Once again, unsupported rumors, jealousy, and ignorance on this board. He said she said. Grow up.
If you think what 9:34 said was an unsupported rumor, then you 9:43 are the idiot. And an out of the loop uniformed one at that. Tryout were strictly a way to help decide who would be on the 2nd team. Sad that you are stating something that entirely wrong.
Wipe your tears and move on.
Don't all teams do that? Not for nothing but it is nearly impossible to make a top team at a try out.
10:35Yes, for top level teams it is.
Yes at this age coaches know before tryouts whole they will take on from outside or from internally from 2nd team. It also depends on needs remember teams need to stay competitive or the coache may feel the pressure of losing there job.
MFA's top player is on the move...
What's the reason kids go to Stanford or Harvard when they also were accepted at Brown or Cal Tech?PDA is the best girls soccer club in America. The U14's just won it all as 13's AND their coach leads the only Top 25 NCAA DI program in New Jersy and he is the DOC at PDA and he just won 17 national title in 2013, 18's in 2014, 17's again in 2015...The girl is part of US soccer but at PDA so are at least TWO dozen others from 10 year olds all the way up to Heath and O'Reilly. Nothing against MFA but anybody truly great in the area over the next 5 years is going to PDA.
Wow!!! I guess you haven't had anything to eat in a long time. Can't be any room for food with all the kool aid you have drank. "Best Club in America" is the most over the top statement yet. Did your daughter get a club discount for that last post?
"Stars Cup is rated as a Premier Elite Tournament by GotSoccer, #1 in New England and #5 in the nation for girls tournaments."Why do clubs care about GS? So because a club posts this on their website does this make a team a point chaser if they participates in this event?Let's go GS - get the PDA event right give these teams their points - you manually enter events for ever event get this one right you have had enough time to fix what ever it was you were fixingU13 Girls (Red) NEFC Elite Matchfit pre-ECNLFC Virginia Pre-ECNLEast Meadow Hotshotz (White) PDA Dragons FC Stars of Mass West UnitedWorld Class FC '01 CharltonMatch Fit NE NPL (Blue) GBUFC 01 Select TSF Academy 01/02LVU 01PDA-Shore Fusion (Gold)Captital United Blue ForceFC Bolts GreenEmpire BuffaloAlleycats Neko (Platinum)South Central Premier SpiritFC Stars of Mass NH UnitedMatch Fit BlackCFC U13 Girls Arsenal
"If you need more proof that soccer continues to grow at a good rate in the United States, look no further than Chattanooga FC's recent tournament victory"Chattanooga defeated the Indiana Fire, 3-0, on Saturday in a National Premier Soccer League semifinals match played in front of a record crowd of 9,236.""marked the highest attendance in the history of the 4th tier NPSL."WHAT Div 4 teams getting some love? If you read this board you would think only the ECNL or F1 at MAJOR tournaments get love not your rinky dinky tournaments.Now we just need to get every NWSL team to average 10k a game - that's not alot.Average Home AttendancePortland Thorns FC 13,320FC Kansas City 4,626Western New York Flash 4,485Washington Spirit 3,625Boston Breakers 2,427Seattle Reign FC 2,306Chicago Red Stars 1,713Sky Blue FC 1,677All this talk about MF and PDA and NJ Soccer - SKY BLUE can't even average 2k a game. That my friends is sad!!!!! We do our part as a soccer family - do you?
FC Stars Girls - U14 - 45 TeamsALBERTSON FURY '01 ECNLALBERTSON FURY 01 NPLALBERTSON FURY WESTBAYSIDE FC BOLTS NPL RED 01/02BEACHSIDE SC CT BEACHSIDEBOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU14 ECNLCSU U14G NEP ELITEEAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZEURO UNITED FC EURO UNITED 2001GFC BOSTON BBA GU14 NPLFC BOSTON BBA GU14 ROYALFC BOSTON BBA GU14 WEST ROYALFC BOSTON BBA NORTH GU14 PREMIERFC BOSTON BBA NORTH U14 ELITEFC STARS OF MASS CENTRAL UNITEDFC STARS OF MASS ECNLFC STARS OF MASS NPLFC STARS OF MASS WEST UNITEDFC WESTCHESTER ELITE 04 NAVYFC WESTCHESTER ELITE QUICKSTRIKE FC ELITE (AKA FC WESTCHESTER ELITE 02)FCUSA COASTAL IMPACTFSA FC U14 GIRLS ELITEGPS MA BOSTON ELITE GU14GPS MA METRO NORTH ELITE GU14HAMDEN SOCCER GINGA FC GINGA FC U14 GIRLSLIVERPOOL FSC G2001 REDSMATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNLMATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NE NPLNEFC ELITE U14 GIRLSNEFC PREMIER NORTH U14 GIRLSNEW ENGLAND RUSH G01-02 RUSHNEW YORK SC G01PDA DRAGONSPLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORMRAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02SACHEMS FC SFC 01/02G WHITESEACOAST UNITED ELITE -CS- 01/02SJEB '01G NPLSMITHTOWN KICKERS SC EAST MEADOW NPL SMITHTOWN STARSSOUTH SHORE SELECT U14 ELITESTA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01STARS OF MASS NH UNITEDVALEO FC REIGNWORLD CLASS FC '01 ECNLWORLD CLASS FC '01HAMM NPL
My Stars predictions - not very far from SpiritF1Albertson ECNLBoston ECNLEast Meadow ECNLFC Stars ECNLMatch Fit ECNLNEFC ElitePDA ECNLWorld Class ECNLF2BaysideFC Stars NorthNEFC PremierNYSCPDA DragonsSeacoastSouth ShoreSTA NPLHow bad did I mess up?
Did your daughter get a club discount for that last post?No, she pays full tuition but she is likely to get a tuition discount to a great university in about 4 years.
8:39- good attempt.
How do you keep South Shore out of F1? Although Albertson is ECNL they don't belong there.
Because they were F2 at PDA and didn't place. I'm not going to place them in F1 just because they are national league. Albertson had some quality games in a tough pre-ECNL league. It was just my shot without studying anything.Gs Top 1003 NEFC ELITE U14 GIRLS8 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U14 ELITE11 STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 0128 NEW YORK SC G0135 FC STARS OF MASS WEST UNITED43 EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ62 WORLD CLASS FC '01 ECNL71 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU14 ECNL78 SJEB '01G NPL80 SEACOAST UNITED ELITE -CS- 01/0281 ALBERTSON FURY '01 ECNL89 RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '0293 NEFC PREMIER NORTH U14 GIRLS97 HAMDEN SOCCER GINGA FC GINGA FC U14 GIRLSGS 101 - 1000101 PDA DRAGONS107 SMITHTOWN KICKERS SC EAST MEADOW NPL118 GPS MA METRO NORTH ELITE GU14129 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL132 FC STARS OF MASS ECNL133 BEACHSIDE SC CT BEACHSIDE137 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NE NPL176 FC BOSTON BBA NORTH U14 ELITE179 CSU U14G NEP ELITE185 BAYSIDE FC BOLTS NPL RED 01/02189 FC BOSTON BBA GU14 WEST ROYAL240 STARS OF MASS NH UNITED253 FC BOSTON BBA GU14 ROYAL280 EURO UNITED FC EURO UNITED 2001G380 FCUSA COASTAL IMPACT404 FC STARS OF MASS NPL413 FC BOSTON BBA GU14 NPL507 FC STARS OF MASS CENTRAL UNITED548 FC WESTCHESTER ELITE QUICKSTRIKE FC ELITE682 FSA FC U14 GIRLS ELITE852 GPS MA BOSTON ELITE GU14978 WORLD CLASS FC '01HAMM NPL
If these tourney directors were smart for FC Stars and Spirit they would just group the ECNL teams in a bracket alone and everyone else bracketed by GS points. Isn't that what ECNL is doing already privatizing there league and not using I call not the best ranking system but it is still liable functioning ranking system until something better overtakes it. LOL
Where is my FC Stars promo guy?10:35 I agree with you -but they still need to look at it - you can't have teams traveling 7 hours possibly for non-competitive games. For example Jersey Shore Boca is a nice team GS has them as #49 - the #49 team in the country doesn't lose 8-0 & 6-0 to ECNL teams.maybe they lose but a 14-0 scoreline well it's good for them they get the experience,but is it fair for the team winning by that result?Anyway Spirit by GSTop 1008 South Shore Select U14 Elite (New)10 Penn Legacy FC 01 Black18 CESC Calvert CREW White24 NJ Wildcats Averbuch-NPL27 PA Classics PA Classics Academy 0132 1776 United FC Xtreme39 Yardley Makefield Soccer YMS Banshees44 Medford SC Hurricanes49 Jersey Shore BOCA Jr FC Fusion54 HMMS Eagle FC 01 SPIRIT60 Rage SC '01 Athletica64 Ukrainian Nationals Blasters Black70 PDA Shore Fusion71 Boston breakers Academy GU14 ECNL78 SJEB '01G NPL79 Hulmeville SC Dynamo81 Albertson Soccer Club Fury '01 ECNL82 Braddock Road YC 01 Elite90 Atletico FC Atletico FC Girls '0194 Pipeline Soccer Club BlackGS 101 - 1000144 NJCSA NJCSA Elite163 Penn Fusion SA '01G ECNL170 Penn Fusion SA '01G NPL172 Harford FC United Thunder173 Continental FC ECNL '01200 ISA 01 NPL278 Thistle Comets286 FC Berna Legacy 01G288 Wyoming Valley SC (Travel Club) WVSC '01Girls324 Players Development Academy Ajax378 HFC Ready '01397 Continental FC NPL '01F417 TBAA Premier Strykers475 Haddonfield SC Lightning531 Ocean Township United SA Hurricanes577 Aztec Soccer Girls 01 NPL595 LDC United Attack607 Ukrainian Nationals Blasters Red637 North Union United 01F Wave833 Philadelphia SC Coppa Blue Storm836 Wall SC Wave851 PA Rush PA Rush 01886 Warrington Soccer Club FC Bombers
Thanks for those rankings. Needed a laugh this morning.
11:04 Anytime - I laughed also when I was putting it together. How some teams are disorganized and can't even stay on top of their team accounts but they are great at teaching our kids soccer. Yup some really funny stuff.EM has 2 accountsWC has 2 accountsPDA Storm has 2 accounts and 1 is U15.
The ECNL clubs don't care about GS. GS is for EDP teams.EM and PDA focus on soccer. PDA's second, third and fourth teams beat the "#24 ranked team in the country" LOL.
Focus on Soccer?How many tournaments does PDA play in a year?EDP teams play in league games just like they do and they also play in approx 8 tournaments for about the same amount of money? Yup sounds like they focus on soccer.PS. Who even cares about wins at this age if your focus is on soccer?Sounds like you want to be a top GS team since you talk wins but your club doesn't and it kills you that you are paying all that money and not even ranked in the top 100 because your kids team doesn't play in the same amount of games because they use all that money to focus on soccer (18 x 2000 = $36,000), I'm sure it's a little moreFC Stars cares about GS - "Stars Cup is rated as a Premier Elite Tournament by GotSoccer, #1 in New England and #5 in the nation for girls tournaments " from their website - So I guess GS doesn't bother this ECNL club.
This is the last year FC stars will report scores to GS.
The train is moving and you seem to be waving from the platform.
EM and PDA focus on soccer. East Meadow, hahaha. I thought they only focused on hair-pulling, shirt-grabbing, and various other dubious tactics to win games. Sorry, must of confused them with someone else, my bad, carry-on.
FC Stars Promo guy here, so what do you think?Better than Spirit, yes?I agree, and thanks for your support!
Hey FC promo guy, I'm assuming you have seen all the teams play that are in Spirit to make that claim, you are not using GS to compare are you?12:56 Yes and I will be waiving to the train as it leaves just like I'm trying to get you ECNL guys to the ECNL board and leave us GS fools alone on this board - go ahead I won't cry. You really believe the ECNL is the only way? You obviously don't follow soccer much. The DA is up and running on the boys side and has attracted the best players. But guess what EDP and other leagues like that are not dead, they thrive and you know what the Lamar Hunt Open Cup just did? they opened their doors for every team to play for the cup "Effective immediately, any team that wishes to participate and belongs to a club or league of any Organization Member of U.S. Soccer, competes in a league with at least four teams where each team plays at least ten league games and meets other criteria, may enter Open Division qualifying (required for all entrants outside of the Division I, II or III professional leagues) by submitting an application form and entry fee to U.S. Soccer headquarters. U.S. Soccer will then arrange matches, process rosters for approval, appoint match commissioners and officiating crews, administer discipline, promote the games in advance and their results afterwards, and provide a clear link to the final tournament, which will tentatively begin May 11, 2016. Previously, the individual amateur governing bodies (U.S. Adult Soccer Association, US Club Soccer, U.S. Specialty Sports Association, and the USASA - affiliated National Premier Soccer League and Premier Development League) determined their own qualification processes independently of the others."See you later train
To 424 the "See You Later" guy. You cannot compare Boy's and Girl's programs just yet they are no where near each other in comparison. Boy's have adopted the Calendar year for there Academy clubs for years now and girls are still in transitional talks based on a document that was published to clubs. Yes I agree there are different paths but if you had a choice of a better path which one would you choose, I'm assuming the better one. I know there are reasons why or why not but the parents that choose the ECNL path are just giving there child the opportunities. Again I wish you luck on your endeavor and I also do not like trains I take plane rides. lol
4:24, Yeah, I have seen none of those teams, but I have seen my kids team play, and they are pretty good, and since they are not going to Spirit (we can’t find directions) we will settle for FC Stars. P.S. I could care less about FC Stars of Mass, or any team from Mass. To be honest was not impressed with their soccer, was looking for more.What team are you with dude, Penn Lethargic?
Actually, we have played 10 of those teams, but who’s counting?
4:24 don't get me wrong I love the ECNL. But ECNL is the girls DA just not officially yet. Of course everyone would choose ECNL if kid is playing you would be crazy not to. But to say the train is leaving and waive see you later to it like any child's soccer career that isn't on that train is over - well that rubs me the wrong way. Is GS the real deal - hell NO but it's fun and if I'm paying for my kid to learn and play soccer I want to have fun since I'm paying anyway - it just goes into a different wallet. I'm going to have fun on this board and with GS.PS. I hate MLS and it's closed door it's just like the ECNL.My heroes the USSF just took the first step to creating a true open sport. Amateur teams can now compete and maybe play against the pros for the same title. Will the pros play their A team probably not but they will get punished by the media if they don't win, just like an ECNL will get punished if they don't win at FC Stars with their A team.:) Penn Lethargic :) love it
4:56, its me 4:40, and I totally agree, GS is fun, nothing more. My daughter likes to know how they rank, but it doesn’t help them win games. I help them win games, because I drive her and her teammates to practice! Our club is not an ECNL club, but they have applied, not sure our opponents will allow this, but you never know. Until then, we are an NPL team, and we have enough on our plate. Good luck!
Yeah, 4:40 my kid also likes to look at it and compare her team's score with her friend's team. It's innocent and fun for them. She understand now how her team accumulates points and always asks if they moved ahead or are still ahead of her friend after every tournament.So yes I have fun with it - and to to think that some clubs actually are SO PRO or SON CON is to comical. As you said GS is fun and nothing more. I am so happy my kid didn't play a PDA event and won, I would then have to explain why they never got points because the club is trying to prove a point that GS is bad for soccer, not the coaches that abuse GS but the actual tool, like the tool made me do it.
Is ECNL the only route? No. But why not give your the toughest challenges and best opportunities? USWNT U18s announced its roster yesterday.... 17/20 are from ECNL clubs. Am i suggesting that all ECNL players are USWNT pool worthy? absolutely not. but doesn't a league that has such a large representation at the highest level have to be stronger than any other league. I'm sure some of you ECNL haters will find a way to disagree... but any way you look at it, 17/20 is impressive and presents a strong case for the ECNL.
Who's disagreeing? I'm just saying okay good for those kids and why do I have to read that when it's a given. It's the unofficial girls DA so why do you want to compare it to anything it wouldn't be apples to apples.All I'm saying is that these MF vs PDA posts should go to the ECNL board - so all you guys can talk about how great the league is and how much everyone is a clown for chasing GS points.I love the fact that i can follow 16 NPLS, Region 1 CL, National League and NCS State cups. Why do I have to read they are all second rate leagues because the ECNL teams are not in them? Why? There are thousands of players with thousands of teams -I know they don't matter to you. But they do to me.
You are not understanding the status symbol culture critical to the ECNL or the ECNL marketing machine. For the ECNL business owners, it is no use hard selling a product to people that have already bought it. For the ECNL parents, it is no fun having the ECNL status symbol if you can only brag to other ECNL parents.So we are all stuck with the relentless pollution from the ECNL in every forum age group.
All these Acronyms in Youth Soccer makes me feel like I'm learning a new language. lolJust enjoy watching your daughter and her team play the fun will not last to long and the average drop out rate is over 50%. Let me ask a public question if your daughter so calls plays in the ECNL league do they bother playing other sports?
9:33 My daughter plays for The New York Soccer Club, and she only plays one sport, no time for anything else. She loves it, as do I...and we are happy together.
Why isn't CRUSH playing at stars? What happened to the team that played 12 tournaments a year? Did you guys burn out early?
Yes, of course it's marketing, but not really to get players for the ECNL teams.It's mostly marketing to the larger market share that will never be amonog the 12-14 top players on the ECNL Team that get major minutes and get exposure.It's for all the others among us who they want to fill the spots to load up their B, C and D Teams, at 22 players or more per team and collect all those dues which allows the club to not only bring in major bucks but also fund scholarships for the top ECNL players who they recruit by offering to let them play for free or discounted dues.It kind of like a Pyramid.
11:42- What if the B.C and D teams are very good and beat teams that claim to be anti ECNL clubs?
9:33 -- My Daughter also plays basketball.ECNL clubs do give breaks. Actually my duaghters team got more of a break then some non ECNL teams. Also, some of the Non ECNL teams we know actually ended up paying more then we did on an ECNL team because of all the travel they did. We are friends with parents from non ECNL teams and so is my daughter.
does anyone know when the Spirit schedule or even bracketing will come out?
The boys' flights were available this past weekend, and they play the week before the girls, so I would guess the girls will be available this coming weekend. For anyone that it applies to or anyone else who may care, they actually included the girls u15 brackets in the boy's flights so you can take a sneak peak.
11:42, what club are you talking about dude? What clubs are anti-ECNL?
11:57, why don’t you tell us what club, its okay, no one will tell your DOC that you are on here, its okay, its going to be okay.
Look lets get something straight the only thing that's "ANTI" are the ECNL clubs vs GS per this board. GS want to include them.No club is "anti" ECNL most would want in just like every NASL teams wants into the MLS, but you still have your "COSMOS" of the world that don't and the MLS still wants to be a closed league with no pro/rel just like the ECNL.Read the previous posts only anti comments besides your PDA/MF drama are anti GS
How is FC Bucks ECNL team did they lose or gain girls?
I will post on this site regarding ECNL, NPL and ODP . This is a U14 blog, blogging will be done regarding ECNL for ever!
Please - keep ECNL hereWe should all be ptoud of those teams, whether we aspire there or not.
Sorry I meant to say we are all sick of them!
Sorry this blog will be changed to 2001 blog by next year so does it really matter. lol
Does anyone know when the JAAGS schedule is being posted?
Hello,My daughter plays in another state, not New Jersey. And in this state we have 2 regions, NYW and NYE, was wondering what y’all think about who would win, this here game, sorry, but serious guesses only.EUSA EMPIRE UNITED ROCHESTER 01/02http://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/team.aspx?TeamID=543953&History=yes&compact=NEW YORK SC G01http://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/team.aspx?teamid=582374
Well...Once club is known in these parts, the other unknown.So how "serious" a guess you can make is debatable.
If I HAD to lay down some credits, I would take the EUSA side. When and where do you foresee this soccer event occurring?
US Club vs. USYS, should be a good game, I’ll take the New York team!
11:47... What if your D team comes in 7 th place in a watered down league. Thanks for the donation.
who said they were not good teams? It is the marketing and bragging juggernaut that is tiresome.
EDP1st Division NorthNJ WILDCATS GALAXY (NJ)JERSEY UNITED SOCCER SPARTANS 01/02G NPL (NJ)JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH (NJ)NJCSA ELITE (NJ)TSF ACADEMY 01/02G (NJ)BEACHSIDE SC CT BEACHSIDE (CT)RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02 (NYE)HBC SPARK (NYE) 1st Division Central UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK (PAE)NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ)REAL SOUNDERS (NJ)NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE (NJ)LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (PAE)PDA SHORE FUSION (NJ)SJEB '01G NPL (NJ)FC COPA ACADEMY G01 NPL (NJ) 1st Division South RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA (PAE)PHILADELPHIA SC COPPA BLUE STORM (PAE)PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)MD RUSH MONTGOMERY RUSH '01G (MD)SAC PREMIER BLUE (MD)PIPELINE BLACK (MD)CESC CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)BETHESDA STORM 01 (MD)
EDP 2nd Division North PERFECT TOUCH SA GIRLS 01-02 (NYE)THISTLE COMETS (NJ)FC BERNA LEGACY 01G (NJ)MERCER FC SPURS (NJ)STA MORRIS UNITED 01 (NJ)NIRVANA FC (NYE)SDFC SAMBA (NJ)SABA BROOKLYN CITY (NYE)LAGRANGE RAGE (NYE) 2nd Division Central STATEN ISLAND UNITED HOTSHOTS (NYE)WALL SC WAVE (NJ)OCEAN TOWNSHIP UNITED SA HURRICANES (NJ)REAL SHORE LAKEWOOD FC CREW (NJ)WYOMING VALLEY SC (TRAVEL) WVSC '01GIRLS (PAE)JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION (NJ)NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI (NJ)FREEHOLD SL FREEDOM (NJ) 2nd Division South HFC READY '01 (PAE)WASHINGTON UNITED FEVER '02 (NJ)SAC CLASSIC 1 (MD)PHWM SC PUMAS (MD)HAMILTON ELITE FC - ACADEMY AVALANCHE (NJ)NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS GREY (NJ)SEVP BLACK THUNDER (MD)
MAPS Elite North NHP WILDCATS LADY JAGUARS (NYE)EDISON UNITED SA LIGHTNING BOLTS (NJ)WESTFIELD SA FC PREMIER COLOCCINI (NJ)SCP PHOENIX (NJ)FC WESTCHESTER ELITE 02) (NYE)MT OLIVE SC BLIZZARD (NJ)FSC FOUNDATION SC (CT)FCUSA NEW JERSEY 01/02 GIRLS (NJ)U.S. PARMA ATTACCANTI (NJ) Maps Elite Central CTR MSA COMETS BLUE (NJ)ROBBINSVILLE SA BLAST (NJ)MEDFORD STRIKERS SOUL (NJ)UPPER 90 FURY (PAE)NLSA FUSION (NJ)BUCKINGHAM UNITED SC BANSHEES (PAE)MONROE TOWNSHIP SC NJM ELITE (NJ)MERCER FC EVERTON (NJ)MOUNT LAUREL UNITED FURY (NJ) MAPS Elite South HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)ALLIANCE SC ARSENAL (MD)PIPELINE SC RED (MD)1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE)LTSC STRIKERS 01/02 (PURPLE) (MD) MAPS HUB SOCCER OF DENVILLE LIGHTNING (NJ)NJ ELITE FUSION (NJ)JERSEY CREW SC LEOPARDS (NJ)NJCSA MILLENNIUM (USA)WAYNE ISTA ELITE (NJ)NJ STALLIONS ACADEMY TEMPEST (NJ)NY ELITE MUDSKIPPERS (NYE)WORLD CLASS FC '01 (NYE)
Did EDP make a mistake with 1776 & Harford United so far down? Should they be at least D2?
The Mudskippers?Gotta love it.
Even EDP first division teams look to be on the weak side. Not impressive at all.
North - Projected 6,000#75 NJ WILDCATS GALAXY#89 RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02#112 HBC SPARK #114 GPS NJ FLASH U14G ELITE#128 TSF ACADEMY 01/02GCentral - Projected 8,500#22 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL#44 REAL SOUNDERS#64 UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK#70 PDA SHORE FUSION#78 SJEB '01G NPLSouth - Projected 6,677#9 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK#16 CESC CALVERT CREW WHITE#60 RAGE SC '01 ATHLETICA#94 PIPELINE BLACK#490 MD RUSH MONTGOMERY RUSH '01GGreat to see PAE teams - you guys are going to rack up some GS points this fall and then again in the Spring
Agreed. Looks like Legacy and Calvert will present the only somewhat decent match.
ECNL#62 WORLD CLASS FC '01 ECNL#130 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL#157 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL #174 CONTINENTAL FC ECNL '01#201 FC BUCKS ESPRIT ECNL#249 PDA 01G PRE-ECNL#71 FC BOSTON BBA GU14 ECNL#81 ALBERTSON FURY '01 ECNL#133 FC STARS OF MASS ECNL#196 FSA FC U14 GIRLS ECNL 01#299 EAST MEADOW 01G PRE-ECNL#2324 CONNECTICUT FC 01 PRE-ECNLNorthEast NPL#101 PDA NORTH NPL DRAGONS#107 SMITHTOWN KICKERS SC EAST MEADOW NPL#138 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NE NPL#170 PENN FUSION SA '01G NPL#302 FSA FC U14 GIRLS NPL 01#398 CONTINENTAL FC NPL '01F #405 FC STARS OF MASS NPL#414 FC BOSTON BBA GU14 NPL#668 PDA SOUTH 01 NPL#765 CONNECTICUT FC 01 NPL#982 WORLD CLASS FC '01HAMM NPL1057 FC BUCKS FURY NPL
9:35- great job listing the divisions and projected values. I think they all look pretty balanced. It's a great opportunity for teams to play good games and accumulate GS points. Predictions:North TSFCentral- Real SoundersSouth- Penn Legacy.
Who are real sounders?Is that a new name for a team that has been around?
I wouldn't be so quick to say PL is going to walk through the South Division. Other teams have tryouts and gained new players, while Pl has lost three of their better ones. Top three will be:1.Calvert2.Rage Athletica3.Penn LegacySame with the other PA teams in the other divisions. Maybe 1776 will be on top, but nobody else is that impressive
But PL picked up to very good players. Still at a roster of 16 strong!
11:27Not sure why you think(or hope) Legacy lost its top players, simply not the case. What PL "lost" is a good bit of drama. What they picked up is a solid ODP defender and another regional team player. All in all a better squad now than they were 12 monthes ago. Don't know about Calvert, but your prediction of Rage being better shows you know very little.
11:27 - that is funny putting Rage or even Calvert in front of PL. PL left PAGS because it was really to easy and now it looks like the league they went to is going to be a cake walk for them. Also, 1776 is right where they should be. They will probably win and that is what those parents want. Then they can say how good they are, even if they really do not play anyone. 6:35 - " A solid ODP Defender" I think we all know that EPA ODP is a joke. A lot , if not most , of the top girls do not even do it. Most of these teams probably picked up a few girls and only time will tell if the teams gel and are better.
@951- The Real Sounders is Medford's top team.
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6:58Sorry if your daughter didn't make the cut, but no need to be bitter! Look, even with its flaws ODP is still a worthwhile endeavor in PA. I have watched the best ECNL team from PA play 4-5 times last year and both the 2001 & 2002 ODP teams play on numerous occasions and can promise you the top 18 ODP players at either age would take apart all 3 ECNL teams. Besides, alot of the "top girls" you reference at this age are so because they are bigger, faster, and stronger. That will change quickly over the next year as everyone else catches up and skill and soccer IQ will determine the elite, not their ability to run over smaller girls. I think the ODP coaches recognize that better than your average club coaches. Making the OPD squad is still a good achievement, but disparage it if you must.
7:35 that's reckless and silly. First that's not public knowledge so it's still a work in progress. PS. I would love for spirit to keep them that way it's easy and everyone knows where they stand.
Wow ... All the ECNl teams in the 2nd tier. I guess Spirit went by GotSoccer
Very preliminary spirit flights.... No wat ECNL teams in the 2nd flight. No way Ajax is that far down. Sure these will change a couple of tjmss
yeah PL, look what you are missing - so much better. Hey HMMS I thought you were an EDP Super Club? I guess not. Some of these EDP fall teams are probably doing Region1 RCL like The NJ Wildcats did last year. Great idea play 7 games in EDP and another 6 in RCL, get 13 good games in the fall and rack up EDP & RCL GS points to make sure your team always stays in the top flights and keeps trying for the national leaguePA RUSH '01 PENN UTD FORCE FC '01 YMS Banshees HULMEVILLE Dynamo SCPASA Lady Lions '01 WARRINGTON FC FC BombersHMMS Eagle FC Spirit LDC UNITED Attack PA CLASSICS Academy 01 FC REVOLUTION Force
You see PL I can show love also - I was accused of having issues with them a few months ago because I thought they weren't a F1 team at a tournament.
You lose any shred of credibility when you claim that the 2001 or 2002 ODP teams could "take apart" ECNL teams. My daughter's middle school team could beat either of those ODP teams. There, now we've both posted something equally ridiculous.
9:01 So you are say FC Bucks and CFC Delco are super solid teams as is PF? Is that your claim? No disrespect to the teams but 2 of the 3 still have alot of work to do.The problem with PAE ODP teams as they try to build balanced teams at 2001, instead of just putting the best players on one team. I guess we see that this year with only one team being formed. Did other states do the same for VA friendlies or the NJ ODP event? or did they make true A teams and B teams?
All 3 have work to do. However if your opinion of a team, any team, including EPA ODP is going to be based on whether or not they can beat FC Bucks, then you've got me there.
If these flights are final - BRAVO to spirit - finally an event that just said we are going to use the tool the way it was built flights built straight up on rankings. No opinions - except giving their team the nod for F2 (which is okay because all they did was swap 172 with 173 as host in my opinion). I hope they don't change nothing and other tournaments do the same. Stars, WAGS, Behtesda, Jefferson & Delco let's see what you do? Do you kiss some big club ass or do you reward the small guys that worked hard and earned their way by playing in a bunch of tournaments or flat out just placing in the tournaments and leagues they played in. If this is the new norm EDP and RCL you guys will do well attracting teams. Just one yahoos opinion. Wow sucks to be an NPL team for a ECNL club that hates GS. Unfortunately, they still need these tournaments, well at least you know where you stand.F18 South Shore Select U14 Elite (New)44 Medford SC Hurricanes49 Jersey Shore BOCA Jr FC Fusion10 Penn Legacy FC 01 Black39 Yardley Makefield Soccer YMS Banshees54 HMMS Eagle FC 01 SPIRIT18 CESC Calvert CREW White32 1776 United FC Xtreme60 Rage SC '01 Athletica24 NJ Wildcats Averbuch-NPL27 PA Classics PA Classics Academy 0164 Ukrainian Nationals Blasters BlackF270 PDA Shore Fusion94 Pipeline Soccer Club Black144 NJCSA NJCSA Elite71 Boston breakers Academy GU14 ECNL90 Atletico FC Atletico FC Girls '01163 Penn Fusion SA '01G ECNL78 SJEB '01G NPL82 Braddock Road YC 01 Elite170 Penn Fusion SA '01G NPL79 Hulmeville SC Dynamo81 Albertson Soccer Club Fury '01 ECNL173 Continental FC ECNL '01
The original comment was made about PA ODP teams beating PA ECNL teams - you must have misunderstood it,I just put my 2 cents in to try and clear it up -not trying to get you.
8:25- There is a difference between "doing" or "competing" in Region 1 RCL. Wildcats drove up and down the East Coast and got crushed coming in 5th place.I agree it's vital for these teams to collect GS points to stay relevant but at what cost?
9:01I said the top 18 players from EITHER ODP age could take apart the any of the 3 PA ECNL teams. 9:14 is right though, I'm talking the top 18 players at each, not just some random group. Again I've watched PL beat both PF and CFC 5-1 and 3-0. And I can tell you there are 18 girls on each age who as a team are at least as good if not better as a group than PL.
Surprised to see NJC tsunami in second bracket of edp and not playing anymore tournaments. Is this team breaking up and or did they lose that many players? Next year age group change will effect teams like this even more and you will see many more drop off like them.
929 I agree Kudos to Spirit for rebalancing the landscape of tournament brackets at U14 it's the right thing to do to use the software. Of course this will hurt those top teams playing in top bracket if they don't place 0 points in a pre-season tourney can hurt you for the tourney's come fall.
9:29 - If you look at u15g for spirit you will see only CFC and Bucks ECNL/NPL teams. So who needs these tourneys? I think the EDP/RCL teams need them because soon there will be no ECNL/NPL teams in these tourneys.
9:34 at the same cost most teams that want to be top teams pay. Can't replace the experience, if your kid was lucky enough to travel to an event they qualified for and spend some days in a city they will never visit just to play soccer and spend time with friends/teammates regardless of the cost ($$) Isn't that why we do this as parents?The teams that have no desire skip -FC Frederick qualified for national league but must have opted out as they were replaced.
If Fc Stars Follows - which they won'tECNl Flight3 NEFC ELITE U14 GIRLS71 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU14 ECNL81 ALBERTSON FURY '01 ECNL132 FC STARS OF MASS ECNL43 EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ62 WORLD CLASS FC '01 ECNL91 PDA STORM (U15)129 MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNLf18 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U14 ELITE93 NEFC PREMIER NORTH U14 GIRLS97 HAMDEN SOCCER GINGA FC GINGA FC U14 GIRLS11 STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 0189 RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02101 PDA DRAGONS28 NEW YORK SC G0180 SEACOAST UNITED ELITE -CS- 01/02107 SMITHTOWN KICKERS SC EAST MEADOW NPL35 FC STARS OF MASS WEST UNITED78 SJEB '01G NPL118 GPS MA METRO NORTH ELITE GU14
PL idiot, your delusional and soon to be a distant thought. Cheers!
9:37 you do understand that's their "B" team right?Their A team is the NPL team and is currently ranked #3 in NJ behind STA and NJ Wildcats by GS.
9:51- Who says I really want to visit an obscure place in WV and Indiana this summer? I want to use 2 weeks vacation and spend 5K experiencing this.Coach tells them they can't swim, have to be in bed early. That means a parent also has to be in the room early. Yeah, 13 yr old girls love these trips. Parents and players don't decide to go. The club does $$$$! Coaches travel for free. IF they do win, the club posts it on their website to validate their existence. No thanks. I would rather take my family to Europe, the beach, Disney, a cruise, etc.
10:23 continued.... The best part.. Look at poor MF ECNL. This team makes it to the finals and gets mocked for playing horrible soccer.
Even if you did want to do the travel why do you have your kids game posted on you tube? To what end? Just an invitation for ugly internet abuse. If I ever caught my kid making some of the ugly comments I read on these forums she would have a serious consequence.
Just to clarify, US Club posted the video to their YouTube account, because it was the u13 final, and you don't get a choice, and that is not the ECNL team, it is the NPL team aka MFNJX.
10:23 Then why are you on a message board for u14 "TRAVEL" soccer - where do you think they travel to? Sounds like you should pull your kid out of soccer and go enjoy your life traveling.PS. Why does the coach have to tell them that? It should be the parents, no? At the end of the day everybody is spending money for them to play soccer and try to win, aren't' they? the kids need to know what they can't and can't do before games as athletes.That is the problem -you look at this team like some rec team. Truth is they are a college track team and will do what's best for the players on the team. If you don't want to travel - leave and be done with it find another team that doesn't travel as much and enjoy your vacations.Sounds like a bad situation for your family. Don't take this the wrong way
9:29 are you really that much of a moron to actually think that's a deserving F1? Oh wait "don't change nothin." You are.
10:58- Thats pretty funny. Glad to see your getting a good "signal" from the rest area bathroom.!
Wow, so you're saying teams that qulaify for NPL nationals and Region 1 Tournament should not attend as it is a waste of time.I thought these events are what we are trying to reach after a successful season.And you say Indianapolis was an obscure place?We all hung out and ate at nice restaurants downtown and walked around and checked out the shops as there was only 1 game per day and we had plenty of time to explore the city.And you say the girls playing at that awesome venue(all Bermuda Grass and field turf fields) wasa waste of time and money. And becasue it was held in West Virginia getting to play in the Region 1 Tournament was also a waste of time.Are you saying it would havbe been better to not qualify and instead play in summer tournaments and spend the same time and money?It seems you are letting your hate get in the way of making any sense.
Does nj crush honestly think they are number three in NJ? shows what a joke GS is and how some people buy into it.Probably on their website too...
Of coarse GS is a joke! It's a matter of accepting it and then laughing it off.
Well if NJ Crush accumulated points that's and that's there place. Again what Spirit did was right let those teams chasing points stay on top because when they come out of the tourney without points they move down the GS ladder. Again using the software at this age group is the right thing as many of these teams have been accumulating points the past year with the same players on the team. Many a those teams probably only lost 2 or 3 players but let them enjoy their success.
11:37 No GS has them at #3 that's not an opinion like what you think of GS is.They are number 3 according to GS as of today that's a fact. Does it hurt that much? We all know it's a joke but yet you still need to say it,so why are you saying it? "TROLL"?11:44 We can't - because it's to black and white and of course some teams are NOT ranked very high by their own choice.
I believe the Spirit will be changing their brackets around. Clubs will complain and things will get changed.
the New Jersey TOP 5 according to GS. Does it hurt a lot seeing this? 1 STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 012 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL3 NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 01 NPL4 REAL SOUNDERS5 JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSIONRegion 1 ECNL TOP 51 FC VIRGINIA ECNL 012 WORLD CLASS FC '01 ECNL3 FC BOSTON BBA GU14 ECNL4 ALBERTSON FURY '01 ECNL5 BETHESDA SC EXPRESS ECNL 01
People, that's not the Spirit flights! It hasn't been posted yet! Take a look at the teams in F1 and F2 above. Do you honesty think they would base flights off of GS points? They aren't that stupid. Just this past weekend PF beat HMMS 5-0. Breakers F2? Do you really think that's accurate? Come on.
I love how 10:07 bashes PL and other teams and yet hides behind the anonymous tag. Is your daughters team that bad? Is this the only place where you can feel good about soccer anymore? PA Guy 2
@9:49 AMFirst of all, when you say "soon there will be no ECNL/NPL teams in these tourneys", I'm assuming the NPL teams you're referring to are the NE Girls NPL teams of those ECNL teams, and not ALL NPL teams. And if that's the case, I feel very sorry for the girls on those NPL teams because they are not benefitting from living in the shadow of the ECNL teams. Maybe that's why I look down the list of commitments on these ECNL club pages and see some less-than-impressive schools attached to the NPL players. Where is the exposure coming from? Because it's the ECNL players who are filling the rosters of the national teams, and it's the ECNL players who are filling the rosters of major DI programs and most of the better DIII programs. It's not the NPL teams. And with the exception of Dragons and Ajax, who are the NE Girls NPL powerhouses we should be upset to be losing from these tournaments? The fact that you mentioned both ECNL and NPL leads me to believe that your daughter is on one of the NPL teams. And I've said this before, please don't believe that just because your sister is pretty means your getting asked to prom.
Of course we know they are not final and subject to change, No one called them stupid, well I guess you just might have. It's a topic to discuss so what's wrong withit, besides you not feeling where your kid's team would be flighted? I would much rather this tool figure out the flights than say you or I or any person in a room. They put their own team in the same flight as PF, Albertson and Boston all 4 are ECNL teams, does it really matter that they are not in F1?
PDA Ajax should move to Flight 1 let them duel out for those GS points. As for the 2nd bracket I like that they grouped the ECNL clubs together gives a few of those ECNL/NPL teams a chance to see since many of those teams probably had a good turnover from last year.
Spirit has no flights posted. Not sure where these so called flights are coming from. Signing as PA Guy 2 doesn't quite make you any less anonymous. Might as well just put PL dad though.
CFC does belong in flight 2. Whoever created that list is way off and you'll see that shortly. I would imagine the flights will be posted this weekend.
It appears they just put teams in order based on GS points as a starting spot. Is that right?
"Spirit has no flights posted. Not sure where these so called flights are coming from. "I love how this doofus first makes a definitive statement and then in the next breath he admits he has no clue what he's talking about. Someone actually posted a link to where these brackets are on the kickoff classic website. If you're too stupid to follow the link, just keep your mouth closed instead of demonstrating your ignorance.Now of course, these are unofficial and will change, as numerous people have stated. And as someone else has gone through and shown, all Spirit has done so far is populate the brackets in strict GS order. So as of now, these flights are just good for showing what a tournament field of good teams would look like if ranked solely by points, and to show the first step in how Spirit sets up its flights. It may not matter to you, but for those of use interested in this topic and who have no game results to discuss this early in the season, it's a fun starting point for a conversation.
I realize it is a starting point but it is interesting that they start in GS order. Obviously they will move things around but it does show that GS has a place on the equation.
2:22 thanks for calling me a doofus. My 11 year uses that term too. We will see just how much of a doofus I am when he actual flights are posted.
234 Hello Goofy, here is the link again.http://www.gotsport.com/asp/directors/tournament/vieweventteamscleanb.asp?EventID=43835&Group=Girls_14
PDA Ajax doesn't deserve that billing anymore - their GS score made them part of the conversation in the past even though they are a .500 team. They no longer have that feather. They finished 4th in their league I think.
240 PDA Ajax should of gotten better like most teams have, additional player pick up will put them right back there. They also finished 3rd in the Northeast NPL league below Match Fit and PDA North. So the argument is since they did not attend enough GS point events including the non-GS PDA tournament in which they lost by 1 goal vs. many of the Top bracket teams in Spirit they are downgraded to 3rd bracket. Just because CFC is the host they deserve the 2 bracket. I'm sure things will change within the week.
I really hope they don't. Since your bring PDA Ajax, I'm sure a few teams had turnover, is it Spirit's job to know all of this,every team's roster and if the changes are for the better or not? This board posts that PDA doesn't care about GS and this is why the PDA tournament was removed. So what right does PDA Ajax have to demand a higher flight when they don't have the GS rank to support it or you expect Spirit to say you finished in 3rd in one of the lowest ranked NPLs per because you guys are sloppy (Ajax has 2 accounts) - you made your bed now sleep in it.
Who did Ajax pick up? Not necessarily names, but from where? And what positions?
Who cares, can you tell me how many teams added players that are playing in spirit? How do you expect anyone to be able to use inside info without having inside info for everyone?PDA Shore F2PDA Ajax F3I really hope they don't change a thing.Give teams like Boca and Real NJ a shot, they played in their events and placed. Why does the little guy always get pushed aside because the big guy thinks it's his right?
It's pre-season fellas, if this is the reaction for the 1st major event it's going to be a fun ride all year long. lol
fun for sure, can't wait for the games to start
So everyone is saying if PDA's ECNL team applied(Rank #250, 4950 GS points) and were to play in the Spirit tourney they would be flight 3 also. Come on people the tournament committee for these majors are a little smarter and things will change. Inside info or not many know ECNL/NPL clubs always seem to attract and get better.
PDA wouldn't risk entering Storm into this tournament and having to play top non ECNL teams. They will stick to FC Stars and likely play in an ECNL only division. They'll send a couple ringers to play with Ajax though, but they'll deny it of coarse. And if they don't happen to win at Stars they'll claim they were just giving their subs some minutes and tournaments don't matter to them. You know, just like last year!
349 Great Observation, where is FC Buck's and MatchFit's ECNL and NPL squads are they at risk and afraid to play non-ECNL clubs at Spirit also.
2:37 If you see that link as accurate or final then your intelligence matches your maturity very well.
3:40 you are missing the point no one cares about Storm or PDA ECNL why would they, it's not like they will ever play. It's a GS world and PDA doesn't want to play in it so see you later and good luck winning your 'league national event'. ECNL teams are so yesterday or did you guys forget - you are now not in the general population anymore and for that reason I hope Spirit does right by the teams that will continue playing in your event and leave all the ECNL teams as F2, since they will only use the event as a warm up. teams come to these events to play the best and if you don't want to treat the event that way by playing your best then you don't get top billing. Flash from the past Calvert beat Storm, storm claimed it was reserve team, so one would think that a reserve team would also play at Spirit and no way they get F1 status. Your turn. I like this debate.
Seriously, we all know the ECNL league play and events are import to the ECNL teams as they should be.But it's crazy talk if you think an ECNL team that uses a NON-ECNL event as a bunch of scrimmages to get reserves minutes and looks should get top billing, then you are the crazy one. remove yourself from the situation. Do you think a team wants to travel 4 hours to play anything but your best? I think you would rather play a team that has had success and smack them around or get smacked around rather than a team that isn't going with it's best against you.PS. we all know the flights aren't final - but I wish they were.
Way too many people living through their kids on this board. That along with lots of jealousy. If you know your kid is good, that she is playing for the best club around you and under a great coach, chances are you aren't a hater on this board. It's the ones not lucky enough to be able to truthfully say that, that hate.
Yes this debate is fun. GS world of chasing points and having fun doing it or World of parents pushing their child to obtain soccer scholarships and potentially becoming a national player. To me GS world along with doing ODP is a much more fun atmosphere. Good bye ECNL been through it with my eldest not worth it 1/4% scholarship wasn't worth the amount of the cost, travel, and non friendly parents.
Why would you wish for the top flight at Spirit to be that weak?
The best non-ECNL team is NEFC and they are at FC Stars.
Actually since NEFC beat FCV wouldn't that make them simply "the best team" , ECNL or Non? Of coarse South Shore who will be at Sourit, beat NEFC and tied them in their 2 meetings last spring, for what it's worth.
4:16 I Disagree, most are not living through their kids - Most are living FOR their kids, besides this has nothing to do with that. This has been the topic for the longest time. U14 is here and so is reality. You have ECNL teams now that treat NON-ECNL events as warm ups - FACTYou have NON-ECNL teams that treat majors as important - FACTDon't tell ECNL teams now want top billing at majors when they are using them as warm ups? Is this what you are saying?
4:20 no one is wishing for a weak top flight - I'm hoping that teams that normally wouldn't get the time a day played in their events and placed in them to get a shot at the top flights. Give them their shot.If they don't place - the teams that place in F2 will move ahead of them at the next major -the perfect soccer world of pro/rel - of course if you were a soccer guy you would understand pro/rel but since that is SO un-american, don't get me started on this one.
The problem is that PDA (or their nutjob parents on this blog, anyway) wants it their way or no way. They don't want GS to mean anything, because they won't be playing in those events and don't want other teams to think they're better than them just because they've accumulated more points. We get it, you're great. And so are a lot of other ECNL teams. And you have your secret society with your secret handshakes where you can go and play other secret society ECNL teams without exposing yourselves to the lesser folks. But with no other measurement than the fact that your names says ECNL, you expect any tournament that you enter to just KNOW that you're great, and that you deserve to be placed in the top bracket. That doesn't apply to all ECNL teams despite how awesome you think your exclusive club is.The previous comment is correct. Let the chips fall where they may with the straight up GS flights. And teams that are currently ranked high will come out of the tournament with no points, and teams that are probably better but flighted lower will win and gain points, and all will be right with the world again. Let it sort itself out.My only suggestion would be to rank based on GS, but using a points-per-event-entered formula to weed out the chasers.
Why are All the ecnl teams in the 2nd flight for spirit??
Now we are talking instead of just pointing and saying it's broke without offering a suggestion.I like that suggestion and have also been saying something similar. Something like a coefficient that the events can use to make their life simple.Spirit what ever you do - won't be right and who cares - I just love the fact that you showed that it could be done and it doesn't look bad. Yes some teams will be lower than they should so they will win and place and at the next major replace a team that was higher and got crushed.NJ Crush NPL and LVU are both hosting events this weekend and should win them easily - but no worries - they will earn very few if any GS points and this would be my problem with a straight average. If they played at spirit and won 10,000 pts their avg would be 5,000 even though they have all their points from one event.
I love the fact that a team that is supposadly a ECNL juggernaut could be placed in the second flight. Said team should win flight handedly and then be placed in the top flight in the next big tourney.Or they do not win the flight(embarresed) and puts the barking of "we are the best" to rest. NO EXCUSES!!!!
Hmm... Think you misspelled a few words. What club are you from? I have a few guesses...
I love this board, its a great break from reality. Speaking of fantasies, the guy who came up with the ECNL Flight at FC Stars should be commended for creativity. So much so, that I had to look-up last years u14 flights, and in doing so, I have concluded that there is no such thing as an ECNL flight, it would be too elitist, even for FC Stars of Mass. There are some teams though, that simply do not belong on the top flight, but I will not disparage them*.*Albertson ECNL and World Class ECNL
Many teams have picked up new players so may take time for girls to gel together. All these beginning tournaments won't mean much its all just the beginning.
That F1 Spirit flight as it stands now look like last years weak PAGS league with a few Jersey teams thrown in. Thankfully my daughters team didn't choose to bother with that one this year! Can't imagine those flights will stand. If they do, that tournament will no longer be credible for top teams.
So 6:11, exactly what words were spelled wrong and what is the correct spelling of those words. Who cares !Blogs are for opinions and debate, not a spelling symposium.Guess what club I am from.
An ECNL flight was not my idea, but "thanks". Actually if you look back a few days you will see a F1 prediction for Stars. I thought I remembered all the teams were ECNL but looking back NEFC was in there too. You will find that certain leagues, ASL comes to mind, play at some tournaments, but their teams play in a dedicated flight, no outsiders. So why is the idea of an ECNL flight fantasy? Call the top 2 Flights "Championship 1" and "Championship 2". Let 1 be for top GS teams who are looking to pick up points and play top competition, let 2 be for ECNL teams, they can play each other for development or whatever they want. Maybe throw in a top NPL team or 2 from the ECNL clubs to round out the bracket. Everybody's happy.
So you like making people happy? If so, I applaud you. Too much negative energy on this board, people need to lighten-up, and check their spelling.
ASL? That league is a few years away from folding. I would not follow their format.
ASL, isn’t that an illness, if not, no wonder its folding, it sounds ill.
If you only have the ECNL teams in their own bracket, they get no exposure to non ECNL teams and vise versa. Mix it up, the best thing about tournaments is getting to play new teams that you do not face in league play.
The best teams should be on the top flight regardless of affiliation. Then the next best, etc. We are not socialist!
6:51Should the best teams be admitted into the best LEAGUE regardless of affiliation then also?
4:13 nailed it. But there's nothing wrong with their daughters playing NPL either, just don't try to sell it as top level play
No because we are Elitists.
I just heard the U15 National Team player from MF has moved over to PDA. How is this not the biggest discussion on this site? Does PDA always get the best players? If it happened to an ECNL team can't it happen to any team?
That's the point, the ECNL teams don't seem to want to just play the best competition they can like the rest of us. They have their own private league,their own private tournaments and showcases, and that's fine. But the rest of us top teams don't want to go to a tournament and play their subs either. Sorry but I would rather see my daughters team play Medfords best than Boston Breakers bench warmers.
6:30 Not you apparently! 6:32 Lol
"The best teams should be on the top flight regardless of affiliation. Then the next best, etc. We are not socialist!"Couldn't agree with you more. BUT - if ECNL teams use these tournaments to test their bench players vs the best NON-ECNL teams -how exactly is that the best team. A reserve team is a reserve team anyway you slice it.So Calvert beat Storm straight up at the EDP event last year?or did they beat Storm's second lineup? So you are saying Storm's second lineup Should be in the top flight based on what their starters do?
To make it real interesting Spirit should have a non-ECNL bracket and ECNL bracket the champions from both play a final with no points just for bragging rights.
I like it!
Spirit flights are already changing
6:56Yes, best teams should be admitted into the best leagues regardless of affiliation. You cannot argue that every league if its ECNL or otherwise has weak teams in it.There are to many leagues and they are all watered down.
It's a league of clubs not teams. Different model that works most of the time. Won't work at every age group. But if it was a league of teams the teams would have to change every year as players come and go and teams get better or worse. ECNL is trying to create a consistent product. Not perfect but seems to be working ok.
EDP is league that try's to get the best teams every year. Each year is very inconsistent. That is not perfect either.
8:00 of coarse they are.... Those joke flights never stood a chance.
8:13 Either you're simply entertaining or your 7...
THE SOCCERLIST POWER CLUBS 1 So Cal Blues (CA-S) 2 San Diego Surf (CA-S) 3 De Anza Force (CA-N) 4 Dallas Sting (TX) 5 Michigan Hawks (MI) 6 Solar Chelsea FC (TX) 7 Tophat (GA) 8 Match Fit Academy (NJ) 9 Real So Cal (CA-N) 10 FC Dallas (TX) 11 Legends FC (CA-S) 12 Real Colorado (CO)) 13 PDA (NJ) 14 West Coast FC (CA-S) 15 Washington Premier (WA)
I think this board is missing a very important point. It makes no sense to have anything but similar level teams in the brackets together - the top teams should be in the top brackets. It would not be in their best interest to have blow out scores which is what you would have if the Bocas have to play the Breakers for example or down in the 3rd flight where Ajax plays Thistlle for example. It would make the tournament look poorly run. They will make many changes to the flights and I hope they don't pay any attention to ECNL/NonECNL. Go by previous tournament results as well as league play comparison. They can surely figure it out. All will not be satisfied but they will do better than what is posted now.
EDP Girls U14 - Predictions if nothing changesNorthD1 Champion >> HBC SPARK (NYE)D1 Relegated >> JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH (NJ)D2 Promoted >> PERFECT TOUCH SA GIRLS 01-02 (NYE)D2 Relegated >> FC BERNA LEGACY 01G (NJ)D3 Promoted >> NHP WILDCATS LADY JAGUARS (NYE)CentralD1 Champion >> NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH-NPL (NJ)D1 Relegated >> REAL SOUNDERS (NJ)D2 Promoted >> JERSEY SHORE BOCA JR FC FUSION (NJ)D2 Relegated >> REAL SHORE LAKEWOOD FC CREW (NJ)D3 Promoted >> MOUNT LAUREL UNITED FURY (NJ)SouthD1 Champion >> PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)D1 Relegated >> PIPELINE BLACK (MD)D2 Promoted >> HFC READY '01 (PAE)D2 Relegated >> SAC CLASSIC 1 (MD)D3 Promoted >> 1776 UNITED FC XTREME (PAE)
Saw that list as well. Matchfit, PDA, and Penn Fusion all in Top 20 for powerhouse clubs for girls.
Keep going Spirit....Starting to look better.
There is a format that will work. This would be the best case scenario and is achievable!Create a league that works with RELEGATION!Take ECNL and make those teams by default the top league...Champions league.Then create leagues A - Z Using NPL...RPL...EDP...etc....Yes it wont be perfect at the beginning...but after several years, it will correct itself and continue to do so for years to come...So you say if your team loses and gets Relegated from Champions flight to flight A.... my team will lose players... ABSOLUTELY, that is part of change and change is good!This would be points based on league play... and league play only! When you take the choice away from people... Letting it run by Black and White...Facts and results... You have a living breathing machine that will eventually run itself!
re: Spirit flights... Medford, BOCA and HMMS don't belong in F1 (GS point Joke) - Move PDA Ajax; Continential ENCL and LVU up to higher flights
833 agreed Albertson should be considered also.
11:07Somehow you missed the spirit of development and are concentrating only on wins and loses.It would be a tremendous step back for youth soccer as coaches would be be even more vested in wins and shortcuts rather than developing players. It is bad enough as it is. You only need to look at the Matchfit video to understand that somehow the wheels have gone off the rails.
8:33 your post is exactly why Spirit should have just went with GS. What makes PDA Ajax so much better than the 3 you mentioned? have they ever played? No, But Medford & Boca tried to earn a higher flight by playing in events to play teams they normally don't so they can get some love.HMMS is a PAGS D1 team in a PAGS D1 that may have been harder than the league Ajax played in. Ajax played in Spirit, Stars & Delco and didn't even place. However, they did place at jeff cup and the nj cup and just for the record since Boca won D2 at Nj Cup shouldn't they get a bump or are you saying NJ soccer is not very strong?Also are you the same guy that made fun of NJ Crush and their placement at EDP. Learn your teams. The LVU team playing at Spirit is not the first team and the NJ Crush 1st team isn't playing EDP (maybe crossovers if they want to play in the NJ NCS).How do we know the selection people at these events are not like you and just go by the brand. Why I liked the GS flights - They are not opinion based - it's simple you play in a top event and get points ONLY if you place. You play in a league that uses the tool or is a top league that they enter manually (ECNL & NPL).
is ECNL played to develop or to win?is NPL played to develop or to win?is RCL played to develop or to win?is National League played to develop or to win?Isn't winning part of development? Why do teams like Medford, Boca & HMMS get pushed aside? Club not big enough? They played in events and placed in them to earn their way up the ladder.
8:53, haha, ouch. I am the guy who posted that video, and I never intended for it to become a bash-fest on MF, the players or the coaching, I really did not intend for that to happen. I posted because I wanted everyone to see that NEFC was beatable, just not by them. I agree that MF NPL did not show the skill-set that a National Cup event should, but I watched the NPL Finals and JFC was not that impressive either, they all play the same kind of style, which is play big, run fast, and shoot a high shot. Guess what, that still wins games at U13, and probably U14 too. The comments about the MF team being unfit were caddy and not very adult, but it is the price of success, MF NPL had a success season, hope they continue to develop, and continue to play the game they love.
9:01GS just perpetuates the more you play, the more you stay underdeveloped. It is a merry go round that rewards excessive play. It is a merry go round where coaches feel they have to keep up or risk losing points and not make the next top bracket of the next tournament. So ECNL said enough with that, we will create our own model of excellence which will try to highlight quality more than quantity..Still not perfect but it certainly is a big step in the right direction
What is latest top flight for spirit?
9:06It is not a bashfest but a testimony to bad coaching and training. It should be the blueprint for all parents of what a poorly trained team looks like no matter the win or loss.Playing so many games and worrying about wins at any cost has severly hampered the development of these girls.If you posted it as a example of how NEFC can be beat and did not see the obvious failure of the other team than you missed the obvious in your evaluation
HMMS,YMS, BOCA, MEDFORD, even PAC have no prayer in top flight. Hopefully they relegate them to F2 where they belong. If not, SS and PL have no competition in their bracket. Meanwhile, brackets C and D look better (not sure about PAC). Hopefully they swap some more. Although I doubt SS or PL are complaining!!
10:46, how old are you, dude? Have even watched enough games to understand that anything can happen in a game, especially in a high-pressure tournament? Have you no clue, that these girls can be motivated to accomplish beyond expectations? yes you do, you are being coy, and looking for some adversarial banter today, I will pass, good for all the teams, have fun. P.S. Please do not use SS as an abbreviation for anything, or anyone.
Let me try & get this straight. u14 girls playing soccer in the first tournament of the new season & 1058 is referring to this as a "high-pressure tournament"? Wow.
Congrats, you got it straight!Every time my daughter and I go to an out of state tournament we are going there to win. That is pressure, and I call it high, because at 13 how many other situations does a player encounter? I don’t spend money on hotels, gas, food, etc. because I want to have a leisurely weekend in some town I never heard of, we go there to win, and if we don’t, that is fine, but she must show me the effort, that is mandatory, is is my love for her, and everything she has accomplished. She rocks!
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