON UNITED RED

Girls U13 Elite Gray

0 – PWSI COURAGE RED
0 – LEE MOUNT VERNON PATRIOTS RED

The season is still young in the northern tier Red Division. It still looks to be a showdown between North United and Northern Steel out west in the Blue Division. They meet this Sunday, 4/10. Rush Grey gives SDFC Rage a helping hand in the White Division by taking one from Century. The White Division is now SDFC’s to lose. Southwestern is the only team left with a chance to catch SDFC, and to do so, it must win all three of its remaining games and Century must beat SDFC on 4/16. Southwestern’s next hurdle is Herndon this Wednesday, 4/6. All games remaining in the Gray Division are for pride as HMMS has already clinched. The RCL Semi-Final and Final are scheduled for 5/7 and 5/8 at Kirkwood.

Anonymous said...

Any predictions on the PDA tournament this coming weekend?

Anonymous said...

1200 - PDA tournament prediction:

Red
FC Stars v. Rush Blue > FC Stars

White
PDA Shore v. PDA Nova > PDA Nova

Blue
PDA North v. FSA > FSA

Gold
Twin County v. Rush Grey > Rush Grey

Platinum
LVU v. Alleycats > Alleycats

Anonymous said...

Rage best player won't be there, different team without her.

I would think Pda will/may have one or two missing, but they are much deep team and shouldn't matter as much.

You know you picked the stars npl team, right?

Any chance you want to revisit these picks?

Anonymous said...

153 and how do you know all this inside scoop?

Anonymous said...

1:35 If FC Stars NPL is the team in Red Group A, then I will amend to give the group to PDA Galaxy, with the note that PDA is homering the group to place FC Stars NPL that high. However, I will still give the flight to Rush Blue. I am sure that there are differing opinions as to who the best Rush Blue player is, but when under pressure or stress, the team can sometimes do better with a change to its offense. Amended pick:

PDA Galaxy v. Rush Blue > Rush Blue

Plus, placing Rush Blue to take on Pipeline yet again is just wrong. Pipeline would be my second pick to advance out of Group B. Pipeline is a much improved team over what PDA saw last year and it would be interesting to see what the result would be if they played each other.

Anonymous said...

Just like Jeff Cup there will be a surprise winner at PDA Tournament which I think will be NEFC, but like many have said it doesn't matter because no GS points are awarded.

Anonymous said...

2:17 - I believe 1:53 may be making a reference to the id2 Training Camp, April 7-10, 2016, at WRAL Soccer Center, Raleigh, N.C.

Anonymous said...

229 sounds like a rush blue parent that didn't know their teammate would be missing, and I agree that I wouldn't want to play pipeline again if I were you. Hey, but that's what you get when you play 15 tournaments a year. You think PDA is counting how many times you played them or cares.

Anonymous said...

In other news, initial results from the first round of PA State Cup:

FC Revolution Rowdies,3
Montgomery United, 0

YMS Tempo, 3
Penn Legacy Black, 0

LVU Elite, 2
FC York Elite, 0

First round games continue next weekend.

Anonymous said...

The fact that Arsenal Maximus is staying together is mind boggling to me. What are the 03s thinking making such a big error. If your ever going to look for a different team or put yourself in a good atmosphere, it would be these coming tryouts since the BY move is so big. Maximus "gets by" even now. They are no where near the best team in Nj, yes they have beat some good teams but who hasn't? TSF, Arsenal B team, Freehold, Crush have even beat good teams at one point in their seasons. All this tells about the parents on this team is they think their daughter is above and beyond their age group. Maximus has NO teams from u14 and up expect a northern counties teams. They have NO teams u13 and below and their second team (Arsenal u13) are not good at all. If you can't even compete in the top 5 of the region at u13, what in the world do you think your going to do with all the best u14 players moving down? I'm surprised these 03 parents are not looking elsewhere.. Or are they?

It gets to a point at u14 and up you can't only look at the coach, but the club. Look at the older teams and what they have done. How many kids are in college. What level are they at. What are the other coaches ability like? These parents are following a coach who has no background with other teams, have no other teams to pull from.. It's a sinking ship. Can't wait to see this come 02. STA, SDFC, TSF, Crush, Stallions, World class, Cedar Stars are all teams in a 10 mile radius of Maximus and all have great u13/14 teams. Make the right decision Maximus parents. Your team is not good

Anonymous said...

So it sounds like rush blue has a kid going to id2. Any pda galaxy going? Any match fit u13? Anyone else? I think a few pda u14 and sta u14are going.

Anonymous said...

Rush and Galaxy will be strong, but Pipeline has been coming on strong the last half a year. It should be a fun tournament. It will be an interesting match up of varying playing styles. Rush is for sure a counter attacking super-athletic team and Galaxy is a more possession oriented

Anonymous said...

No MFA?

Anonymous said...

5:10 sounds like your kid didnt make the team. Very personal attack.

So your comment about 02 strength sdfc will be very strong 03 weak 02. Crush will not be great at 02. Stallions has no current 02. Tsf cant play soccer.

Sta will be strong to very strong.

My kids team played arsenal beat them last year got crushed by them this year.

They are a lot better now. A potent offense.

As for playing up its a question of what comes quicker. Getting a new group to gel together more quickly than the tightening age gap. Yes so they are going to play up but its more akin to playing up a half year. Its ok to challenge kids. really comes down to how deep your talent pool is. With the exception of pda i think many will struggle with the change. Do i think maximus will be the best 02 team no? But i bet they will be better than many.

My guess is they will be 4-7 in nj.

But your comments sound very personal and uninformed.

Anonymous said...


US Soccer just sucks right now. Plain and simple. i'm so suprised that there hasn't been more discussion up here about their unfair treatment of the USWNT and their compensation. The USWNT is probably the most recognized sports team in the world, easily the most important american team at any time other than maybe the dreamteam with michael jordan. I don't want my daughter playing professional though I'm sure in her head, she'd love to do so. It's disgusting that someone pays a lesser performing male more than a way outperforming female.
Then add in the absolutely stupidity of this age change, the sillyness of detraining kids with headers, and the attempts to have the girls mirror the failing mens academy system when a highly successful ECNL system already exists.

US Soccer is a joke.

Anonymous said...

Can anyone please tell me the comparison in club fees from the top NJ clubs like PDA, STA, SDFC, NJ Crush, TSF etc compared to what I pay currently in town travel.

Anonymous said...

1022 - agree 100 percent. I just hope enough other people agree. The only positive here will be that ecnl will have to change for the better. They are far from perfect.

Anonymous said...

1024, best guess, all those programs that go three sessions per week in fall winter and spring, with professional coaches are probably 2800 to 3000 including apparel but not including your costs to travel to tournaments (hotels, food, gas). with your all-in for tournament travel probably more towards 4500 to 5000. Hotels are $150 or so per night x 1 or 2 nights x 3 or 4 tournaments, plus food plus fuel.
makes a quality town travel program seem pretty attractive if you can add in supplemental training .
aint cheap. Over 8 years, probably amounts to 2 years of college tuition.

Anonymous said...

1048 your right on! People seem to forget that the amount of money spent can add up and equate to other things, but the experience is also the factor. So to those that have gone through it with older siblings what is the average % of college money does middle of pack player truly get. I'm sure the top 100 players in a region are full rides but what about the 101 to 250. Can anyone chime in on your experience ECNL or Non-ECNL.

Anonymous said...

What US soccer does or does not do is completely out of the control of any youth soccer customer so they cannot waste too much too worrying about it. They are in search of the best soccer experience they can find and afford for their player and there are some choices to wade through.

Hopefully the legal system will do its job and force compliance with the equal pay for equal work law.

Anonymous said...


Our practices have been chopped up with girls trying out for for other teams, not at practice. its almost like the entire process so far is about coping with this reshuffling. I don't blame them and we've gone to a few as well. My husband spoke to our coach, looked him in the eyes, asked what he thinks, he tells us sincerely what he thinks will transpire, but it offers so little clarity. Our 2002s on the U13 are strong, the 2002s on the U14 are not at that the same level. Good but lesser. There is talk about new bodies coming in, who really knows. The 2003 parents are just as unsure as the same exists with the U12 girls. We scrimmage them now and then. Nice kids, but they are a year behind any way you slice it. Everyone is scratching our heads and guessing how this will shake out. Who will be the coaches, what girls will comprise the team, what the training schedule will look like, how many tournaments they do or don't do, which tournaments? summer select schedules, etc. how long would it take for the girls to figure out how to play with one another if you believe team unity adds to the quality on the field. The biggest is who will get the GotSoccer points. Its not insignificant as those points help seed you in tournaments let alone get you entry into the prestigious tournaments that offer showcasing opportunities. Seriously, how the heck are clubs going to figure out the points and which squad gets which squads previous points totals? YOu can't say that points going into U15 or u14 don't matter. Speaking to friends at other clubs and the coaches at the tryouts we've attended, it seems most are in the same boat. This whole thing seems just so unnecessary. After all, didn't creating the Girls DA solve the issue of targeting and identifying and segregating the best of the best of the best??

10000+ in agreement, US Soccer sucks for paying the women less than men! and screwing up a great soccer landscape for every kid in the country, not just the top tier like the kids of parents reading this site.

Anonymous said...

I dont follow your argument on points. Why wouldn't the team just continue with the points they have after the season end? do points reset to zero after each season?



Anonymous said...

Yes but is the current U13 team the U14 team or the U15 team next fall? Half the players go to one age and half go to the other. Maybe more than half.

Anonymous said...

We were told that next year's 2003 team will have this year's u13 team's points, the 2002 team will have the current u14 team's points. Has anyone else heard that?

Anonymous said...

1:27.

I think he is referring to the following scenario.

U14 2000 pts
U13 15000 pts
U12 3500 pts

02 is u14 and u 13. Lets say you choose to assign the points there. So 15000 to that team.
03 is u13 and u12. They would then use the u12 points or 3500.

So 03s on current u13 team would effectively lose those points.

Anonymous said...

5:10 haha.

There are clubs that need depth to survive and there are teams that recruit well. Arsenal Maximus program can recruit very well (Region 1 players, id2 players, RTC players). They train hard and play well. They certainly have a core 2002 group that belongs in the 2002, and their 2003 team mates are just as strong. They will do well, they have played up in the past.

If they sucked, WC or Stallions wouldn't be begging them to join.

Anonymous said...

@1:48 that is what we were told, I think the assumption (though not true in many instances) is that all teams are about equally as strong points wise so no one is losing points. But if you have one strong team in the middle of two weaker teams the younger players on that midlle strong team do lose their points. It's not perfect but I think it is better than wiping out all points and just starting everyone at zero.

So here is what we were told-
U12 team (03/04) with 15,000 points
U13 team (02/03) with 18,000 points
U14 team (01/02) with 10,000 points

Fall 2016-
U13 team (04)- 15,000 points
U14 team (03)- 18,000 points
U15 team (02)- 10,000 points

Is it really any different than what is going on with region 1 play? the winners of the current u13 region 1 season, would qualify to play something (champions league?) next year- so will it be the 03 or 02 team who gets to play? I thought I read on here that it will go to the 02 team. Correct me if I am mistaken.

Anonymous said...

Ha - What are the Maximus girls going to do when 3/4 of their mates go to high school the following year? I think these parents know this program has one year left and they are looking now.

Anonymous said...

2:38 - 2002 birth year will be U15 next year and 2003 birth year will be U14 next year.

Current U13 is 02/03 mix. Of that mix, the 02s become U15 and the 03s become U14 next year.

Under current rules, the RCL champion and runner-up receive berths in the NL for the next season. So, without BYC, the current U13 teams would be competing for U14 NL slots next year.

However, I have heard, like you have, that because of BYC, U13 teams are effectively competing for U15 NL slots because of where the 02s will be next year.

But, also under current rules, there is a requirement that a NL team must have no less than 9 players on its roster that were on the roster of the qualifying team. Depending on a team’s current birth year distribution between 02s and 03s, there might not be 9 players left on a roster from a qualifying team.

Also, if current U13s are competing for U15 NL slots, how will all of the U14 NL slots be filled next year when the current U12s are not competing in RCL, but only state and regional cups.

It becomes obvious, that new NL rules will need to be established to accommodate the BYC.

Anonymous said...

3:23 :

What is your issue/fixation with maximus Mate?

What did they do to you? If they have issues with high school you would guess that they are well aware. Is the team 50/50 7th and 8th?

I just dont understand why you keep attacking that team.


Anonymous said...

Is it the same maximus thats eanked #5 in nj and 22nd in the country. They must be terrible with rankings like that.

Anonymous said...


Tons of respect and pride to the fine ladies on our USWNT!! Yeah, Abby screwed up but she didn't murder anyone. Yet, as a group, they basically decided to go head on against their employer, top of the pyramid for what they think is right. Its not their belief, its everyone's belief that they should no way be earning so much less than the men! You go girls! I think everyone stands behind you gals!

Anonymous said...

I think this team is more like number two in the state, they are better than sta and SDFC. I also think they are more like number 5 in the country, got soccer isn't always perfect.

Anonymous said...

Which teams majorities are 02 and which ones 03.

I heard sdfc and crush u13 will
Be mostly 03.

Anonymous said...

Looking at maximus recent results they just beat STA and wallopped SUSA who finished #2 f2 jeff cup. And maximus won their jeff cup flight.

Anonymous said...

@4:02 I do not understand what you are saying. This year's u13 teams are a combination of 02 birthdays from August-December and 03 birthdays from January through July (or later if there are girls playing up). u13 next year will be 2004 only, not 2003. It is not a choice.

Anonymous said...

@4:19

Im asking what the breakdown of different teams u13 are or you can say where the talent lies.

So SDFC Rage will play 03 and crush most talent i think is 03.



Anonymous said...

President Obama should be sitting down the heads of US Soccer. Had the girls to the white house, claimed "bad ass", something NOONE has ever said about the USMNT. And yet his government subsidizes and funds a systematic discriminatory practice of paying women less than men for the same, or better job. You can read so many interesting articles on the topic including some that talk about boycotting the men, etc. US Soccer should solve the problem, pay women properly rather than their goofy defense of a crappy position.

Anonymous said...

Now I understand @4:42. I do not know the breakdowns of those specific teams, but I would assume that around half are 02 so plenty of room for new players to make either team. I expect that to be the case almost everywhere and that clubs will be actively recruiting from outside to find 2003 girls from u13 teams as opposed to just moving up the 2003s from the u12 teams because the current u13 2003's have been playing at a more competitive level than the u12 2003s.

Anonymous said...


Next year will be a starting fresh situation for everyone, SDFC, Crush, PDA, Maximus, STA, the list goes on, noone is exempt whether you are staying together or playing up. Each has major risks and major rewards. Time will tell.

Anonymous said...

Sorry i meant other teams besides sdfc and crush. Looking to do some tryouts.

Anonymous said...

3:23
only WC and Stallions trolls who wanted to take over Maximus' talent would try to convince parents to split.

Anonymous said...

3:23 please enlighten us with what you think the maximus girls should do? You must be a much better coach than the one they have the way you attack them on this site.

Wc and stallions both garbage in u13 u14. And classless if thats the case.

Anonymous said...

There is a great video that the US Women put out regarding this lawsuit and what its truly about. great great video. ill see if i can get the hyperlink. i accessed it through the NWSL supporters site.

And in the world of gross acts, someone said that US Soccer sent a subtle message that if they adjusted pay, they'd be forced to save monies elsewhere which could include pulling the financial support of the NSWL. Whoa thats low!!

Anonymous said...

If true that they threatened their support of NWSL if they have to match pay, they should be relieved of their jobs immediately, terminated and sent packing. If we all wanted to do something , we should find who we petition or how to support the action brought by the women. I think we all probably have huge affection for that team and can personalize their struggles since it very well could be someone's daughter one day.

Anonymous said...

Abby messed up something awful. Who in their right mind tells the cops about their using cocaine and weed a decade earlier if you're pulled over for a DUI? the DUI is wreckless , but blabbing to the cops is just stupid. She muddied up the USWNT's suit for equal pay a bit.

Anonymous said...

Maximus has an excellent trainer and a very good team. The issue with them is that they only play to win. The manager claims it is about development but it is really for the development of the top 11 or 12 players. They have no problem sitting girls for an entire game or only playing them 5-10 minutes a game, which happens more often then not. That is not development of all the players as they claim when they recruit. If your daughter is very strong and can get playing time, it's a great place. If she will be the 13th or higher player, then accept she will not see much of the field during games. At this age, most teams aren't all about winning, they are. As long as you know that and accept it, then go for it.

Anonymous said...

Please read article. Another simple analogy would be a law firm. Let's say two senior partners, one a male and one a female didn't have equal pay. Let's say the female partner billed 1.5million and the male partner billed 500k. Should the male partner make equal pay? NO.

Folks, there is something called revenue and for what it's worth, the men's side has much more coming it's way. This is just simple economics, nothing else.

http://www.businessinsider.com/womens-small-soccer-salaries-are-fair-2015-7

Anonymous said...

They did not do equal work in that scenario. It is equal pay for equal work for the same employer.

Anonymous said...

Did I hear Maximus #2 in NJ? Thanks mommy or daddy for that. Congrats on the 4th flight in Jeff cup. Glad you drove 7 hours to play a team that is 30 minutes from your home. The only thing they have won within NJ is indoor state cup where 2-3 good teams even attend, and a small sided state cup. When you actually beat through a good amount of NJ teams, when you win your league, when you win something that is not in the 3-5 bracket, then speak up. Your a good team, nothing else. There are 15 "good" trams at the u13 age group, there are 3 very good teams, unfortunately you aren't one of them. Your 03s who are remaining on the team for next year are nut jobs. Clueless. You will have a very big wake up call. Good luck ;-)

Anonymous said...

A partner in a law firm is also not an employee. They are a partner.

Anonymous said...

so what about about female golfers, if they win 5 tour events a year, should they make the same as a male who wins 5 tournaments a year?
What about two prostitutes, one is hot and one is not. Should they be paid equally for the same amount of work? why does the ceo of Jnj make more than the ceo toysrus? I'm sure they both work equally as hard.

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Anonymous said...

10:39. Since you brought it up. Rankings and tiers.

In nj two national level teams

Pda galaxy
Rush blue

Next tier very good teams

Sdfc
Pda south
Maximus
Rush grey
STa.

Next tier good teams
Cherry hill
Pda crew

Next tier decent teams
Pda shore wave
Crush npl
Tsf
Crush heat
Sjeb

Anonymous said...

I'm not sure there is any set of criteria that i've read from financial figures, to estimate of goodwill, to being the marquee sports team that suggest the women should be paid 1/4 of what the men earn. There is only one justification, that these are women, that many years ago their only place was in the kitcken, that while we enjoy having them in the work place, they can not be taken seriously, and can not really contribute very much. There is no way anyone knowledgeable about soccer would ever elect to watch the women's game versus the men's game. It doesnt matter that the men generated a loss while the women's earned a 7$mil profit. it doesn't matter about X world cups and Y olympics, and that women's soccer is probably the most popular, fastest growing sport in the country. These are women and they should be grateful for whatever w pay them. That is really the only justification I can imagine for paying them less. And its disgusting. Just vile. Does anyone actually think the men's team at any point in the next 2,3 years will be taken seriously? they just lost 2-0 to guatamala and almost got booted from World Cup qualifiers. I love them too. i do. They try hard. but lets be real, the women making 1/4 as much? Its prejudicial and they will win in court, and US Soccer will have a massive smear on its face.

Anonymous said...

FIFA outsted ex prez Blabber face basically said he didn't follow the game, and really didn't know much about Alex Morgan. Just shows the mentality of most to the women's game. After this last world cup, and the energy the US Women helped generate in Canada, this has to change.

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Anonymous said...

It's all about Cash Flow as MNT and WMT under the same umbrella are ran as two different entities. In reality soccer in U.S. does not generate enough revenue at all. Look at the most recent NCAA final four (National broadcasted w/ numerous cooperate sponsorships with TV networks and commercial ads) = $$$ for conferences. ACC conference alone will get 40 million. http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/15071018

Same goes with the 4 major sports in U.S. (NBA, NFL, NHL, MLB) profits are coming from national recognition in the TV Networks and corporate sponsorship. Athletes make additional $ from Endorsements.

National Men's and Women's teams doesn't even get televised unless it's a World Cup or Olympic game. Plus with a 90 minute match of continued clock when is there a chance for a cooperation to purchase commercial time besides Halftime. Without Cash Flow for WNT then increase salaries are difficult.

Anonymous said...

The law says equal pay for equal work. The court will make a determination. IF a female golfer and a male golfer are employed by the same organization for the same work you can pay either less than the other based on their gender.

I do not think pro golfers are typically employees in the sense that that the men's and woman's national team members are employed by the federation, so I doubt this would ever be the case.

Anonymous said...

meant to write you CANNOT pay either less the other based on gender if they have the same employer and do the same work.

Anonymous said...

They have a better chance than other athletes and entertainers and I'd guess they win or settle. Easy way for the Federation to make this work is pay them all the same scale with some type of profit sharing. Going to be very hard and ugly for them to claim that it's not equal work.

Anonymous said...

i think they should all quit and play somewhere else that's more fair, like the men's team. And my always told me to never argue with a women, so I agree one hundred percent with the above poster.

Anonymous said...

I think they should let women try out for the men's team and let the men tryout for the women's team. Settle it on the field.

Anonymous said...

I think I am glad my daughter lives in this country where woman vote and demand protections for the fair treatment of our daughters and sons.

Anonymous said...

I think the USWNT should play in bikinis or at a minimum all spandex.

That would definitely draw some viewership.

Yay misogyny!

Anonymous said...

It's should be all based on sports performance just like any other sport, you perform great you get a big contract. The only difference is U.S. Soccer is not contractual as the 4 major sports U.S. National teams can move you in and out at every training sessions. Why do you think there is roster updates every month.

Anonymous said...

That's not fair. You should not be able to get cut, they should have tenure, like the unions.

Anonymous said...

306 Agree even though the WNT pulled up teenage girls onto the squad that are extremely great players there are 100's of potential College and NWSL players that could easily made the roster as well and been difference makers. So is there Child labor laws in affect since there is 17 year old players called up without some type of great compensation pay.

Anonymous said...

Question for any current u13 PF parents. How often does TM miss trainings? Is he at most all of them or should parents expect the assistant to be running most trainings?

Anonymous said...

The men need to draw viewers more than the women. Make those shorts shorter boys.

Anonymous said...

Pf parent here. In the fall tm was head coach and rarely missed. In winter/spring ss is head coach. I have no reason to doubt tm attendance won't meet expectations

Anonymous said...

@10:39

I made a pretty accurate rankings list. Lets see your top 15.

Anonymous said...

Rankings are completely subjective if you dont use a well defined, calculated metric like Gotsoccer or TopDrawer, others. I'm not defending them but they have a purpose mainly to feed parent ego, to give tournaments a preliminary way to seed stuff, and to make GS tournaments more attractive than non-GS events.

If you dont use a metric, the alternative is a parent who hasn't seen a team in years, if ever. And even if they did, would they know what they were looking at? would a team that lost 2-0 be considered "better" in the minds of the winning parents despite the fact that the losing team out possessed, out shot, out played the winning team who simply had, for example, a killer goalie while the losing team's coach was trying to teach the girls a new formation at the expense of being more competitive. Would parents see that quality or simply look at scores? Gotsoccer does not see the quality, just results. In 2,3 years, this all becomes a memory and they each go their own way, hopefully to fun, enjoyable careers at a great academic institution. I wish I had taken things more slowly with my older daughter as it was over way too quickly. Try to enjoy it a bit more, it really is an amazing time in their lives and your lives. It will be over before you know it. Screw the rankings.

Anonymous said...

So lets re-word the question. If you had to make a list of 5 teams to develop your kid as a soccer player in new jersey, which teams would you choose?

Anonymous said...

By track record, PDA and MFA have no peers. I'd put NJ Crush, Stallions, and Wildcats next.

Anonymous said...

9:51 I think you answered a different question. The one you answered is more valid for showcasing/exposure to colleges. Then it becomes an ecnl vs the world question. Most kids are developed at other clubs then go ecnl.

Also it was actual teams not clubs. This is more to identify the top clubs at development. What actual u13 teams will make your daughter a better player than when she got there.

My list based on kids ive seen outside their clubs.

Pda galaxy
Sdfc rage
STA npl
arsenal maximus
Nj crush heat

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Anonymous said...

What a set up question, you probably should have waited a few more hours to respond to yourself.

Anonymous said...

Where is crush coming from as a top spot, what a joke.

Anonymous said...

Where is crush, never seen them play in any real event. Looks like they have three teams at this age, that tells me they are more about cash then training. And stallions? They talk about a one team wonder that was not even their team and the poor girls had to jump to 4 clubs before settling in for last two years.

Anonymous said...

The only people talking about how crush is a money maker, clearly don't know what they are talking about. I pay 2600 a year for crush and they train 3x a week, twice a week during winter and 6 tournaments both state cups and NPL league

The club also offers an extra two sessions in the winter and fall/spring for certain players called CAS. Only a select group though. My daughter was part of this so the last 8 months of our crush experience she has trained 4 times a week and plays as many games and tournaments like other clubs.

TSF SDFC and Maximus all cost 3000 plus. Crush have 3 teams, two who can compete (might not win) with any team in state. Next year their 03 team will compete with anyone around. Let's not forget crush u12 have won back to back state cup titles.

Don't guess.. Go take a look for yourself. There is a reason why their first birth year session has over 95 kids signed up for the 03 team. Only 30 of them being actual crush players. My daughter is safe so the more players, the better ;-)

Anonymous said...

Response to 8:58am post, nj crush has the following:

5 players part of PDP (what gets you to ID2)
5 players part of ODP
3 players part of NTC (national training center- gets the likes of us national staff in attendance)


For a "club" and not an academy like pda or match fit.. Seems to be the place for individual development and reaching success. You find two teams outside pda that have that many players in participation in high level ID camps like the two nj crush teams do

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Anonymous said...

10:05. Which two clubs?

Anonymous said...

10:14, Agreed! He's always been a pot stirrer up here, first it was for the Stallions and now Crush. Top programs don't need to tout themselves up on anonymous blogs. You have nice parents and nice kids, but you just never stop up here do you? T minus 90 seconds till the "its not Danny, you're wrong"

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Anonymous said...

Crush is much more expensive than the 2600, they dump fees on top of you all day long, but so do other clubs.
As for the u12 state cup, this was 9v9 and all the top teams played 11v11, nice try. All of the best girls have left that team and most of the others. Question, why do al your best players always leave?

Anonymous said...

What will we do when Maximus moves up in age and we cant mention them in this forum?

Anonymous said...

Yes, but they are all jumpers. This is his 4th club in 5 years. Stallions, crush, Bulldogs and sdfc are just a bunch of English guys trying to make a living off of the wealthy Northern county people. The top 5 percent of all these girls always end up leaving. But the biggest issue is that with 4 or 5 competing clubs so close, they can never build the best teams.

Anonymous said...

Haha. Danny Vedder is the best coach in the world. Just ask Danny Vedder.

Anonymous said...

11:16 you make a good point. Think about taking the top 4-5 from sdfc sta Maximus and sprinkle in a top crush and tsf kid or two. That team would be nationally strong. Seems these teams just cannibalize each other creating very good but not nationally strong teams.

Anonymous said...

11:16 Stallions have proven they can build the best team (Dynamite) in the past with arrival of their DOC (via 4 other clubs), now they hope to repeat it with Freedom. Its possible, especially when ECNL (other than PDA) at some age groups are very weak.

I'm not sure why posters here attack 9v9 play and praising "top teams played 11v11". Arent all teams going to be 4v4 then 7v7 and 9v9 for the younger age groups? Its more touches on the ball, in tighter spaces - better development, smaller teams, higher coach-to-player ratio.

What is the consensus on "playing up" like Arsenal. Is it better for development or not? Does it force kids out of their element and makes the 5% shine, or you end up losing potential talent, because outstanding kids cant build confidence, dont develop skills at the right pace? How many of the kids that were meant to play up, end up bench-warmers mid way through the season?

Anonymous said...

The comment about 9v9 was about bragging on winning state cups without any competition, nothing to do with small sided play.
The only reason arsenal is playing up is because of the age rule change and they are a club with zero depth across age groups. Playing up is only good for a select few, most struggle if playing up on premiere teams. With the BYC, I do think you will see more girls playing up because they have already been playing against half these players for years. Question on crush - who will be coaching the premiere team at 2003 next year and will you combine the best of all three teams at this age group? I know most of the stronger girls are 2002 kids, so who will be coaching them?

Anonymous said...

Both STA and Maximus played 9v9 as long as they could - They have benefited from that enormously based on their performance.

Most arguments against 9v9 seem to be trollish, I'm sure they play other games with legit competition outside of the state cup. Maximus also won the 9v9 state cup (as did Rage Renegades before)- kudos to them.

So, unless you're the top player (and by that I mean Galaxy) it does not make sens to play up? Is it skill/movement or is it the reaction time/speed/physicality that you need to learn at U14?

Anonymous said...

I actually think playing up a half year as a team is not a big deal. Given the quality of edp already i think this will be good for the teams that do. Think about it this way. Sdfc rage will be an 03 team. Is it better for them to go and beat teams 8-0 or to challenge themselves and maybe lose a few games. I would argue sdfc rage would develop their players better by having them play u15 next year. Think its a disservice to those kids dropping down a half step. If you don't challenge kids they wont be strong in the long run. I would rather have my kid play up to u15 vs playing u14. Shes 02 though so shes got no option.

Anonymous said...

At this age why generalize for an entire team. Some may benefit from playing and some may suffer. Have knowledgeable coach look at the individual child and make an appropriate choice.

Anonymous said...

Playing could also be a negative, as you're going against bigger and perhaps stronger girls and you might struggle. Who knows. time will Tell. i think its contradictory given that US Soccer says play up with the new girls Academy grouping 2003s and 2002s together. Are thee rules requiring a certain percentage of DA teams to be 2003s so they dont get phased out? the very selection process they worried about with BYC will otherwise come into effect with DA selections some 2002s will be off to high school playing against kids who might be 3 and 4 years older on varsity. I worry what will happen to our team the following season when a majority of the kids are off to high school. I think our 2002 squad will end up being predominantly older 2002s, and my kid will end up without teammates, or fill in kids for her U15 season when it counts. The whole thing blows. The U13s and U14s should have been grandfathered out of this. Those National team selections for u13 and u15 are pretty much set by now anyway.

Anonymous said...

My kid played on a team that played up to u11 and u12. They struggled at first but after they got used to the size and strength differential they ended up winning the league for the last 3 seasons they played. Team is now a top west coast club. Unless you have small weak kids it makes no sense not to play up. And socially its so much better to play your school age. I wish my team was staying together and playing up.

Anonymous said...

140 So your from the West Coast on NY/PA/NJ blog. HHmmmm!

Anonymous said...

Looking back at the teams that have played 11v11 early on - only SDFC seems to be doing relatively well - but they do play a lot of games (50+ for rage, 60+ for galaxy). I wonder if the rest dissipated (rush gray, barons, cherry hill) or betting on brawn vs skill did not work out for them so well.

Im excluding PDA here, because their program scrimmages internally in 5v5 and 8v8, including boys teams.

Anonymous said...

The USWNT mauled columbia 7-0 and looked the most potent I have ever seen them. Horan, Long, Tobin, Crystal Dunn. new faces, incredible skill. This new generation of players is at the top of the world talent pool. You dont mess with something that works, and works well. This whole thing is classic bad decision-making. Ther

Anonymous said...

I don't think it matters at this point who played 11v11 early and who stayed 8v8 longer. The teams that are good are able to attract new talent at tryouts so that they can cut their bottom players. Each year a few girls (even ones that were previously strong) start to lag behind. If you cannot replace the weaker players with stronger girls, you won't be as good the next year. Sdfc rage added a few quality players this year (and cut a few at the same time) which is why they are so good and they have to continue to do so each year to remain at the top. If they just fill all of their spots internally for next year, they won't be nearly as competitive IMHO.

Anonymous said...

SDFC does not play well any more against good teams. Too much churn. They beat up teams with 1/4 their prestige on gotsoccer, and then play close games against teams with 1/2 their points. Probably good time to jump on the team as they will need to refuel their tank.

Anonymous said...

Sdfc=point whores

Anonymous said...

Why the hate for sdfc? Aren't they just playing the teams they are assigned to play? Top flight of edp, region 1.

Anonymous said...

#true SDFC is most odd club. 2 good coaches, heavy recruiting.

Look at the U12 Galaxy - top team, plays 64 games, second team plays 31 games. Would you feel as a parent that you're bankrolling the trips to those 10 tournaments for the other team?

U13 Rage - will win group play in region 1, bailed out of state cup, could have saved on travel, better competition. my bet is they will lose EDP to Maximus in rematch of Maximus' first 11v11 game.

Anonymous said...

I can't see SDFC 2002 staying with the club and playing with EDP 2nd league samba.. Maximus? Match Fit?

Anonymous said...

2002 Maximus, 2003 MF

Anonymous said...

Honest opinion. Would you drive 2.5 hours one way to an ecnl club? Is it worth thw sacrifice. We may be in that position next year. Thanks

Anonymous said...

No way, life is way more important than youth soccer.
And you must live very far west in pa.

Anonymous said...

9:50 I do some crazy stuff for my kids sports but that is not reasonable, good luck

Anonymous said...

950 NO WAY 2.5 hours one way is insane! My limit and many others are about 1 hour. Sorry but ECNL clubs train 3 days a week and 1 or 2 games on the weekends plus over night away games. At 2.5 hours you and your daughter could easily spend 20+ hours per week in your car. That's equivalent to almost 2 whole days per week.

If your daughter is that special of a player than it may be worth just relocating where you live.

Anonymous said...

Where do you live?

Anonymous said...

Would a family honestly relocate to play youth girl's soccer? That seems all kinds of crazy.

Anonymous said...

If you do do that, do not admit it! Looney tunes.

Anonymous said...

Ave house price in Bethesda is only 840k if you want to come this way.

Anonymous said...

instead of 2.5 hours one way, find a local trainer and do extra 2 practices a week. you just saved 12 hours. If you think that the local team is not up to par, ask yourself, how did your kid get good enough to play ecnl, on a horrible team. Maybe ecnl is not what she really needed after all.

If you need extra practice competition, play with good boys team. They will stretch your girls capabilities even more than ECNL.

Anonymous said...

Yes there have been families relocating or moving closer to PDA facilities in North Jersey. Seen it first hand from my oldest daughter.

Anonymous said...

Just wow. I should have gone into youth sports.

Anonymous said...

Well parents do it for other youth sports all the time. If you can swing it financially and relocate jobs why not.

Anonymous said...

With respect to geographic access to ECNL, using PF ECNL as a case study, there are currently five players across all age groups from west of the Susquehanna River. This number would have been seven, but two moved into LANCO within the past year. Expect the "West Shore" count to tick up by at least one, if not two next season. Of course, girls DA at PAC, or ECNL status for PAC would likely considerably shorten the commute for skilled players in the PA hinterlands.

Anonymous said...

Because it it a youth sport, a game, an activity. What is so inherently valuable about it that you would relocate to play it a certain club when it is played almost everywhere? I suppose if you had a child that was freak of nature that could go pro and earn a living, maybe. But woman's soccer? I guess everyone just draws the line in a different place. Enjoy!

Anonymous said...

119 agree! Is anyone at the Parade this is why the 4 major sports in U.S. are more marketable and draw $'s than soccer. It's crazy downtown in Philly right now makes you wonder if Philly Union would ever be celebrated like this if they won MLS Cup or Men's/Women's college soccer would win NCAA tournament for soccer I doubt it.

Forget DA/ECNL keep your girls playing multiple sports as you never know if they will excel in something more celebrated.

Anonymous said...

Ok. But I was going for something more celebrated than being great at a sport. Support a family, build a business, build a community. Building a team is great. Pursuing a sport is great. Are they important enough to relocate for? I guess to each his own but I don't see the wisdom of putting sports, any sports, on such a pedestal.

Anonymous said...

I'm 133 I would never relocate for a sport that does not provide enough of an income at the Women's level to support a family. Like I said my dd is multisport and I want her to stay that way until she commits to a school.

Anonymous said...

2.5 Hours what are thinking 9:50 you need a life and so does your daughter. But I suggest looking into the ECNL Discovery player status as a club may offer you that. I've seen first hand clubs in NY that have done this but with newly added ECNL clubs those specific players may not need to do it anymore. Players coming from Western NY state.

http://www.eliteclubsnationalleague.com/resource_center/451485.html

Anonymous said...

I did the one hour drive for ecnl. Its not worth it. practices could get moved a little farther away. sometimes practices were changed. next thing you know we are driving 1.5 each way because of traffic, for 1.5 of practice. stay close, there are alot of good clubs around. Let her do her homework. if she gets into a great school because of soccer, she better be able to keep up or she will never pay her bills after college.

Anonymous said...

If travel isn't an issue, which club in PAE should my daughter go with? We're within an hour of PF, CFC, and FC Bucks- Will cfc actually get the girls DA? Results-wise, PF seems to be much better. I've heard so many conflicting things about all of the clubs

Anonymous said...

1140 - IMHO, CFC or FC Bucks is a better place for a long-term commitment on the part of both parties. Many of the Reading area girls have been gravitating towards CFC.

Anonymous said...

11:40 if your daughter wants to play soccer in college and can handle an intense environment she should give pf a try.

Anonymous said...

PDA tournament; incompetent or unethical? Clearly incorrect flighting. Inaccurate score reporting. Fields changing without notice to either team. Probably both incompetent and unethical.

Anonymous said...

Please elaborate @10:53? Who was misflighted? What is unethical? What score is wrong?

Anonymous said...

FC Stars NPL in flight 1? Nova had there way with them and are now cruising in flight 2.

Anonymous said...

Cruising in flight 2? I guess the scores (and opponents?) are wrong. I see 1-0 victories against perennial powerhouses like Morris United and GPS. Poor Nova. The Jan Brady of PDA. Galaxy Galaxy Galaxy. That's all we ever hear. We're always Galaxy's little sister or Shores older sister...

Anonymous said...

The big difference between CFC and Bucks vs PF is whether your child is looking for development or exposure. At u13/u14, you might want to go for development while there’s still time. PF could easily lose its value as a showcase club soon, anyway.

CFC and Bucks have awesome coaches for the upcoming year. But, CFC is still focused on the boys. PF – it doesn’t seem to matter who coaches because they really aren’t teaching much. Everyone plays one position, one formation, in a rigid style. A girl needs to know the style/formation to get on.

Lots of pay to play rumored at PF. Lots of turnover and tears. An academy or ECNL at PA Classics or anywhere in Lancaster would decimate the player pool at PF. BYC and outreach efforts at the other two are likely to improve player quality and decrease it at PF. Also know that PF has been giving out this year’s ECNL spots since last fall. Makes their try-outs a waste of time.

Anonymous said...

Totally not true that the pf players aren't learning. Both of Coaches at u13 pre ecnl are outstanding. In contrast I have seen very poor sideline behavior from cfc coach but I'm not sure if he is same coach for next year.

Anonymous said...

The 3 PF ECNL coaches are truly outstanding. That said if your kid is not in the top half of the roster she won't get the same attention as others perceived as not evaluator. However they are open to player's improvement and reward it accordingly. Extra training etc can pay off. Penn fusion right now is the best place to be for the top 5 kids on any of the ecnl /pre ecnl teams. That said if CFC starts paying more attention to the girls that could change. They have some excellent coaches over there and the infrastructure is also present to make a improvements. Frankly their girls results should prod them into more action. The BYC may be problematic. Some of the CFC teams are loaded with older players. Penn fusion is more balanced and will largely reshuffle at the older ages and yes has been moving with the 03 and 02 years early to lock in the best "independent"players before tryouts. The 02s will be beastly next year. 03s have a lot of opportunity. I al sure they are hoping some studs show up to fill out and top off rosters at both ages. Saying tryouts are closed sounds to me like someone is either afraid for their kids spot or is from another club hoping penn fusion doesn't run all over them next year. Kids should tryout where they want tot play and where their parents can support them in going.

Anonymous said...

The best players go to PDA. The rest go everywhere else .

Anonymous said...

"Extra training etc can pay off."

Yeah, exactly. You pay lots to do extra training with their coaches privately, your kids will get to play wherever she wants whenever. "Donations" are always welcome too.

Anonymous said...

"Saying tryouts are closed sounds to me like....."

they went to the pre try out meeting and heard them say ECNL will be informed after the first try-out. Who does that unless they have already decided? That plus the 20 kids who say they've offers already.

Sounds like someone wants kids to miss other try-outs to weaken other clubs and leave the kid with no better options than the west chester money maker NPL and C teams.

Anonymous said...

That's the PF way . It's a business .

Anonymous said...

The best don't go to PDA if Zarepheth is 2.5 hours from their homes...

If the kid is good enough to break into the PF lineup the coaches won't need more than 1 tryout to tell because she will have an impact immediately. It makes perfect sense that they would be able to name the ECNL roster after one tryout. Anyway, with NTC and Penn fusion coaches in ODP what diamond is going to show up unnanounced to tryouts anyway? Yup there might not be opennings for role players that's true.

Anonymous said...

Why does Arsenal Maximus feel the need to talk so much smack.... Big talk for a team that isn't even following the new soccer guidelines next year.

Anonymous said...

If you're a top player you're not showing up to a tryout with 100+ players not having been seen before. All clubs make offers before tryouts and after the first tryout. Not sure why PF is being bashed for this. Par for the course up here in ny.

Anonymous said...

April 4th PDA Tournament prediction guy here (see above blog post). I hit 60% accuracy primarily relying on YSRs with some GS adjustments and personal observations. I picked 6 of 10 finalists and 3 of 5 champions. However, I did not have one clean flight, mostly on account of my PDA picks losing. At least Nova was a finalist. Thanks to the reliable Rush for coming through in the end.

Anonymous said...

Here are the RCL results from the past week:

4/6/2016
Elite White
2 – SOUTHWESTERN YOUTH CARDINALS
3 – HERNDON HURRICANES BLACK

4/9/2016
Elite Red
0 – EMPIRE UNITED ROCHESTER
2 – NORDIC PREMIER

0 – RHINOS ELITE
6 – LEVITTOWN WILDCATS

Elite Gray
1 – KIRKWOOD ACADEMY
0 – MSC DRAGONS WHITE

4/10/2016
Elite Red
9 – SOUTH SHORE SELECT ELITE
0 –NORDIC PREMIER

Elite Blue
2 – NORTH UNITED RUSH
0 – NORTHERN STEEL STORM

Elite White
0 – ARUNDEL PUMAS
1 – SOUTHWESTERN YOUTH CARDINALS

Elite Gray
3 – KIRKWOOD ACADEMY
1 – LEE MOUNT VERNON PATRIOTS RED

It’s still too early to predict a winner in the Red Division. North United is now in control of the Blue Division after defeating Northern Steel. SDFC remains in control of the White Division. HMMS previously clinched the Gray Division. The playoffs are on May 7/8 at Kirkwood. Speaking of Kirkwood, this team may be one to watch. Although not ready for F1, it's ahead of all but HMMS and Rush in the Gray Division and has been improving over the past year. If it can survive BYC, it may be a strong contender in mid-tier flights going forward. This week includes a number of weeknight games as teams seek to makeup early season postponements.

Anonymous said...

April 10, 2016 at 8:05 PM , Mate, you just don't stop do you? My child is not with Maximus, but same as I've said last time you tried to start stuff with Maximus and SDFC, you should just stop. You're like one of these dance moms always looking for drama excitement. I dont think SDFC or Maximus talk any crap up here, you just keep attacking them over and over again. Why do you feel that will help your tryout recruitment with your 95 kids showing up to your open tryouts, why do you need more? and is this the way to go about getting it? VEDDER NJ CRUSHING IT!!!

Anonymous said...

PDA tournament was excellent. A tournament doesn't have that much control over referees or their calls. When you have a big tournament in central NJ, on a league game weekend, you pretty much have to gobble up every referee thats around to cover all the games. I doubt the Club assigns referees to certain matches in hopes of impacting the outcome. That's a bit too cynical by anyone's imagination.
Weather cooperated, and there was great soccer.

Anonymous said...

PDA has egg on it's face in this age group. How do you let a rival Academy, NJ Rush, come in and win both their flights and you don't take any?? Pretty embarassing for them.

Anonymous said...

How about TSF coming out of nowhere to take the second flight, I do not think anybody saw that coming.

Anonymous said...

Yes great job by TSF.

Anonymous said...

Anyone care to cut and paste the id2 standouts from tds? Not a premiere member but curious. I should drop them from Twitter cause their teasers get me every time but I'm not paying them.

Anonymous said...

How was PF tryouts last night?

Anonymous said...

Preliminary Flights for DELCO released. GU13 has six flights total, first two currently stand like this (with YSR rating added for comparison):

Championship

Bracket A
ALBERTSON SC FURY '02 PRE-ECNL (NYE) (33.08)
NEW JERSEY RUSH 02 GIRLS BLUE (FKA RAGE FC RENEGADES) (NJ) (34.03)
WAZA FC EAST 03 BLACK (MI) (35.12)
CHERRY HILL FC DESTROYERS '02 (NJ) (32.23)

Bracket B
CLARKSTOWN 2003 WHITE-ROZYCKI (NYE) (32.60)
SDFC RAGE (NJ) (33.21)
NORTH UNITED FC RUSH (PAW) (33.05)
ARSENAL PREMIER MAXIMUS RED 2002 (NJ) (33.08)

Bracket C
HMMS IMPACT EAGLE FC (PAE) (33.60)
NEW JERSEY RUSH 02 GIRLS GREY (NJ) (32.71)
SOUTH SHORE SELECT U13 ELITE (MA) (33.54)
SUSA FC LONG ISLAND SUSA G02' (NYE) (32.90)

Elite

Bracket A
CONTINENTAL FC PRE-ECNL '02F (PAE) (32.22)
LEE MOUNT VERNON SC LMVSC PATRIOTS RED 02 (VA) (31.54)
NJ CRUSH FC HEAT (NJ) (32.25)
WESTERN NEW YORK FLASH ACADEMY WNY FLASH GIRLS 02/03 (NYW) (31.56)

Bracket B
BETHESDA SC FURY PRE-ECNL 02 (MD) (31.54)
ISA SLAMMERS 02 NPL (NYE) (31.35)
FUTURO 2003G (OTH) (Ottawa Canada)
BEADLING 02-03 (PAW) (31.60)

Bracket C
CREW SC ELITE (OS) (32.12)
CFC ARSENAL SKY (CT) (31.25)
WASHINGTON UNITED FEVER '03 (NJ) (29.92)
ALLEYCATS 02/03G NPL (NYE) (31.13)

No argument with the top flight. Big question with Washington United in second flight, particularly with Supernova out of PAE with a rating of 31.26 placed all the down in the fourth flight. Some adjustments need to be made between flights 2 and 4. Of course, DELCO is likely the last hurrah for many of these teams, especially those that will not be competing regional or national championships. The wildcard will be how many of the teams will still be intact after BYC tryouts.

Anonymous said...

@ 9:57 My kid never moved from her field.

My kid is a good technical player, but I recommended to her not playing selfishly and trying to play good possession. The players around her weren't very good and were trying to 'dominate' with awful scissors and stepovers.

If she never even gets the chance to play on the top field with quality players around her, what's the point???

Anonymous said...

1118 Because the Top field is the already selected promised roster of players. All the other participants are there for all the other teams. Like many have said they have chosen there players already from the ID Clinics.

Anonymous said...

Any tryout numbers for 03 split. I heard Mfa had maybe 40 and they have four teams at the age. JU had tryouts yesterday?

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