I had a discussion with my coach since she will go into HS next fall and advise when tryouts occur to move her up with the 01's and see if she can make that squad as the majority of players will be in HS and will not start training until after HS season is over. If not then she will have to play Club and HS next fall, but will limit her club's practice sessions until the HS season winds down.
if you're a top kid on a top club team, you'll deal with it because you want to play forever. you get crossed up in 2017 and whacked again when you go to high school the next year. but you accept it. the midpack and low pack kids on all those thousands of rec teams...they will quit. and all for what gain? what is the value? There isn't any. I challenge someone on this board to state a legitimate gain that might benefit more than the .005% of kids playing who are ECNL teams or national teams. And then i challenge how this change is really that more benefitial to them? don't EcNL girls play high school? rosters of 23, you'd think some might not risk it, but many great players do both especially those who want the extra exposure and social fun of it.
The only truly logical thought I have regarding this, other than trying to be like every other country in the world, is the RAE (Relative Age Effect).My guess is that the powers in US Soccer want the early emphasis of the higher quality training going to the girls that are in the Olympic development calendar year cycle. Just a guess, but it makes some sense.Otherwise, I do agree, many girls will quit soccer if not drawn in by the same grade social aspect. That is a shame.
Personally clubs and league need to push back as I see they will. To much change in a small window. A slow process of starting it at U8 born 2009 then gradually go from there. To change it in all age groups is just insane!
Teach them some resilience. If a changing soccer team roster is their biggest challenge of the year then it is a very good year!
3:29pm. Completely agree that it should be a slow change. Debatable they will do that though!
Hoe do you start at U8 or at any one year? Half the birth year kids will already be on teams and there will not be enough players for all the clubs to field teams. The age groups must be set for all players at the same time so each age group has a 12 month span of players from which to field teams.
This is the best link i have seen highlighting the problems around changing to the birth year systemhttp://soccerparenting.com/2015/08/27/4-real-issues-to-consider-before-switching-to-birth-year-registration/
You'd like to think that clubs can push back and say no to US Soccer, that changing the system is not beneficial and in fact brings up more problems than it solves. But US Soccer won't listen and change their minds, unfortunately it's been planned out by them for a while and the "brains" of soccer in this country decided it was for the best and was the only way for the Country to compete at the highest level. Complete nonsense to change the system due to relative age effect, when the term "relative" is thrown in there then surely time is relative regardless when the start date is?Why would a January start improve players more than an August start? It just moves the measuring stick to somewhere else. Why not start in May or in November? Scientifically it wouldn't matter when the start date is in terms of development, whatever that date is set as simply shows thats the oldest player, hence they should be more physically developed.Countries in Europe still go by school year in terms of forming teams and they seem to know what they're doing given their success.End of the day the change won't happen until the Leagues and Tournaments begin to announce when they will be making the switch. And the chances of everyone doing it at the same time are very slim. Recipe for disaster for a lot of clubs as if they do switch to birth year and find out that only 3 tournaments they were planning on going to are also making the switch then what are they going to do with the rest of their tournaments?I think US Soccer has many questions to answer before they should move forward with this change.
It's over, decision has been made, time to deal with change.
Yup start looking at current roster, team above and team below. Gonna be circus the next 8 months. I personally cannot wait if my daughter is capable of playing with older kids I'm fine with it as she will need to face reality when she hits high school anyway.
Sorry but other countries are better with there youth is because there youth soccer players play everyday. It doesn't matter if it's in the street, a dirt parking lot or against a wall those kids are playing everyday. It's not until they hit the older ages like 13 - 19 they pace themselves to prevent injuries. That's how this country will get better none of this calendar or field change ideas. You will see a large drop of kids participating in soccer for the years to come due to this change. Wake up US Soccer Women's soccer is successful don't change what is not broke.
Sorry but other countries are better with there youth is because there youth soccer players play everyday. It doesn't matter if it's in the street, a dirt parking lot or against a wall those kids are playing everyday. It's not until they hit the older ages like 13 - 19 they pace themselves to prevent injuries. That's how this country will get better none of this calendar or field change ideas. You will see a large drop of kids participating in soccer for the years to come due to this change. Wake up US Soccer Women's soccer is successful don't change what is not broke.
Age change is not going to happen in 2016. Too many opposing it. Some you wouldn't expect like colleges. Everyone behind field changes but they have work to do to avoid a fight over the calendar change. Colleges have little clout with the Federation, but a lot of the clubs whose primary goal is college scholies. If they make the change compromise will be teams fielded by grade at the big clubs.
Funniest Comment I just heard, wow Japan just won the little league world series. USA hasn't won it in 4 years I think they need to change it to calendar year for baseball leagues. LOLEven little baseball in US and international doesn't go by calendar.
Little league switched to calendar year just last year. They did it like a band-aid, quick rip. People complained at first but that noise quieted down very quickly.This change will happen.
Clearly those panicked are those with the '02 birthdays, especially in clubs with powerful u14 teams. I've seen a lot of nervous parents on the sideline.
No little league is May 1 cutoff.
Little League is going to calendar year in 2017 or 2018 They are going to grandfather in some age groups
Nice job by the small sided teams that graduated to big fields at the STA tournament. They certainly held up very well on their own, and both went to a final.
No Little League goes by May 1, for 9 - 18 year olds. Calendar year for 4-8 year olds. Sorry they do it right! helps kids more likely play together in the same grade. http://www.littleleague.org/Assets/forms_pubs/2015/Age-Chart-Baseball-Revised.pdf
Does anyone know anything about the u13 MFA pre ecnl team? I see they have a team, a decent size roster and 5 coaches listed Why are they in the top bracket with such little playing history. Am I missing something?
The majority of the Matchfit team was Holmdel/NJX players I'm sure they probably pulled a few players from club their affiliations or spring tryouts. You can compare the NJX Roster on GS to the Pre-ECNL roster on ECNL's website. They are top bracket because of the MF Club history and ECNL status it seems like it carries a long way. More and more top players will flock to ECNL which I wish wasn't so specific club restricted as there are many teams or players that can not endure the travel expenses they expect when you play for those clubs.
Anyone notice in Gotsoccer many of the clubs are renaming their teams with the abbreviation ending of '03. Take a look! I a few or less '02 ending now. I guess the identification process of calendar year is starting and coaches and clubs want parents to know what team their daughter would actually fall in line with.
Feel bad for the 03' they will be playing with many girls not as skilled with them, they will get frustrated very easily. The 02' will have to work harder.
1227 thanks for the insight. Funny thing is majority of the '02 abbreviation endings are NJ teams. lol Those teams/clubs better get there act together. I also agree the 03's if pulled back will become frustrated playing a year down but it will catch up. As for the 02's they are in the hardest spot as they will be competing with currently U14 players this fall. I think someone mentioned it before it's a ripple affect for every age.
My daughter is an 03' so doesn't hurt her, but what about the 02' kids now that are born Oct, Nov and Dec? In the Fall next year they might not have a place to play because all the girls born Jan to Sept 02' will be going to highschool
1:44, that's my only concern. My daughter is a 7th grader born in Oct 02. Next fall 3/4 of the team will be freshmen, so where will my daughter and the other players born late in 02 play?
The girls born 02' (Sept:1st to Dec:31st)@ U13 today are going to get hit the hardest as many of them will not be able to play with girls born 02' (Jan:1st to Aug31st)@U14 today and entering in HS next fall. Think about it those girls are maturing and will be competing in HS next fall vs. girls 2 or 3 years older. Let's face it if you have not already been looking at any U14 teams today we/you are behind the eight ball. As for those '02's headed to HS next fall it will be a decision if playing HS is that important as a freshman if she didn't make the Varsity team. Sorry but the calendar change is going to impact my daughter as she is a Sept. 02 kid and yes I’m worried!
Your best bet is to chill and sit tight. No matter what move you make in the spring of 2016, you're going to get hit with the high school situation (older 2002s go to HS, youngers have to play another season of club in the fall, and then figuring out the coming together for winter spring). If you make a move now, it would only be for the 2016/17 season and then you still have to deal with HS adjustments. I think your best bet it stay together this season , and since these changed arent AT THIS TIME, mandated till 2017, stay together the season there after. Kind of lucky for this age group as thats when all the 2002s and 2003s would be off to high school. And then you just have to figure out your stuff for winter spring. MOst clubs have tryouts for winter/spring right about now (versus the spring for club fall season). It would be foolish to make a move now or next spring because it doesnt address the high school flop.this system is stupid, plain and simple. its not "pull the bandaid and move on",. every single age group always and forever will have this headache when they get to high school season and , grouped by a calendar, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, the oldest in that group go to HS and the younger have to find club. and a year later, those who stayed behind go to hs and th enext group have to find a club.endless.dumb.
9:09,The reason I think this age adjustment makes the HS adjustment more difficult is simple; with the Aug 1st cut-off you have the minority of most teams with older kids going off to HS, which leaves teams in tact for the fall season. With Jan 1st cut-off the majority of the team is older(grade wise) which folds teams for the fall season, leaving the younger lot teamless for half a season. Again, that doesn't happen now but will after the change goes into effect.Silly question: will 2002's be U14 next fall? If so, the 2002's won't be playing a fall season which means less club soccer overall, since U14's have always had a fall season. If that is correct the end result of the age adjustment leads to less training time with club teams AND isn't that contrary to the overall goal of things?
938 based on the posting prior day many teams have already started changing the naming convention on teams, 03's will be back at U13 and the 02's will move on as U14's. I disagree with sitting and waiting it out if you is on the cutting end of the 02's and she is mixed with 03's at club and will be in HS next fall it's time to start at least looking at the age level above in your club or other clubs just to get a picture no need to switch teams but at least monitor the surroundings.
Don't the various leagues have to make an announcement on what they will be doing or "mandating"? This would then trigger clubs to align, wouldn't it? Isn't it possible that only ECNL league will do the conversion and leagues like NPL, EDP will remain as is?
I think it will start with the ECNL league as many higher ups compare it to the Boys Academy league which is already calendar year. It will then trickle down from there. I'm already hearing some clubs will convert Jan.2016 already and move girls and boys around at the older ages.
10:35am. What clubs are these?I'd be shocked if teams changed things around mid season. Like the previous poster said. Most clubs won't change to birth year until they hear from their league or the tournaments they attend.
10:14,My daughter is actually a 7th grade 2002. Looking up isn't going to solve the problem of her team not playing in the fall next year while she's in 8th grade still.
If I've got this right, currently U15-U18 don't play in the fall. After the cut-off change U14-U18 won't play in the fall
making things even more complicated is the fact that all current 2002 7th graders will graduate their junior year in high school as U18 club players, so unless they start U19 age groups they won't have club teams during their senior year in HS
1056 Exactly our point your 02 in 7th grade, as there are many 02's in 8th grade playing at U14 this fall and a few at U13 this fall. When the change occurs you think all those 02's in 8th grade will be playing both HS and club in the fall. If your daughter is playing U13 this fall you better look at your club's U14 roster to see the expected that will be pulled down back to u14 and entering HS.
11:41,I get what you're saying about looking at the older team to see who will be brought down to our team, but the point I am making is that it doesn't matter who they bring down. If 2002's are U14 in the fall, the LEAGUE will not play in the fall because 2/3 of all players at U14 will be freshman. Again, it used to be U15-U18 didn't have a fall club season - now it will be U14-U18 will not have a fall season.
11:41 Understood they make that change that U14's do not play in the fall. So in your scenario you daughter will not be playing next fall when she is in 8th grade, while her classmates born 03 will be at U13. That will hinder her throughout the summer and fall knowing all the girls she used to play will be getting ready to start playing again and she has to wait until the end of Nov. for Spring season.
Don't your kids play middle school soccer? Isn't that a fall season? My daughter is an '03 7th grader and there are girls on her U13 team that will play HS soccer next year anyway that are in 8th grade now. There are issues now and there will be issues later. I don't agree that the '03 grouping will result in lower level of play. There are plenty of U12 teams now that are pretty darn good. The folks concerned about their daughter being the youngest, well someone has to be. How do you think people feel that have kids born jn June or July? they have been the youngest all along. The only people that should be worried are the '03's playing U13 now that are on the tail end of their current team. they may have to look at alternatives if they are bubble players now, because they may not make the U14 team. Also remember that the 01's playing U14 now will have to move up also. It is just a reshuffling, spots will open up on all age groups making room for the realignment. Stop worrying folks, it will all be fine in the end
12:05, yup!The new cut-off date will create a scenario where EVERY year kids born late in the calendar will not have a fall season team to play on during 8th grade, since the majority of their team mates are 9th graders and the league can't field U14 fall teams.
12:13, you're missing the point. Currently, when older kids on teams go off to play HS ball in 9th there are enough players left in 8th grade to field a fall team at U14. The 9th graders simply jump back in with their team in the spring but didn't miss playing the fall because HS replaced that.New system won't leave enough 8th graders on the team to be viable in the fall of U14. I grant your point that U14 8th graders could always play middle school ball - but really?!Your point about relative strength, size etc just getting reshuffled is completely valid. The reshuffling isn't a big deal - just a temporary inconvenience.The POINT is there will be NO U14 fall teams, which will leave about 1/3 of all players on all teams at U14 with nowhere to play.Your daughter being a 7th grade 2003 is great for her, but 1/3 of her "new" 2003 team will be a grade behind her and not have a fall team to play on when your daughter goes of to HS as a freshman. Forget the reshuffling aspect - just think about the lack of playing opportunity....... other than middle school, which is a farse of an alternative.
1213 we are not discussing level of play we are discussing scenario's for 8th to HS players. Why even bring 03's into the subject of not being able to play at the same level they are playing now. I totally agree there are teams at each age that are very good and this age shift will get parents to open their eyes for both age groups below and above this current one. The hardest part calendar year change is towards the HS and Club players not tied into with Grad Year. When or if a child is looking for recruiting how does a coach determine which kid to recruit an Jr. playing HS and Club ball or Sr. that has to wait until Spring to play. What is everyone's thoughts of how this will be handle by collegiate coaches, I think that will ultimately be the best feedback of how those coaches feel about the change. Does anyone have any articles of college coaches discussing the change.
Not every middle school even has sports teams. Our town doesn't, and I know of several others that don't. and even if it did, the level of play will be several notches below that of which these kids are used to. Could do more harm than good.
The clubs will figure it out, even if it's just a practice team for fall at some clubs.The clubs are all scrambling to figure this out, it's a lot of work for them and they don't like it either, but have to deal.
If there is enough concern, how would a letter or petition work? If you look at the reasoning placed behind the intiative, there is little to back the change and certainly no plan. Some clubs will not be affected as much, they have enough of a player pool to adjust, other clubs not so much. The right thing to do is to introduce it at the U7/U8 level. This would have least disruption to all current youth soccer participants across the country and would not interfere with the development or status of US Soccer on the international level, as our leaders would like us to believe.
soooooo...... does anyone have a solution to the problem that will be created for 1/3 of all U14 players not having a club team for fall of their 8th grade year?I'll put one out there - play 5v5
I'm just glad I have an 2003 and top on her team. So no worries for me. I think it's all the fall baby parents that had the advantage for so long and now have to deal with a new age effect.What goes around - comes around...
1:29, that's a very flip comment. We are not talking about a shuffling issue here. Though flip in tone I would agree with your statement, if that's all that were at stake. We are discussing the complete lack of a team to play on for a fall season..... for 1/3 of all girls that will ever play u14.... every year!
1:29 Again this has nothing to do with 03's or 02's it has to do with the scenarios' of 8th/HS and Sr. year. And if you think you'll be happy being on the top end of a team wait to you see the level of play your experience vs. playing with the top/mid level 02's.
That is your issue, not mine. I'm all good with the change. Move on.
7:55pm. What a petty comment. If you're good with the change, fine, good for you. Others are going to be put in an impossible situation. These are players who will be on your birth year team i may add. How do you think those players will be developing whilst your daughter is playing HS? Their lack of development due to not having a team will have a knock on affect for your team. Think a bit more before making such petty comments. The only alternative is by having a birth year team with all players born Jan to July! Cutting out 5 months of potential players.Ludicrous idea to change the system to birth year, it's going to cause far more problems than it's going to solve.
Parents you do know not every state plays high school soccer in the fall. Many play in the spring like Delaware down to Virginia etc. so this age change may not impact them as much. Can't always look with your areas.
Then in those states the 1/3 of players still in 8th grade won't have a team in the spring of their U14 season
Yup all those 02's in 7th grade will not be playing club ball next Fall! I'm sure clubs will find a way to keep them active.
I feel like I live on planet stupidity and the leaders of this strange world are those in charge of US Soccer who sit behind their desks staring out onto the training fields where Carli Loyd and Rampino and all the other WC champions trot about, all the while patting themselves on the back proclaiming all they've done for the sport and that whatever they decide must be great for soccer. The countless midlevel and lower rec-type kids who love the sport for exercise and being with their friends really have no place in their world.Lastly, and this has been brought up a dozen times and i have to read an answer, let alone a good one. WHAT EXACTLY iS THE PERCEIVED VALUE OF THIS initiative. ? What do the clueless gurus believe this will provide? please dont tell me its that old kids play with older kids because well, a 1 year gap is a 1 year gap wherever it starts and ends. Has to be something far more involved than that to disrupt the system. Clue me in so i can have some faith that the powers ruling the US Soccer universe actually have a brain on their shoulders.
You will just have to live with the disappointment. There is no value to this. Our leaders are dull pencils.
1057 Agreed: We are in the U.S. why not make a voting process by leagues and tournament chairmens. versus a dictatorship.
My guess; someone very important within the ranks of US Soccer just had a set of triplet girls born this past summer late in July.
10:57.I suspect it is because the rest of the world is on a calendar year including the National team. and ODP. this just makes it consistent with FIFA and rest of the planet. Youth soccer was the one hold out and they just said enough get on board. Soon - next year or two, no one will give it a second thought.
10:55pm. Incorrect. Most of Europe is not on calendar year in terms of grouping players. Better get your facts checked before posting things you clearly have no idea about. If you have proof i'm wrong then i'd love to see it but i'm guessing you are just stating incorrect facts in the hope that people believe what you are saying. Clubs in England, Spain, France, Italy, Germany etc. all still divide their teams by U13 or U17 for example. They do not state 02s or 98s only.
How many girls do these HS teams take? Not every kid will make the HS team. Our SD pulls kids from 3 clubs with each having 2 teams each per age group. Our club sends kids to two hs's for the most part (80% pub, 20% private). There are more kids than roster spots. Not only do these girls have to compete with each other for the HS spots they are also competing with the girls 1. 2 and 3 grades above them. Also, getting lost in this conversation is the fact that this is being done for the boys benefit where the top players don't even play HS soccer and the academies run on two year cycles. We can also rest easy knowing if there is $$$$ to be spent someone will have a place for us to spend it. Yes, I have a Nov birthday kid!
1212 true the state their teams U13, U17 etc... but they do roster by calendar year. The FA was last to switch but did this a few years back when the men failed to qualify for a major.
Predictions for FC Stars Cup?
MF team plays better than people on here have predicted.
PDA wins top 2 brackets. MF wins 0 games scores 2 goals.
4:40 So far, your prediction is holding true!!
Is FC Stars going to give out Semi-finalist points or just finalist and champions?
Some if the MF girls do not belong on the field.
super inappropriate. try to stay class people, its just youth soccer and these are all hardworking passionate soccer player. some maybe be better than others, but they all love the game. stay positive. Some if the MF girls do not belong on the field. September 6, 2015 at 8:18 PM
12:12 you should check the rest of the planet.
939, it's happening next year, no turning back. Move on and deal with it.
Age change is unlikely to happpen next year. Not final, but looking that way.
Ecnl is moving this direction next year, our doc has already confirmed this with us. It will help teams like WC who's team needs a change in direction, coming from one within. Congrats to the nj/ny teams, everyone played great. The only team I saw that was playing lights out, was Stars, watched them beat Yankee 4 to 0 and it could have been 6 or more. I'm sure rage and PDA had their hands full. Sdfc looked strong too, watched half their game against Albertson. Sta, shore, crew, Maximus, Galaxy and rage all played well from the stats. Even wc and MF didn't get blown out, although in a easier bracket. Both MF and wc will be wide open next year for ecnl takers, both 2003 and 2002. Have fun this season, it will all be different next year. All the names and faces we have seen for years will all be mixed up. We have a strong pool of players, question is who is staying 2003? , that will be the fun group.
As mentioned before which i agree with, until tournaments and leagues officially announce anything then it makes no sense to be making decisions just yet. The Fall has barely begun, lots can change.
Stop the nonsense, it's happening and every club, league and tournament head are making the change. I run a town league and we are already dealing with it. I wish it wasn't happening, pain in the a$$, but it is for real.
Definitely happening, but there will be some compromises. Also, not certain change will happen 2016. May be pushed to 2017.
I have spoke to many club leaders, everyone is making change asap.
9:25pm. How have you spoke to many club leaders? Name the clubs. I'm sure we would all like to know who they are. I've not heard a single club announce publicly what their plan is. If these clubs are telling you then i presume they are being open about it so please, go ahead, tell us.
Look at all the ecnl teams and In the npl division, change already happening. every team is listed under 02 ecnl team.But then again, the change may never happen because there is a chance someone on this board gets a petition together and they change their minds.
1247pm What's a petition going to do! Give feedback by player parent on the who complaints. Clubs will tell those parents to move on or just find another team. It's happening as someone mentioned prior to your post the naming convention on teams have already started. It will go both ways benefit some and hurt others. Personally this will benefit the ECNL/NPL Clubs playing in the ECNL/Northeast NPL leagues as many players looking for change will look to these clubs 1st next year. We are going to see abundance of player movement, and sideline chatter that will cause a huge disruption this fall/spring season. Wish it wasn't happening but based on conversations and league meetings we cannot stop it.
I was being sarcastic about the petition, someone mentioned prior and I believe the same person who just can't accept this change is happening. All good - If you don't have a fall 2002...
ECNL teams think soccer simply revolves around them but there are thousands and thousands of youth soccer teams all throughout this country, with kids who might be the next Mia Hamm, who think this change blows chunks. And it does. not upon implementation but upon high school entry. Maybe the next change is that ECNL girls wont be allowed to play High school, like academy boys. Then we'll hear those ECNL parents who have kids enjoying high school crying and moaning. For those who say accept it and just move on, I say stop acting like sheep.
ECNL has nothing to do with this change. This is US Soccer - not ECNL. I know that everyone likes to pin everything on ECNL. They may be the first to change, but they are not driving this bus. It creates chaos for their teams and clubs as well. ECNL and NPL will just be able to absorb it better given their relative size and having consistent teams across age groups will allow these two types of clubs to move players around a little more easily. But there will still be pain, unhappy girls and unhappy parents.
Are you kidding me 530? Stop crying and move on, you are reaching now by talking shit about ecnl parents and the org that has zero to do with it. You are a freak. Go to the u14 blog, that's where you will end up. every other club is moving to because they have to.
5:30 - look on the bright side, your daughter will get stronger playing against girls her own age.
To 8:02 and others riding the change of age bus - I'll throw this up again: http://soccerparenting.com/2015/08/27/4-real-issues-to-consider-before-switching-to-birth-year-registration/ I don't see how anyone can support a change that causes 42% of a group of players to be without a team on transitions years (into High School or last year of High School). It makes no sense to create that churn to 'be like the rest of the world' and 'align with national team.' Impact 42% of the population, every year from here on out in two grades, for the benefit of .01% of the soccer population?? Why not just keep it as is and allow ODP and other programs that want to align that way do it - like they do now (and it seems to work fine). US Soccer has got it wrong. Yes, they are pushing it hard and it will be hard to stop, if not impossible. But it has been proposed/pushed before if you didn't know that and it was stopped because of heavy push back. Will we get enough of that this time to derail it? I wish - but there seem to be alot of sheep out there willing to follow without thinking about this rationally...
When I devote my time and energy to rising up in protest it is for an issue with more substance than youth soccer age cut offs. Time to move on from this. Enjoy the roster shifts. They may be interesting.
stop complaining and let it play out. I am sure clubs will take measures to accommodate players that are not in HS yet but others in their age group are. My guess is that even if they don't have enough to play games, those players will continue to get great training in a much smaller, intimate environment. And anyone that knows anything about soccer knows that at the age of 13-14 training is more important then games anyway. And isn't it games you complainers are really upset about?I would love my daughter to get small environment training for a season. That would serve her better then playing low level HS soccer.
I know some of the HS programs are decent but for the most part, they are sub par. There is a real danger of injury by playing against much weaker talent, less than optimal officiating and in many cases, inferior coaching. Some HS coaches are well rounded and very good but the majority are not. The reason why the girls play is to enhance their HS experience. For 95%(just a guess) of the travel players their overall goal is to start for their HS and maybe have a chance at college play. And, for them, HS is great. The top 5%, really should consider whether it is an acceptable risk vs. reward. The less talented players tend to resort to excessive fouls when faced with an opponent that is too good for them to legally defend. Whereas a better and/or more talented player, when faced with an attacker that they cannot legally defend, will tend to foul with understanding and skill which results in more of a careless foul and less chance of injury.
HS is HS parents need to look if the playing experience is worth the while and it goes by which HS your daughter will attend. If you're daughter is going to attend a top 50 HS in the country why wouldn't you want her to play. You can actually look up HS rankings at Top drawer by state or region, here is the link -http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/high-school-soccer/regional-team-rankings/women/fall-2015/5010
1036 Here is a more accurate rank of HS using NSCAA website as I followed this more closely with my eldest daughter http://www.nscaa.com/2015-16-high-school-rankings#Fall
Anyone play yesterday?
Anyone know when NJYS will post the schedule for State Cup?
What happened to sdfc max game yesterday. No update on edp.
3 0 sdfc wins, edp updated.
can someone giv eme some idea, my kid is a young 2002. where does she play next fall if they implement this 'initiative'? the older 2002s will go off to high school, but where we'd normally play u14, 1/2 the kids go away? wont every age year have this same issue every single year? what were they thinking about coming up with this genius idea?And then dont U13 got reshuffled now and again next year? im sure that wont disturb much, getting torn apart twice in 2 years.
752 She will be with U14 next but probably only playing in the spring as to what I'm hearing there will be no Fall league play for U14 as the top half 2002 have High school games.
Next year will be ugly transition for 2002 girls playing u13 currently. Will be a good transition for older 2002 girls, as they will be in pole position for starting spots on new 2002 team for 2016. Looking at ecnl club rosters, only about 30 percent of teams on average are 2002 girls for current u14 teams, so there will be many spots available. I think this will also open up doors for many stronger 2002 girls who are not currently playing in ecnl clubs and it's the perfect time to make the change for them as the recruiting years are coming quickly.
i think a lot of clubs will begin the process this spring, so when tryouts come they will have an idea what they have in their existing club. That makes the most sense. 2003's will basically repeat U13.
Yes but for many of the 2003's playing at a high level it may feel it is a step back staying at U13 next fall. Just my Opinion!
I hear what you are saying, but i have seen some of the best players at the best clubs are younger or even coming from the younger teams. Size of players will be the biggest change in most instances. I do not see any step back staying at U13. As a matter of fact, it may help the confidence level of the 12th player up on current U13 teams that are 2003 birth years. Opportunities will be created for playing time and eliminate any prejudices previous coaches may have.
The more talented 2003s will probably play up on the 2002 group.
Then they won't have a team in the fall if they are with the top clubs that make the change.I agree with second rate clubs like sdfc, Maximus, rage, sjeb etc.
Looks like the change will be next year for age, with the small sided at the younger ages being worked in the following year. This is not final yet, as you can imagine there are some powerful contingents who want to be heard. You can't move the calendar and have no impact. The 2000-2004 age groups are probably the ones impacted the most as kids are different in their physical development. In a general sense kids born from 1/1-7/31 are the beneficiaries and kids born 8/1-12/31 are not. You just have to hope your kid is with a club who is going to have a good transition plan. I would guess that the bigger the club, the easier the transition they will have. In the end this is being done for only one reason, grow the business of soccer. As it is a business, if your kid is a hard worker, and coachable and you are not a problem your kid will have a spot with said club. What I would not want to be is a later in the year age kid, who is on the bubble to move to a new better club who waited. They may have missed their chance. Most clubs prefer their own over new as long as the kid works hard, is coachable, good teammate and the parent is not a problem, ie isn't loud and pays their bills on time. There is always opportunities for supper players, but frankly there aren't a ton out there. Most of the girls in NJ playing at the top 30 clubs are good players and help the team, but are not difference makers.The worst part about the change is that this will break up many teams. Many kids will be forced to move either because they aren't good enough or they are too good. Got to grow the business.
Does anyone know if EDP / NPL have announced their plans regarding birth year switch mandatory for fall of 2016 or fall of 2017?Heard US Club has said the switch will be mandatory for fall 2016 and if that is the case than you would think that the leagues that use US Club carding will have to switch for fall 2016. Make sense?
224 Your are blind it's not about growing the business the business grows and declines itself based on the success of our national teams. Look what happened the last time the WMNT won the world cup more parents that didn't even think of signing there 4-9 year old up for soccer did. Same thing is happening this year due to the success U.S. had in Canada. Calendar year change is driven by the powers above to align it up with all the ID programs like ODP, ID2, US Training Centers, academy boys and probably the ECNL league. What does changing it to calendar year have to do with growing business as the entire youth sports this era is all comes down businesses.
Update to my 2:24 post. Done deal, 100% approved as I said. Age change mandate for fall 2016 and field size 2017. Wish I owned stock in US Soccer.
Its a real loss. My daughter plays for a "top club" by your definition being a club i presume other than the ones you so obnoxiously listed. And like my older daughter, she would love to play soccer for her high school. High school soccer in our town is strong, its a good program with good training, not the best, but its useful. We've gone to countless girls games to watch her sisters' friends play over the years. its community, its fun, and its pretty good soccer. Playing with kids a few years older is valuable, helps them grow up, mature, socially adapt. Our family loves soccer, loves club soccer, loves everything about the sport. This is the first time I've actually hated something so much about the sport, to hear that my kid, who's done nothing but bled for her club team, if she were to choose to play high school in her school of educational learning, might not have a club team when she returns in the winter of her freshmen year. That's wrong on 50 levels. FU i say to US Soccer. They lost a supporter in me. Ill always support soccer and the kids, but that group can go fu themselves in their pursuit of monies and control.
Most club teams have access to high school fields because of the good synergy between the high school programs and the local club teams. The club teams help develop the players who play for a few years in high school. There is a common goal. As soon as high schools realize that club soccer is just draining talent, I wouldn't be shocked if they told them they were losing access to them. If you're not going to help develop the players who join us for a short fall high school season before returning to your Club, then we don't need you chewing up our fields. Then you are a pure for-profit business with nothing to offer the community, so you shouldn't have access to community resources like turf fields and lights. Long Island soccer does not exist without the use of high school fields.
622 If your daughter has any talent, she will be fine. Move on, you age adanavtage is over, that's your real issue.
I think we all acknowledge the main issue with the age change over is going to be HS and College Recruitment. And believe it or not, the rest of the world doesn't place HS soccer as being important. Schools in Europe and South America do play games against other schools but the majority of players play Club year round (even if not a high level, low level clubs still play year round) and HS is a secondary option with them juggling both in the same season. So US Soccer changing things to align the system with the rest of the World does not make sense as we in the US love our HS sports and College sports. The rest of the World doesn't care about those things so the birth year system works fine for them.My daughter will be fine with the change over but many won't and it's an interesting discussion to have to see what will happen with those born in those limbo months (Aug-Dec). An issue that a very, very small % previously had until this change was brought into effect...I don't think US Soccer really thought about those who are not in the top 0.5% of players in the Country would be affected by the change. And before anyone comments, i know it's definitely happening and i don't need to hear "get over it" etc. This is just a discussion for others if they have any insight as to what Clubs will do for players in those limbo months.
I have two kids, one is a beneficiary and the other is not. In the short run I'd expect this to be very disruptive as most teams are impacted. They probably should have grandfathered in some of the groups. Even the younger side of the group is impacted as they will lose teammates and potentially coaches.
Ditto, love to hear what clubs are saying. My kids are younger, but this age is ground zero.
I am not really certain why the girls can't do both High School and Club soccer at the same time. Reduce the Club schedule - and reduce the high school schedule. This is how it used to be done - or at least how it was done where I grew up. There was no high school soccer on weekends. And we only played 1 club game a weekend and did no tournaments during the high school season. (We had to do it that way because half the state played girls soccer in the spring and half played it in the fall.)As a naysayer - the problem is that High School Sport programs have lost sight of what their role is. They do not develop soccer players in high school, and for anyone who is interested in playing in college, it is about surviving without a career ending injury caused by playing against girls that try to make up for what they lack in skill with physicality.On the positive side, high schools sports are supposed to be fun - playing with your friends and representing the school. However, as only people in America can, we take the fun out of it but making it an absolute grind. High School sports should not be about running the teams into the ground with 3 games a week and practices on weekends. In soccer, your club team is what matters. High school coaches need to realize that and act/schedule accordingly. Talent is too defused in high school soccer for it to be a really great training environment and strong players are asked to do too much on the field. I am glad my daughter playa school sports - and soccer in particular, but I feel like the tail is wagging the dog with high school sports. We should all take a deep breath and realize what our kids are really trying to accomplish by participating If you play basketball, you are expected to be at practice the day after Thanksgiving at 8:00 AM - so forget driving to CT to have Thanksgiving dinner with Grandma! High School soccer now starts "captain practices and fitness" as soon as school ends. This is CRAZY!!! And certainly is not what high school sports were supposed to be all about.
Most of the Northeast Pre-ECNL & NPL Teams kick off this weekend going to be an interesting tale if there is truly a balance of teams playing each other vs. what EDP does and just group the best teams regionally. http://nationalpremierleagues.com/NortheastGirls/Schedules/index_E.html
Wow this blog has been officially moved on! Wow 5 days and 1 post did everyone move to a different blog?
Any team announce preliminary plans for how they are going to deal with the birth year change?
11:19, I had the same thought. However, it may be that everyone is reading the U14G blog for its sheer entertainment value.
What's up with SAC premier from MD is the south edp div? How does a team like this get put in a top division and waste everyone's time?
Hey, they scored 4 goals on the season so far.I guess giving up 17 could be considered poor. lmao
They are all talking behind the scenes. I think some clubs will win and others will lose, I know that I'm going to use as an excuse to look around and change clubs without dealing with pissed off coaches and parents. Everything will be changing, so no one will really care as much as normal. I have an 03, so should be an easy transition and most of team will be moving to 02 team. Our coach won't tell us anything.
Next fall is a good time to look around since many will be out there. Tryouts will probably be packed at the big clubs. All comes down to how far some of us want to drive.
I'm 1119 I guess I started this blog back, Yes there will be many changes in the next year due to age criteria change parents will just need to look at teams above(02) and below(03) to see how they are performing to determine if you should stay with the club also coaches will change.I also think many have flocked to the U14 blog because it is very comical and I thought this blog was bad the past year and half. Those 02's and 01's in the U14 blog are just plain crazy. Glad I have and 03 as the U11 blog is just a near image of what were doing on this blog last year. lol
So, which clubs are the 03s targeting? Both north and south Jersey. Maybe PA? North Jersey has many more options than the south.
There really isn't many options in south jersey you either pick to stay with your town travel or move on to join NJ Rush or SJE it's a shame because there is large talent pool getting the missed due to the high north jersey population and exposures those clubs get. PDA South I still consider the lower part of the central Jersey area for many.
Darn shame for the southies. Where are you considering in the north?I assume you are in the north?If you are one considering a move.
951 of course the obvious would be PDA or MatchFit in the North as they provide the path to highest league level(ECNL) but if your looking for strong clubs that will compete in the high end tournaments as well in no particular order SDFC, STA, NJ Wildcats, Maximus, Copa, TSF, NJ Crush, NJSA, or PDA & Match Fit's NPL teams for North and South.
Maximus. Really? They will split like log next year with age change, this is a very average one trick team and the age change will kill them.Only the clubs with strong teams above and below should be considered, all other are way to risky. Sdfc has a solid team below, so the 03 should come out strong. Nj Rush is a sage bet too. WC, MF and PDA are the safest bets.
How is repeating U13 at this late stage of their youth careers helpful to their development?
It's not development it's re-alignment of development for everyone. If your daughter is capable of playing up I'm sure your club will do it.
You mean re-alignment of monies.
Don't be so sure. We have a good squad comprised of 02 and 03 players. I spoke to my DOC this week and he was fairly certain that irregardless of other issues, they will absolutely as a Club break into 02-only and 03-only squads. I would imagine most of the big clubs will split them up. They'll ignore or delete the bitchy emails, and come September 2016, that's it, they have the situation they have always craved to enjoy.
Other than some changes to the rosters the situation is the same as it has always been. 12 month age groupings with some players on the younger end and some on the older. Some will dominate and some will struggle and it will all have more to do with their natural ability, innate interest in the sport and internal motivation than with what day they were born.
When does id2 start looking? Is it u14, currently with 01 girls being the youngest? I have heard that U.S. Natl camps are starting u11 with the 04 year, which is a big difference.
U.S. Soccer training centers. I believe 2004 is currently youngest age - best shot at natl team exposer. Us club is id2 - second rate to above and I believe that is 2002 currently. I could be mistaken.
US training centers are done by state, and it starts at 2004 currently but I think it's ECNL club driven as many of the trainers are from ECNL or connected to those clubs but you may have the one off's that are not. Hardest part is once you get removed it's very difficult to get back in. Been there for a little over a year now and I'm sure it will be the time until someone else comes in and replaces many of the girls that been there the past year. ID2 is currently a bi-year submission it's 2001's now but 2002's can also be nominated as well. Very tuff for a 2002 to get in as they are competing with 2001's. There were a few 2002's and even 1 2003 in the last selection this past year and they are also on the national pool as well. I think this is the best exposure to national team exposure v local US training centers. Link to ID2 selectee's: https://www.usclubsoccer.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/PLAYER-ROSTER-Girls-id2-Training-Camp-2015-04-16-to-2015-04-19-Raleigh-NC.pdf
A couple questions. NJ doesn't have Club soccer in the Fall in High school correct?Do other states still play CLub in Fall in H.S?What if your child doesn't want to play H.S and just for Club, they stay idle in Fall w/ no games and just train?
9:59 - Some clubs are offering training sessions and even some scrimmages to the High School girls that choose not to play for their high school. By providing it to players in 9th-12th grade, they can get a nice number of kids to train together.
There is no national pool for 02s or 03s now, only the training centers. Id2 is about finding the kids who may not have the exposure otherwise. However clubs tend to select the older kids that are already in the national pool. ID2 is also about getting the recommendation from the club not necessarily the best players. And the club always has an agenda.
I know some parents have gone through this when your child was 10 or 11 or so. Is the ODP young olympians or 2005 NJYS Club worth going? DOes your your child get picked at this young age? Is this just a money maker?
802 Money Maker doesn't truly seperate the most talented, ODP is worth it at u14.
So there are 3 main NPL leagues in the area need direction on which league is better and which has stronger teams as we are looking to move on from town level travel next year, need assistance. Live in Northern Jersey Area?EDP-NPL: http://www.nationalpremierleagues.com/easterndevprogramnpl/index_E.htmlNortheast NPL: http://nationalpremierleagues.com/NortheastGirls/index_E.htmlNYCSL: https://www.nyclubsoccerleague.com/html/npl/home/member_clubs_girls.asp
@ September 30, 2015 at 9:14 AM It really doesn't matter which league. All leagues are lop-sided from EDP's Division 1 to EDP's NPL, NE NPL to NYCSL NPL to ECNL. Just go to a few training sessions to a few teams that play at a high level, look for the teams (if your daughter has some good talent), that are ranked high in any of the leagues I mentioned.
@ September 30, 2015 at 9:14 AMRead the U14 Blog to see where all the drama is, then run the other way.
What's the difference between playing region 1 and playing npl?
8:49 Just a different leagues Region 1 is ran under US Youth carding system NPL leagues have several leagues under the US Club carding system. If you live in PA,NJ,DE it's the Northeast NPL and EDP-NPL leagues.
Top Drawer Soccer finally released its top 25 U13 rankings. Locally, the clubs fall out as follows:3 - PDA Galaxy7 - HMMS13 - MD United14 - FC VA15 - NJ Rush (FKA Renegades)18 - FC Stars of MA22 - Albertson23 - North United (Pittsburgh area)
Don't fool yourself with TopDrawer rankings it's an ECNL driven website just look at the older age groups U14-U18 and how majority of ranked teams are ECNL clubs. GS is more reliable source when tournament ranks teams to play.
Agreed with 1:13pm. Ignore Top-drawer, completely ECNL driven
So all the top teams on got soccer with 13 events each are the best of the best? Please - they are all a joke. And yes top drawer is ecnl driven and BS too, but they do dominate 90 percent of the teamsaccrosss the nation. Look at sta at the top of GS and the amount of events and all the other top teams. Got soccer doesn't even give credit for PDA tournament but gives sta 5 th place points and first place points in two leagues at the same time. Look at win ratio - thats the real ranking.
PDA chose to not be a got soccer event. Probably due to having to give got soccer a small share of money for every team that attends. Money they could otherwise keep for the Club.
Here we go about rankings things will shift once the age conversion goes in place. Keep chasing the formula of being ranked and many will just worry about putting their child in the right place.
155 No body said the top teams in GS are the best of the best the prior poster just mentioned ignore Top-Drawer because it's ECNL driven and GotSoccer is a more reliable source for help on tournament placing. Which I completely agree with the top teams can chase points and placed in higher brackets at tournaments and then they do not place get zero points and when they join the next one they are placed accordingly. It's a system to help tournament managers align teams that's it. The system works as older the team get's and more history comes into play.If it didn't work then many tournaments would just drop it and go traditional way of asking a coach where they want to be.
As long as we are on the topic of rankings, are there any strong opinions out there about the Youth Soccer Rankings USA site.http://youthsoccerrankings.us/This site reportedly uses a "predictive power" system from which a point spread between two competing teams can be established. Among New Jersey teams, it ranks NJ Rush Blue as #1, #26 nationally.
@1:05 don't think so - look at region 1 #6 Arsenal beat badly by #11 SDFC and badly by #37 SUSA Commack#16 Clarkstown beat by #37 SUSA Commack - just examples, no credibilitynone of the rankings are accurate since kids are still moving around and some teams making adjustment to large sided - kids also maturing at different rateslook for development not rank
I here the 02/03 thing has peoples heads spinning. Anyone know what ECNL teams are going to be having major shake ups ? CFC and a Bucks don't seem that competitive and may have spots. PDA and Penn Fusion seem locked up . Thinking about jumping across the bridge. Any opinions out there ?
Again no rankings table are viable at this age Gotsoccer is a tool to help tournament and league settings. Thus the reason why USSF initiative is being pushed out to prevent competition and rankings on the younger ages and focus on development. Look if new rules were in place last year at U12 my daughter would of been playing 9v9 and this fall the team would of been 11v11 for the 1st time. So the transition would taken another year to get accustomed to playing on a bigger field with more players.
4:12 You must be from SJ area if those clubs are in a close enough distance to travel. Remember those ECNL Clubs - PennFusion, CFC, Bucks also have a string of players below and above each team's age brackets they will pull down or up from depending what year your daughter is born 03 or 02. I've already heard rumors of one club planning on moving some girls this spring around and a few already bringing outside girls in for sessions. Plus most of those clubs in PA - PF, CFC, Bucks usually have 2 or 3 other teams underneath there ECNL team, which are in the Northeast NPL league or EDP/PAGS league I'm sure each coach already has eyes set on whom they are moving up as not much changes are going to happen based on the age adjustment. Gotta look at the numbers before you leap make sure you are not dragged in and placed on one of there non-ECNL teams when you commit. Best bet is to stay put and let things shake up half a year then see who the power houses will be and if your daughter is that strong enough she will make it either way.
I know that the NJ Stallions Stars are in NPL at u13 and every player is extremely advanced their technique and tactics are almost perfect and they are amazing young woman.-Brandi Chastain
6:06 you and your teammates might want to try actually scoring a goal or winning a single game before you start making ridiculous statements . Nice try tho !
NPL teams for PF/CFC/Bucks are very weak.Things tend to change at U14/U15, when outside clubs fall off and talented kids start looking into better options.PF ECNL may be set, but CFC/Bucks are far from having quality up and down the lineup and might offer the most minutes. Probably best to do your homework and contact head coaches to see what they offer.Certain teams might have positional deficiencies, so you may find one club particularly weak in one area that might suit your daughter. Not that hard to arrange practice time at these clubs.
With the 03/04 change, nothing is locked up. Depends on what year you are looking for? PDA will be very strong in both years, not many others will. Except PF. If I was playing in the south, would head over there like the best of sjeb did. I wonder how many of them are 02's though? PF and PDA will end up on top. MF and WC are very weak and will continue to struggle. If prior posting is accurate, I think the PDA 03 team will come out on top having the majority of starters at that age bracket currently and a strong team below them too. Does anyone know who will coach that team? I hope it's mike O - then the team will have 30 players and everyone will make it. Most teams sway the other way and have 70 to 80 percent of older year age as starters. 80 percent of the top girls at u13 currently are 02's.
So the stallions poster, who ever they are - tried to make the post look like it came from a ex professional, but posted under her name. Too funny - I'm sure she panicked after she posted and realized it wasn't anonymous. By the way, who are these mighty stallions?
not the stallions poster, but a quick review of stallions u13g roster shows a paige lacey, so its possible it was the actual kid. many have said it before that its very possible and likely that kids/players come on these boards. so, while i wont even comment on the content of her post, lets let that die on the vine since its possible she's reading. if she is, paige, dont read these boards. go enjoy your sport, enjoy your time with your team and don't post up here, nothing will come of it.
@October 5, 2015 at 7:24 PM nicely said.To Parents of girls on all teams: Try and tell your kids/players not to log into the blog if they know of it. They should probably steer away and explain to them why.
Starting to get more and more talk within the many teams on this age change have to admit it parents on my daugther's teams are up and up on what to do as both teams above and below U13 are not as strong. Wish they made this change for U15 and up only. Many of the club's team are playing in the same tourney this weekend so many of the parents will be flocking to watch those teams
it comes down to whether you want to play high school or not. Plenty of strong teams that will play up at 2002. And if you're ok missing out on high school soccer, then maybe a nice 2003 group if you're ok playing down and repeating u13.
841 Depends we plan on keeping her with an 03 group as my daughter will only be in 8th next year but worry about the quality of play and players.
Since Montclair United is part of Matchfit. Do you think they'll ever play ECNL out of Montclair (North) area?
914 After reading the older blogs it seems the next ECNL club to get it with be NJCSA as they also have boys DA out of the North. So PDA, Matchfit, NJCSA will be the 3 ECNL clubs in NJ. NEFC will be the next for NY, and PA Classics for PA. That is the rumor in many blogs.
NEFC is in MA not NY. There is also talk of a girls DA being started by US Soccer to rival (and eventually overcome) the ECNL by US Club Soccer. If that's the case then certainly you'll see the downfall of the ECNL.As for NJCSA getting into ECNL, money talks as that club has not got a single talented team on the girls side. A real shame when other Clubs are developing players and have strong teams throughout who deserve to be in ECNL.
None of the parents seem worried on my child's team. We'll just stick together with majority being 2002 girls. If at all, maybe add 1 player, if anyone that comes at to our next tryouts could mesh with the talent/level of our current girls.
NJCSA is backed by Cedar Stars and they have a lot of money. U.S. Soccer wont spend the time and money for a girls USSF DA as many DA's are for free and backed by either MLS affiliation or Big Club's like PDA and if that is that case they will follow the boys clubs that are under US Soccer DA and will cut out clubs like Penn Fusion, World Class, East Meadow Etc. USDA Clubs: http://ussda.demosphere.com/ It is ironic how many of the USDA are ECNL clubs as well so maybe there is some truth to that rumor.
Not liking the NPL idea. Played better competition in other leagues where you moved up and played top teams that won in competing brackets/divisions. Now, a club just buys a license, and boom, they are in the league. So instead of our team moving up and playing teams that play the style that our team plays, we our playing teams that need to play catch-up. Would much rather stick to playing against the teams that already play how our girls play. Especially when you have to travel so far to play against a team who is the club's B level team.
@ 10:50 am......Cedar stars has one of the better U10G teams in North/Central jersey. Don't just spew info that you don't know about.
1207 I know what you mean, I don't get the segregation of these leagues ECNL, NPL etc. Best teams should play the best team’s bottom line. I hate the fact we have to wait until a tournament to see the best teams. It's 50/50 right now we dominate one game or game is played evenly matched. Can someone explain to me why US Club approved to NPL leagues in the same area - Northeast-NPL and EDP-NPL to me if you combined the best teams from both leagues that will ultimately be the best teams and probably be better than majority of the ECNL teams in that league
12:27pm. 1 team? Really? I didn't know that. Kudos to have 1 team out of the whole girls side of the club who are 1 of the better ones in the State. Well done, i mean it, really good job by them to develop 1 team. Put them in the ECNL right away because no other clubs in the State have 1 good girls team in their Club.
@1:43.... are just plain stupid? They just started to create the girls program 2 years ago. they only have a couple teams or so. You're the clueless one that said they haven't created a single solid team. They only have 2-3! Again, no knowledge but spew garbage n see what sticks!
It doesn't matter the whole soccer world changes once again when they go by age group this group of girls at U13 has been stuck in the middle of every change possible. From the decision to go 8v8 or 11v11 2 years ago, then to what league to move too, now it's the calendar change. 2-3 years from now maybe another change will occur and few on here may be right a DA program for girls. All in all it's been a joyful ride with it's ups and downs, dramas, stories to tell, Etc. Lets just sit back and enjoy another 2-3 more years because as I said to my husband our daughter probably has 1 more fall season to play next year then we'll be sitting on a couch on the weekends every Fall thinking what should we do this weekend.
Who will be the best 03 teams next year to try and get on?I think the 02 teams will all be good, knowing the age groups above have many solid teams.I know there will be a few teams that just stay together and play 02. They will struggle a bit, but they have no choice because they clubs don't have the depth necessary to go with change.I think we will see the transition in winter and spring.
1010 What state are referring too?
All I can say is good luck to the 02's after reading the U14 blog the past several weeks that age group has a boat load of drama and craziness. Hopefully it's more of the 01 parents but remember many of those teams are made up of 20-50% of 02's as well. Glad to have an 03 and will gladly stay down again to play U13.
"Since Montclair United is part of Matchfit. Do you think they'll ever play ECNL out of Montclair (North) area?"Couldnt Summit, Parsippany, Holmdel and Mercer ask the same question about their towns?
Matchfit will be kicked out of ECNL just like what happened to Boys' DA. LOL As it comes down to $$$ for ECNL.
3:24pm. NJSA has been around for years. All they did was add a C to the organization when Cedar Stars decided to come on board. They have had girls teams for 10 years and only ever had a couple of successful ones.End of the day if NJCSA make ECNL in the next 2-3 years then it's a farce. Their teams should be playing at the highest level around and be winning consistently over a prolonged period in order to earn entrance. Not pay x amount of money and then "welcome aboard". If the later happens it just adds further proof that the Sport in this country is going the wrong way.
Southern NJ area. Average '03 player playing high level soccer at u12. Where would you try to move that player? pda south, rush, sjeb, cross a bridge?
1112 There is also REAL, Washington United, and a few strong town teams like Voorhees currently are U12
Want to stay away from 'parent coach' situations.And want to get her to a club or team that will have an 03 team she can play on next fall. Heard REAL coaches are screamers. Is that true? Does Washington United use parent coaches at all?
What is in Parsippany and Summit?
@ 11:07But if it does happen watch how good the girls teams will get in a year or two. Promote the product and run the organization well and talented players will come
3:52pm. The point is that other Clubs are doing a great job on the girls side yet won't get given the chance. These are Clubs who wouldn't have to wait 1-2 years to field competitive teams within the ECNL. Good topic here, what would people class as the best girls Clubs in North Jersey, Central and South?
"What is in Parsippany and Summit?"Someone asked if MF would play ECNL out of Montclair since they are part of MF. MF has several affiliates including those two. So what would make you think Montclair had an edge in moving ECNL from its current locations at MF?
Never say never, but All full MFA teams play out of MC or RHS, with Mercer being an exception. The problem with the new facility may change things I'd guess. Montclair, Summit etc are affiliate teams. Mercer is a full team.
Mercer is a full team? What does that mean? What is Holmdel?
how do we see how PDA is playing this year, never hear or see anything. What about njx, where are they playing now?
You probably need to look at the ECNL and/or NPL website to see how PDA's season is going.
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