SDFC has much stronger and mature coaching staff.Shows in the u11 and 12 girls, both teams have come out strong this year. Girls tend to stay there as well. I like the idea, egos and money will prevent from happening. I don't think NJ Crush has ever built a strong team, but much better than town option if you have 3k for tuition, lots of extra training and indoor cash expected and another 5k for travel. They love to travel.
I don't think SDFC is strong at all at this age group. They lost a lot of talent when the DOC who was also coach of that team left. They always have a good turnout at tryouts, so who knows what next year will bring.
SDFC is a train wreck, DO NOT GO THERE!Club always having **** problems.Girls never stay at this club, players continually leave to the likes of Match Fit, PDA, World Class and yes Crush.STAY AWAY FROM THIS CLUB.
Not many options in the North.Crush is just ok. Not much technical training. Great club for the high school playerTSF is OK. Better coach here but depth of team a bit weak.They are also on the higher end of pricing. better quality and more attention paid to boys sideSDFC..Decent coaching have their issues with depth at this age group. training just okay. Stallions probably best training but is having issues with getting enough quality players into the program at this age group.(u13)They are trying to build from bottom up.They have solid u14 and u15 and nationally ranked u17 team.Worldclass good quality kids but very little technical training at this age group.The team is starting to struggle a bit.
Hey 2:03 Knock off the individual player discussion. How would you care to have your daughter identified and dissected in this forum? Your IP should be blacklisted.
World Class is due to one reason and only one ReasonInjuries PeriodThis happens at these age groups. Unfortunate he lost 4-5 players to date
My opinion is not based on Injuries.I know the world program very well.There is not much technical training provided.They play a pressing style. Ball is quickly played forward with very little passing combinations. They by pass the midfield for the most part. Midfielders are expected to press, win the ball and boot the ball up front to the forwards.
Well maybe that's why WC and MF npl always have a good game. Same exact philosophy. Going to be very interesting for the MF npl team very very soon
...and then I suppose your logic is:1 wrong + 1 wrong = 1 rightWhat a dim wit.
what happened to Rage when she left?
Why is it that when someone talks the truth nobody believes it and their comments are deleted but when someone surmises things it's okay to publish? Adminstrator the comment was in regards to someone making a false statement about one individual on a team and putting the rest of the team down, Why can't the girls be defended without being deleted?
@October 27, 2014 at 9:41 AM NJCSA Galaxy only has 14 players on their roster last I heardyou should look into it
YST Score Central:A look ahead to this week’s match ups:===========================NYCSL NPLNew York SC NPL-01Manhattan SC NPL-01The two former EDP/EDL NPL Club teams battle this week. For Manhattan this is an opportunity to pull even with NYSC, For NYSC it’s a must win to stay on top.Quickstrike FC NPL-01Intense SA NPL-01ISA was a pre-season favorite to contend for a title, but instead they need to regroup for the spring. Quickstrike started with some promise but was quick to find out that this NPL is not so easy,STA NPL-01NJ Crush FC NPL-01 In this huge NJ battle STA can claim first with a win and a little help this week. While NJ Crush still has a game in hand but is in the driver’s seat when it comes to goal differential.
YST Score Central:A look ahead to this week’s match ups:===========================New England NPLNEFC ELITE U13 GIRLSSEACOAST UNITED ELITE - DR- 01/02The Fall season ends this week, but NEFC has already clinched first place and will receive the GS grand price for this league. While for Seacoast a win and some help can push them up to number 2 for the FallOAKWOOD SCYANKEE UNITED F.C. BLAST NPL-01 BLUEOakwood currently the number 2 team in the league can lock it down by beating state rival Yankee united who can also claim 2nd with a little help.
YST Score Central:A look ahead to this week’s match ups:===========================Northeast Girls NPLPre-ECNL FlightAlbertson SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNLWorld Class FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNLAlbertson ends their season this weekend a win will help them move up the ladder. While World Class will look for some redemption after a slow start to u13 soccer.FSA FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNLBoston Breakers Academy 01 U13 Pre-ECNLFSA playing their 4th game against the pre-season favorite from Boston who slipped a couple of times which may cost them the Fall titleEast Meadow SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNLPDA 01 U13 Pre-ECNLThis is probably the game of the fall when it comes to league play. You have the team everyone hates in NJ playing the team that everyone hates on Long Island. By the way they both happen to be 1 & 2 going into this battle.Connecticut FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNLFC Stars of Mass 01 U13 Pre-ECNL CFC doesn’t have a lot of games under their belt this should be a good test for FC Stars who can move within a point of PennFusion who’s done for the year with 18 pts.Albertson SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNLPDA 01 U13 Pre-ECNLOn paper this should be a walk in the park, but Albertson has been known to surprise teams when they look beyond them.East Meadow SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL World Class FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNLIt doesn’t get any easier for EM, while paper will tell us EM should romp WC may have had this game marked down on the calendar as the one the want in this NYE affair.Connecticut FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNLBoston Breakers Academy 01 U13 Pre-ECNLShould be a great test for CFC Boston looking to stay in the hunt and keep the pressure on 1& 2.FSA FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNLFC Stars of Mass 01 U13 Pre-ECNLHis should be an even battle in the 4th game of the week putting CT vs MA.
YST Score Central:A look ahead to this week’s match ups:===========================Northeast Girls NPLNPL FlightAlbertson SC 01 NPLWorld Class FC 01 NPLAlbertson looking for their 3rd win of the season vs their NYE rival, while World Class looking to salvage the season and not finish in the basement.Connecticut FC 01 NPLFC Stars of Mass 01 NPLCFC has been on fire since they started playing and should rack up another 3 points vs FC Stars this week on paper.FSA FC 01 NPLBoston Breakers Academy 01 NPLFSA also looking good which makes the league a stronger, but unfortunately for the league when it comes to getting some GS flight value love the FSA GS account management decision hurts this league the most. Boston on the other hand missed on a golden opportunity last week to come away with 6, have a chance this week to go against teams they will battle directly for a post season spot.PDA North 01 NPLPDA South 01 NPLTwo little sisters do battle in this one, with North holding the better position in the standings and South holding a game in hand. Albertson SC 01 NPL PDA South 01 NPL South maks up their game in hand and should get an easy 3 on paper vs Albertson.FSA FC 01 NPLFC Stars of Mass 01 NPLFSA can continue their strong start by tacking on two more clean sheets to their u13 season vs FC StarsConnecticut FC 01 NPLBoston Breakers Academy 01 NPLCFC ends the CT vs MA battles and is also looking to add 2 more clean sheets to their u13 season. As mentioned before big weekend for Boston.
Is GS points guy around for the Wildcats total projected State Cup haul?
Dear YST Score Central, you rock!
So PDA shore team coach got yellow carded?But its ok because he is passionate and they won anyway.Classy PDA.I have not heard good things about this coach be weary parents.Coached many different teams.Long history.
651 which PDA team are you referring to? the new shore team down in toms river? fusion is name I think?
I believe they will move up from 3 to 2 in nj and up to 6 or 7 in region 1 after last years state cup points are deducted and this years added in.
only rankings that mean anything from here on outhttp://www.topdrawersoccer.com/club-soccer/club-soccer-team-rankings/women/u13/1/440
YAAAAWWWNNN!!#onlyucare#giveitup#your daughter won't even be playing in2years#newtopic
Don't like rankings that are subjective like top drawer.To each his own though.
yes referring to Fusion coach.
who would want to play on PDA'S "D" team anyway?
NiceAjax is in no way a second ranked team statewide.Wildcats slotting in there makes sense
I would lean towards Top Drawer over Got soccer points. Points now a days are just not working
like it or not it definitely is a second rate team in the club.Best players get moved.Others write checks.
I'll take you upon this debate and defend GS. How are they not working?This Fall in addition to all the major tournaments and GS tournaments Leagues will get points based on the top teams in the league. NYCSL NPL,New England NPL, NorthEast NPL Pre-ECNL and NPL flights, EDP and even JAGS will award points. So every team in these leagues will be playing by the same rules. By the end of Spring when these leagues add their Spring League points and all the big Spring Tournaments we will have true top 10's/Your turn. If you lean towards top drawer please share their logic.
Big 3 Tournaments to end FallBethesdaNESSMAPS Did I miss any
NEWSS --- National Elite Womens Soccer Showcase11/29/2014-11/30/2014Teams Applied Girls U13Albertson Soccer Club WESTAlbertson Soccer Club Fury '01 Pre-ECNLAtlantic United Academy - AvalancheAtletico FC Girls '01 tCapital United Blue ForceDE Union Orange '01East Meadow HotShotzGlen Shields FC (Canada)LaGrange Soccer Club RageLevittown Soccer Club SupersonicsManhattan SC G01 PrideMassapequa Soccer Club Lil' RowdiesMercer FC Spurs NHP Wildcats Lady JaguarsPerfect Touch Soccer Academy GirlsRamapo Valley SC Tornados '02STA Morris United NPL 01TSF Academy 01/02GYankee United F.C.Blast NPL-01 Blue
Ajax throttled Wildcats 3-1 at U13, of course they should be ranked higher.
PDA fusion ... Will that be a ecnl team or npl . ???? How many teams can be ecnl teams for pda .
11:51 what else do you have?? You have been riding on that one consolation game for quite awhile now.
I hear many teams about to start losing players for the spring and next year.
GS updated NJ rankings with 2014 Nj Cup points and removed 2013 cup points.Below are the NJ top 20 rankings sorted by current points minus the points they will lose in the fall.Plus we will need to add the Fall League points. Points going Away (current GS rank)0,000 (5) PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM 170413,088 (1) PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX 169763,735 (4) NJCSA GALAXY 141944,969 (2) NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH 137774,888 (3) STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 135800,669 (7) MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC NORTH EAST NPL 103190,000 (13) PDA DRAGONS 75800,419 (12) ATLANTIC UNITED ACADEMY - AVALANCHE 73062,247 (9) TSF ACADEMY 01/02G 71990,000 (16) MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC ECNL 65772,920 (10) SDFC SAMBA 56681,552 (15) JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH 53811,759 (14) NJCSA ELITE 52660,466 (17) FC COPA ACADEMY LIMA NPL 52380,566 (18) MERCER FC SPURS 51150,245 (19) PDA SHORE FUSION 45917.538 (6) RAGE FC PREMIER FREEDOM 39570,836 (20) NEW JERSEY RUSH 01 GIRLS BLUE 35716,482 (8) NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI 35025,778 (11) INTERNATIONAL GIRLS FUTBOL ACADEMY 01-02 2011
5:08- Thats all I need. When talking about which teams are better the team that outplays, out scores and out hustles another team is the better team.If you want to disregard a 3-1 loss, then can we say that STA and Crush are both better than the Wildcats?Can't have it both ways.
My bad GS did not add 2014 NJ cup points they only removed 2013.So the list I posted is basically currents GS top 20 less points for 2013 Fall
How are EDP league champions determined and points added when there are still games to play?
9:01 Good question. Maybe it will still adjust. It also seems league flight values were calculated currently vs beginning of league season. Is GS guy around?
Maybe now you guys understand why YST Score Central or GS guy doesn't do anything with EDP/EDL? When they don't update their EDL page (The NPL league), it shows they don't care. It looks like they calculated their flights and the points will adjust as they move up and down the table. Giving their teams an early christmas present. Speaking of which go STA you guys are going to rack up league points this FALL. By doing both EDP and NYCSL NPL. U13 EDP Flight Values1st Division North 44501st Division Central 90002nd Division South 16322nd Division North 41842nd Division Central 2801Maps Elite 1107Crossover Games 3867
8:36 your use of deductive reasoning and logic is amazing. Check the label on that bottled water you've been drinking. Wake up, smell the coffee and realize your team is done as a top flight team.Your own club will no longer allow you to be flighted in top flight if your Club's A team is in the same tournament. And EVERY Time your A team is in a tournament or event you will be playing without your top 1-3 players that weekend who they will take with the A Team to their event.All the major tournaments outside nj will look at your NE NPL league affiliation and recognize that EVERY TEAM in that league is the B Team of their respective club and flight you lower as we have already seen this fall with Bethesda flighting asMF NE NPL Team is in same boat going forward. Your teams are now basically the JV Teams in your club with your teams players all fighting for that occasional call-up to varsity.Which for most of your girls will prove extremely elusive.By next fall the A Team will have picked your bones of your best 1-3 players and most of you will be left with a much diminished 2nd flight Team moving forward, still pretty competitive, but never again a top flighted team at major tournaments.
You see, posters come on and say GS stinks.Here are 2 examples of how the management of tool kill the rankings.1. EDP ends season early to award points will season is still in progress. This benefits teams playing any event prior to the end of the EDP season. Example NJ Cup, will get a GS flight injection.2. FSA adds a new team and creates a new GS account. So instead of giving this account to the new team they give it to their NPL team. The give their new team their Navy account which was #1 in CT and their White account to their Pre-ECNL team. Which awards points to teams beating up on their 3rd team 300pt bonus plus their flight values are higher. The Pre-ECNL team doesn't matter which account they get because they will be ECNL, the NPL team got the raw deal instead of being ranked top 100 they are further down the list.These are just two examples of why GS will never be perfect. But I still love it. You can never account for mismanagement or people looking for an edge to tweak the system they will never go away.
So Coach, how does it feel to get beat 3-1 by a B team?
I agree 10:23, if they didn't have PDA in their team name people would be like that AJAX team is pretty good, but because they do have PDA in the name and everyone knows they are not the ECNL team - they are now a "b" team. Honestly, I would rather my kid play on these B teams rather than 90% of the A teams in Region 1. Not just NJ region 1.But you are right they are a B team and if it doesn't bother those parents - what's your beef? Does the 3-1 score line bother you that much?
8:36 you are losing all credibility All that tells us is you don't have anything else to hang your hat onGood try thoughAfter the all important ecnl and npl games that is your only kudoSad, very sad
The funny part is that game doesn't bother us at all. You are making it way more than what it was but that's OK. Good for you!Good luck in your next "friendly"
yes, PDA coach at Fusion out of TRFC got yellow carded. His team was performing weakly and tied with Real Shore at half time. The goalie from Real had about 40 saves give or take in the match. I would say about 200 plus people on side lines for Saturday night match under the lights. PDA coach showed little class, as yellow card given everyone clapped. shame on him. but they won and pay $2600 per year.
Is it unusual for EDP girl to leave now for new team after fall season ends? Are their penalties for that, have to sit a match or two or anything like that silly rule in MOSA? thanks
@10:13I usually don't like to get involved in territorial supremacy fights between two teams but I will make exception this time.The Ajax team in the short term will suffer a bit as the ECNL team choses a player or two that will be able to help the ECNL team form it major core for u14. Contrary to popular belief, it will not always be the best player, it will be the player that helps fill in the hole that the ECNL has in their line up.(e.i) You can have a great defender and great forward on the AJAX team but if the ECNL team has their fill of forwards, they will pick up the defender. This is an important distinction because as the ajax team matures-u15, u16, u17, there will be some significant player talent on this team.2nd point is that as the teams get older, the ECNL teams will be very stingy about what major tournaments the ECNL teams will be involved in outside the ECNL. This will give the Ajax team access to top flights in many major tournaments.The Ajax team will be the team that the wildcat team will most likely see in major tournaments.Further the clout of an organization like PDA will give Ajax an advantage in entering major tournaments because of the clubs reputation.The Wildcat team may be a major force in years to come and will be able to enter the top flights of the best tournaments at u15 and above or their team may fade as most of the older teams have faded before them. It will be up to coach, training and how many kids they attract to help keep this team strong. The brand of PDA will continue to attract players. Players will continue to come into the program. You only need to look at PDA's , two u18 teams from last year to understand the business model.One team ,ECNL, won the ECNL national championship. The other team , PDA's second team, were finalist in the non ECNL National championshipBoth teams had their share of committed D1 & high level D2players.So regardless of which team(wildcats or AJAX) becomes the better team as the girls mature, both teams should have plenty of opportunity at High level tournaments.-Soccer Nut-
That is what the pressure to win right away will do. Worry about training and developing the girls you already have and not just recruiting players from all the other clubs.
These aren't invalid points, 10:13. And I think for the audience you were addressing -- a parent posting old scores on a soccer blog -- you aren't wrong. But I would assume that the bulk of the parents on that B team are just looking for the best experience (training, some success on the field) for their kids, and do not care that their squad is technically the B team. That's just a label that only the kooks care about.
no penalties for leaving EDP team mid season don't worry do what's best for your child
I am not sure who the person is trying to poke the Wildcats about the Ajax match of 2 months ago. Not sure if it is Ajax or more likely someone posing as them just to stir it up, but whoever it is, you may want to pick a different week to do it considering their successful SC results. You may want to let it lie until their next game vs. Boca :). Let them have their moment.
rarely do I comment on this blog, watch out for BOCA, their U12 boys team almost won state cup. Magic is happening their somehow. Of course PDA beat that U12 boca team in final. And yes applicable because U13 team is real hot right now.
If its the Ajax folks, 11:40, I guess their stance is that they too would have handled CRUSHOf course they never have, so take that as you will...
What are results head to head Ajax vs Crush at U12/U13?
OH NO A FIRE, let me throw some gas on it..1. PDA Storm2. MF ECNL3. MF NPL4. PDA South5. Wildcats6. STA7. PDA North8. Crush9. TSF10. GalaxyThink thats a fair list, in MY OPINION.
He's the same person who has been one noting it over and over any time WC lose a game.Hopelessly obsessed with their team.
Yes, he is a real stalker.Heard his daughter doesn't even play soccer anymore and he still lives on the blog every day attacking wildcats. It's a shame, but hate and bitterness is eating him up.
Is that the Freehold guy from Manalapan Dynamite?
Good list 12:40I'd think Samba and IGFA would be the next 2 - and wish to be included in top 10.
Ajax have never defeated Crush
What is the head to head overall record of Ajax Crush at U12/U13?
no record, officially
11:57 the u12b team that made is to SC finals is a Stafford town team, same coach as the boca u13g team though. both teams have been on the rise this season, maybe top 15 in state, but don't think they have broke the top 10 yet. but agreed that there must be some solid coaching as both are improving consistently.
AJAX > crush
Are you awaiting a rebuttal?
Have to agree it can't be an ajax parent posting.there record vs Crush and Wildcats is dismal.1 win combined vs those 2 teams in the last year in about a dozen games.
You parents are too much... Obviously the obsession with PDA shore coach is coming from real shore parents. My kid doesn't play on either team but plays middle school soccer with kids on both teams, we went to watch the game. Yes PDA coach got yellow carded, the coach yelled "Hey," when his player was fouled from behind. Certainly not yellow card worthy, what was truly classless was the real shore parents clapping when the card was given. Grow up people!!!!
12:40 I like your list. 1 & 2 can go either was but based on Fall Pre-ECNL Division you got it right.3. MF NPL has done nothing to say they have dropped besides less tournaments = less GS points. They are doing well in NPL division. 4-6 can go either way depending on who you ask between NJ Wildcats, PDA South and PDA North. The PDA question should be answered this week. 7-10 in any order on any given day one can beat the other11+ I know BOCA has been making a push, but I think Atlantic, SDFC is ahead of them and I would also like to see Copa, SJEB, Medford (NJYS State Cup Champs) and PDA shore in the conversation.AS I said I think you did a great job an I think you got the teams right, but this is u13 soccer and a lot can change very quickly
MF NPL should be lower. Has not been impressive in NPL with ties to both Penn Fusion and PDA NPL North. Win against PDA NPL South impressive but sounds like some of their best players have been moved to the Storm.
@PDA shore fusion parent. So now referees are giving PDA coaches unnecessary cards you are saying? Come on, the last thing, ever, in the world a ref wants to do is give a card, trust me, being a ref in my older days. This all gets logged in remember, especially at EDP level. Remember another coach on this blog is coded "red card" maybe we make PDA coaches who are carded "did not deserve card" ........... go PDA $2600 per year, please start at U8 and also be sure to do ODP for $1600 per year. Real Shore is EDP, but like town team, not sure parents from that team blog on here.
"My kid doesn't play on either team but plays middle school soccer with kids on both teams, we went to watch the game."The needle on my BS Meter just bent.
PDa Fusion is the "D" team? How do you make a D team? that is weird and they pay that much money? Why not stay on local good team, perhaps the D team aspires to be C/B/A, but that would mean many, many girls to overcome to get there. Remember the U14 PDA shore team folded, Brick parents were smart and stayed Brick, and btw, they are kicking arse without the PDA fees and name. PDA really scammed those TR teams, they made over $200K per year with that move. Great business model, but PDA before U13/14, same with ODP, why before U12 and why D team, just parents reliving child hood dreams to say they play for PDA. right?
2:26 Medford, Copa, and Boca were in the same flight at EDP Cup and Boca came out on top, defeating Meford 2-0 in the finals so I would say Boca tops all them. Looks like SJEB and Boca will be meeting up for the EDP Open this weekend, interested to see that result. As for Atlantic United, they lost to Medford and PDA Shore in EDP but topped SJEB. And then several of these teams may be touching base at the Fall Challenge as well so these 11-15 spots should figure themselves out within the next month or so. Congrats to Medford on their SC win, let's see them move into the higher bracket next year.As of today I would have to place the 11+ in the following order:1. BOCA (beat Meford who has defeated the other below teams)2. Medford (beat PDA shore and Copa Lima)3. PDA Shore (beat Atlantic United and SJEB)4. Atlantic United (beat SJEB)5. SJEB5. FC Copa LimaYou might look for a couple of these teams to make their way into the 6-10 positions as well, depending on how the others hold on to players. I would also argue that PDA Shore is a "D" team. There is a large mileage between Shore and the North/South teams so I'm not certain there is going to be as much movement between the teams and that they are considered "D".
correction to last post... "that PDA Shore is NOT a D team"
3:54 Thank you!! I like your logic it makes perfect sense. It's good to see some representation of the up and coming teams/clubs on this board. I've been trying to include MA, CT & VA NPL teams. I wanted to include EDP in all my updates. I just find it very hard to talk because scores don't get updated for weeks. For example Calvert got a win vs LVU that score just got posted but the game was played 2 weeks ago.The EDL NPL page hasn't been touched in Months, they still have 2 clubs no longer in the league on it. I want to include them but it's very hard to find information.PS. Great Job with your breakdown
I would love to see the Northeast/Mid-Atlantic steal a page from the Northwest Champions League NPL.For starters lets Call it the Atlantic Champions League (ACL) and make it the 20th NPL.We can take the top 2 teams from NorthEast NPL, New England NPL, NYCSL NPL, EDP/EDL NPL and Virginia NPL.Then every year at the end of each season the champion of each NPL will play in a pro/rel event with the 10th place team of the ACL. The winner joins o stays in ACL.We could see a league with these 10 teams:MF NPLPDA SouthNEFCOakwoodNYSCSTANJ WildcatsTSFPWSIVA RushThis may not be ECNL but it would have 10 very strong teams with a door open for other NPL teams to join.EDP Can also build on this idea, I think they have started thatwithMAPSD2D1pro/rel
My own observations:1. Penn Legacy2. PDA Pre-ECNL3. East Meadow Pre-ECNL4. FC Stars of Mass Pre-ECNL5. Penn Fusion Pre-ECNL6. Match Fit Pre-ECNL7. Boston Breakers Pre-ECNL8. PDA NPL South9. Match Fit NPL10. 177611. Connecticut FC Pre-ECNL12. World Class Pre-ECNL13. FSA Pre-ECNL14. Albertson Pre-ECNL15. Penn Fusion NPLNever seen:WildcatsPDA NPL NorthMatch Fit BlackNYSCPA CLassics
How did you come up with these teams? Not the top teams in respective NPL
4:41 I have no problem bringing in the PA teams but you can have them that high. PL has tied Nj Wildcats and NJSCA Galaxy in 11v11 and Beat up on PennFusion (8v8) who's not the best team in Pre-ECNL Division. 1776 have beat none of the teams on this list and they have lost to the below should not be on this list - sorry. They haven't beat any team outside of their own PAGS league.GREATER BINGHAMTON FC 01 SELECT (NYW) 0-1FC STARS OF MASS NORTH UNITED (MA) 1-3PWSI COURAGE 01 RED (VA) 1-3BRYC 01 ELITE (VA) 0-1But I still respect it and it's a different look.
My ACL list was totally random - but some are favorites on this board.
Thanks for a civilized rebuttal, 4:51. I figured there'd be some objections based on results. I'm basing it more on the quality of play...if 1 played 2 who would win. Sometimes it lines up nicely -- Penn Fusion above Match Fit Pre-ECNL, Boston Breakers Pre-ECNL, PDA NPL South, and Match Fit NPL...sometimes it doesn't. I've seen each of these teams play and I just think that's where 1776 should be slotted.When Penn Legacy wants to win, they win. When they want to develop their players, results are mixed. With the future of life as we know it in the balance, in my opinion, they'd score more goals in a 70 minute game than any team on this list. That's why I have them at the top.
5:01 I would love to see them play ECNL/NPL rules 80 minutes with limited sub once your out you are out for the half. It's a different game with those rules.
With the future of life as we know it in the balance, they would not sub.
3:02pm one team is Lakewood and the other is Toms River so it's possible to know kids on both teams and for them to go to school together as their are neighboring towns
interesting with galaxy 4th in state, like 22nd in country? he moved them up quickly, or will points adjust? they did lose to only WC, they have been large part of conversation on here. I heard NJCSA investing 30 million or so in new facility Colts Neck, of course, Monmouth cty. academy status, ecnl and good coaching/teams/trainers can really propel this new ramos venture with some very good teams already.
5:16 then they are not deep and cannot be #1.The best team will play you with a roster of 18 and you will not know the difference when they sub.If we are talking about teams that only roster 15 for games or teams that depend on a handful of players - well I'm sorry but that is not and cannot be the best team.
10:33On any team from pros on down, there are difference makers. Not all players are created equal even at the highest level of sports. lose 1 difference maker and your team is handicapped. lose two difference makers and your team is not the same .We want to pretend that at the top levels of this age group that all players are created equal.The truth of the matter is remove a true difference maker from one high level team to another then the team that gets that player becomes stronger and the team that loses that player becomes weaker. Thats why they are called difference makers!
11:00 Not talking about individual players and level of play by these players.Said Best team is deep and strong with 18 starters that dress every day, but only 11 can actually start.A team like this will destroy any team with a difference maker or two because guess what even though 18 can start at any time, they also have difference makers.What I said is that if a team has to shorten it's bench, well they are not that good are they as a team?
4;41 and 5:16 here, original poster.I honestly have no idea how deep PL's bench is. It may totally rock. The list was a "who would beat who" list, not a "here are the best teams" list or "here's who plays the 'best soccer'" list.I think in a one game, winner take all situation, the higher ranked teams would beat the ones below them. Again, just my opinion, based on what I have seen from each of those teams on the field. I've intentionally left off the teams I haven't seen for this reason.
And I like 11:00's point, too. If a team with a weak bench cannot be the best team, can a team with two difference makers who carry the load really be considered the best? I say no. Take only one or two players away and suddenly the team is average? How can that be the best team?
8:19Unfortunately, that is every team in this age group. If you take off the top 2 players from each top team, that team would fall off dramatically.
"A team like this will destroy any team with a difference maker or two because guess what even though 18 can start at any time, they also have difference makers."I disagree, the definition of my difference maker is that there are only a few per age group. so not every team has one. you can have a couple of very good players( strongest players on the team) but it does not make them difference makers) By definition-If you put a difference maker on the same team as the team that has 18 good solid players even when a couple of them are stronger than the rest, the difference maker brings that team to another level,--a lot of high level teams have strong players but they are not the same thing as difference makers.
"Unfortunately, that is every team in this age group. If you take off the top 2 players from each top team, that team would fall off dramatically."For the teams where it is easy to identify the best two players, game after game, week after week, I agree. For those teams where on Saturday Sally and Susie were the two best players and on Sunday Rosie and Regan were the two best players, it is not necessarily true.
Please don't identify individual players by name.
lolSusie juggles in the driveway
Dear YST Score Central guy,Can you give me some NYCSL predictions for this weekend?Quickstrike FC NPL-01Intense SA NPL-01New York SC NPL-01Manhattan SC NPL-01STA NPL-01NJ Crush FC NPL-01
BOCA is in that top flight Nov 15/16, lets see what they can do.
NYSC over ManhattanSTA over Crush
WeirdWhy did EDP give out fall league points already?
they always do that
Trick or Treat..Oh nice costume.. are you supposed to be a top team? Here you go.. 2500 points.
@u13NYSC (GP13, W6, T3, L4)Manhattan (GP12, W5, T3, L4)NYSC is W2-L1 vs Manhattan head 2 head============================NJ Crush (GP16,W10, T1, L5)STA NPL (GP19, W13, T1, L5)STA is W1-T1-L2 vs Crush head 2 head=============================NYSC should win on paperSTS/Crush should end up in a tie.
My favorite is Crush and TSF playing 1 game but counting it 3 times.EDPCJYSANJ Cup.Why wouldn't you play 3 games? Didn't you just cheat your kids out of playing 2 games this season?
CJYSA? What is that?
Triple the points. That's why GS doesn't work
No points associated with that
"Why wouldn't you play 3 games? Didn't you just cheat your kids out of playing 2 games this season?"They are really only missing 1 game. The EDP Crossover game counts as a CJYSA game, but it's not a separate game. With both of those team making the semis, you would assume they both cleared their schedules last Sat and Sunday, and the week prior, so they probably have games in queue to be made up.
Anonymous said...BOCA is in that top flight Nov 15/16, lets see what they can do.October 29, 2014 at 10:41 AMHAHahahahahahahahahahah. I like how you conveniently left out the fact that you're in the "top flight" with the Who's Who of New Jersey soccer mediocrity. You sure have earned the respect of the u13 community now!Can you do me a favor and please stay off the board until you've put together a resume that extends beyond a lone win over Wildcats six months ago in what is proving to be an anomaly more and more every day? There is no more self-promoting team than you, and that says a lot on this board.
I get it this is how EDP allows teams to be caredfor both US Club Soccer and USYSA via CJYSA. So I can see why EDP and CJYSA scores are listed. The points are not doubled for Wins or flights.However, why would you let your league game count as your NCS game?I get it they agreed to play one game winner gets all. But why?National Championship Series u11-u14CJYSA U13NJ CRUSH FC TSUNAMI (NJ)TSF ACADEMY 01/02 (NJ)SDFC SAMBA (NJ)INTERNATIONAL GIRLS FUTBOL ACADEMY 01-02 (NJ)FC COPA ACADEMY LIMA (NJ)EDP U13 1st Division North HBC SPARK (NYE)BEACHSIDE SC CT BEACHSIDE (CT)SABA BROOKLYN CITY (NYE)SOUTH CENTRAL PREMIER SPIRIT (CT)TSF ACADEMY 01/02 (NJ)RAMAPO VALLEY SC TORNADOS '02 (NYE)NJCSA ELITE (NJ)
As of today I would have to place the 11+ in the following order:1. BOCA (beat Meford who has defeated the other below teams)2. Medford (beat PDA shore and Copa Lima)3. PDA Shore (beat Atlantic United and SJEB)4. Atlantic United (beat SJEB)5. SJEB5. FC Copa Lima
@2:58 Hahahaha guy; sounds like you are a Wildcat parent. So the haha is on you!10:41 was only responding to prior posts where they were wondering if Boca would get moved up. And a more recent post ranking the 8-15 teams in state. That top flight includes 3 of the teams that were mentioned.This board isn't just for PDA, MF, WC, and Wildcats. I for one like to hear about the up and coming teams as well.So 2:58 Wildcat parent, please take your Boca loss and move on. Nobody even mentioned the Boca win over Wildcats except you.
@258pm see above, I would love my daughters team to be in this company. regarding BOCA come on.
3:09 do you have a comment on your post? it was only copied from above??
3:11 agree. not all teams can be #1-10 at one time, some may be lower but are making a move. I have been looking for a new team for my daughter and boca and pda shore both on my list. I know they aren't top 10 but close enough to where I would love for my daughter to play. Sad that the other parents on this board bash those teams just because they aren't "the best"
2:58 definitely a sour Wildcat parent. Other teams can talk as well. Move on, you're too pompeous!
You're all wrong. I hate the Wildcat parents as much as anyone on this board. My daughter plays on one of those other teams on the outside looking in to the top 10. But you come off so demanding of everyone's attention and respect. You're a decent team, but tell me. Of the other teams you mention in your 11-15 (and clearly that's you also), how many of them are arguing about positioning outside of the top ten? What's the difference between 11 and 12? Or 11 and 15 really? Who cares but you? Certainly not the parents of Medford, PDA Shore, Atlantic United, SJEB or Copa. I've never heard a peep from them.
It's all very reminiscent of the GAKster. And knowing what I know, I guess it's safe to assume I know who this is coming from. You'll never change.
Other 2:58They allowed the NCS game to count as a league game. They played the NCS game in Marlboro last week right after STA/Wildcats. Since the EDP game is a crossover game and has no impact on the league standings, they probably agreed to count it twice to get the game out of the way because schedules are already jam packed this time of year. This is not unusual. We haven't been able to fit every game on our EDP schedule in once since U11.
When will state cup points be awarded
Wildcats are not on the board attacing Boca, please.Wildcats are not worrying about Boca one way or the other.we wish them well.By the way totally agree that this board is for ALL U13 teams, not a select few. Wildcats came up the ladder from where you are ranked now(10-15) so we have been there and know how hard it is to gain respect.Stop assuming you know it was us who is attacking your team.Unless this is the same sicko who jumps in and poses at any chance to blame wildcats for anything over last 18 months.And we all know the stalker we are talking about.Same MO over and over.Tries to blame every issue and every negative post on wildcats.No one is buying stalker.
Yes, 2:58 is the Freehold/Manalapan Dynamite Stalkers MO.
It's the Boca Coach or parent just trying to induce any unhappy stragglers from top teams to come their way.Nothing more or less.
Who's the gakster? I'm lost.
Was he with gak, sjeb, and now boca?
Definitely was with Gak, not sure about sjeb. Yes, he is with boca now.
I clarify that this parent moved from GAK to the SJEB 'b' team to Boca and my comment gets removed? On what basis?
YST Score Central:GS Top 5s point accumulations going into th end of October,another update to follow on Nov 1 and every 1st of the month after.CT1 CFC WEST ORANGE (ECNL?)2 FSA FC U13 GIRLS ELITE 01 (C Team)3 CFC ARSENAL SKY (NPL?)4 OAKWOOD SC (NPL)5 FSA FC U13 GIRLS PRE-ECNL 01MA1 SOUTH SHORE SELECT U13 ELITE2 FC STARS OF MASSACHUSETTS NORTH UNITED3 NEFC ELITE U13 GIRLS (NPL)4 BOSTON BREAKERS ACADEMY GU13 ECNL5 NEFC CENTRAL UNITED U13 GIRLSMD1 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (EDP)2 HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (EDP)3 PIPELINE BLACK (EDP)4 MARYLAND UNITED FC 01 ECNL5 PHWM SC PUMASNJ1 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY AJAX (NPL)2 STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 013 WILDCATS AVERBUCH (EDP)4 NJCSA GALAXY (EDP)5 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM (ECNL)NYE1 WORLD CLASS FC '01 CHARLTON (ECNL)2 EAST MEADOW HOTSHOTZ (ECNL)3 ATLETICO FC GIRLS '014 ALBERTSON FURY '01 PRE-ECNL (ECNL)5 ISA 01 NPLPAE1 PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK2 PENN FUSION SA '01G PRE-ECNL3 HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT4 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS (EDP)5 FC REVOLUTION FORCEVA1 FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 012 BRYC 01 ELITE3 PWSI COURAGE 01G RED (NPL)4 VIENNA YOUTH SOCCER VYS PRIDE '01 RED5 FC VIRGINIA UNITED '01
The recently maligned CES Calvert Crew White team has moved to #2 in the country (GS)Top NJ team is now #15
10:15 You can thank EDP for that.I wouldn't worry about that. Once North East Girls NPL season ends either in the Spring or if hey will split it into two the Pre_ECNL flight should carry a max 10,000 value if they can determine which are the ECNL team GS accounts. FSA has proven that can be a challenge.NewEngland NPL & NYCSL NPL don't assign point until the season is over no Free points to jack up any events they are in.
just for clarification, gakster was only with boca for a very short timeframe last spring. don't know where he is now.
Thanks, 10:14. For CT, I think CFC Arsenal is the pre-ECNL team.
@918 That is weird, my daughter plays EDP, not top 10, but very good player, lets be honest, their are like 4 EDP teams in Ocean County, so if you play EDP at all you are hands down amongst best in area. Remember you have MOSA players in EDP, you have EDP player on MOSA teams, probably premier. my younger daughter is on mosa nat 3, but she and select others are just not nat 3 players on that team, but that will fall out quickly as usually does as kids stop at U10/11/12 etc. hence why mosa has only through nat 4 at U13 current, but nat 7 at younger ages. So to all who read and post, be happy if your daughter is beyond MOSA, not even sure premier is good anymore, it used to be the place to be years ago? you have JAGS, MAPS, ODP, EDP, ECNL, MOSA is like rec league now? Get out as quickly as you can if decent player??
@10:50AMSo wait...Spring 2013 he was with GAK. Fall 2013 with SJEB B Team. Spring 2014 with Boca? Three teams in three seasons? And now Fall 2014 a fourth team? Are they trying to collect jerseys from every team in NJ?
12:00 very interesting below are your top flights in some non EDP leaguesJAGS1) STATEN ISLAND UNITED2) HULMEVILLE SC DYNAMO 3) FREEHOLD SL FREEDOM3) THISTLE COMETS5) WALL SC WAVE6) HADDONFIELD SC6) JACKSON SC AVALANCHE 8) MOUNT LAUREL UNITED FURY9) OCEAN TOWNSHIP UNITED SANCSANoValleyMaroonsWayneSCCliftonNoRockland 13ArsenalArsenalSDFCEmersonRiverDellTenaflyMCYSAEast Hanover Sting West Essex FC Lightning Kinnelon Sting Madison Marvels Roxbury Arsenal Morris United StrikersMOSAHazlet United SAPeninsula S.C Middletown S.C. Bricktown S.A.Battle of Monmouth S.C.Howell United S.C.
This is the answer to why teams travel and play in leagues like EDP if they consider themselves Premier.
1235 interesting post, very. So some of the teams in JAGS not bad. MOSA Middletown usually good club, Bricktown has great U14 sure we all know about. Otherwise weak. I do believe JAGS teams would crush all MOSA teams and EDP teams would beat, not crush the JAGS teams. Jackson is not bad, Freehold, Wall and Thistle.
Just seeing the "top 5" GS points makes me chuckle..... Keep chasing them and believing that those points "make" you good.....
Translation: GS has my kid's team ranked 104 in NJ.People who think GS is 100% useless are the same as people who think GS is the most important thing around. Both make me chuckle.I think its natural to have an interest in which teams are good or not. Considering it is impossible to see every team play, GS is one way to try to compare two teams that have never played each other.
Why would it make you chuckle? As long as you maintain perspective, there's value in it. With so much movement up and down the rankings on any given week when the top teams don't even play each other, clearly it's not perfect. But if you use the rankings and apply a sort of "standard deviation", and recognize that a teams actual ranking is not as accurate as it's approximate ranking, then everything makes sense.
1:47 - I know what you are saying but i don't get it. How can you be calling teams out for playing tournaments. Most successful teams at the top of the GS ranking have played approx 10 tournaments which includes Fall/Spring leagues and 1 or 2 state Cups depending on your state. Sticking to NJ so if a team has a high GS rank from accumulation of points from 10 events - two which are EDP Fall/Spring league games + Fall/Spring State Cups. That leaves them with 6 tournaments and approx 40 total games played. How is that chasing?I agree 2:39 it's a simple tool using simple math to measure a team's success and as 2;39 said if you want to compare teams because you can well it's very helpful.
sorry 3:01 just saw your post, you speak my language. but i would rather they use coefficients when determining their rankings, much cleaner.
3:07 they are claaing it point chasing becuase their own team has dropped of course.In the meantime their clubs have not entered them in state cup, or top out of state tournaments and they are blaming the teams who did enter.
Those teams do not play the same talent level as other teams period. So using your rationale, Ajax, STA and Wildcats play tougher teams than Storm? You are delusional. It shows second level team movement. That is all it really does..... Again, a good read for them but the teams playing the top ECNL NE NPL programs are not playing in the tourneys where they can rack up points. They are playing back to back Sat/Sun games against all of these academy teams. And most are far better than who these teams are playing in any of the tournaments they are playing. Name ONE team that those teams have beaten at a tourney where they got points that are "better" than a Storm like team.....
Are you referring to the list posted by 11:14? If so, there are like 11 or 12 ECNL teams on that list. Almost a third of the teams listed. ECNL is well-represented.
Can't speak for other ECNL teams, but we've played in Jeff CupDelcoSpiritWAGSand will soon play in Bethesda.We play in these tournaments to face good competition, not to "rack up points". But to say no ECNL teams are playing in tournaments is just wrong.It feels kind of hypocritical to put down teams for not being in a tough ECNL league, and then to also put them down for playing in competitive tournaments. The whole thing smells like a way to put down the Wildcats again. Like others, I am no fan of the way their parents/coach post on this blog, but this is ridiculous.I think folks are starting to see through the whole "I hate team X, but I don't want to attach them directly. Instead, I'll attack them broadly as a team that (insert: chases GS points, plays kick and run, plays in a weak league)" charade.
You just do not get it.... ECNL is at a different level. The fact that any other teams are "ranked" higher is a joke. But I know the points make certain teams feel better so it is what it is.... Enjoy the chase...
Now we see who put it together. True colors always come out. Not near as many of these tournaments are played by ECNL teams. They have too many Sat Sun match ups against the other programs.... Funny how the truth always comes out. Thanks for proving the point.
What "top teams" have you beaten at these tournaments????
GS would probably be improved with a "Pts earned per tournament entered" feature. But GS wants teams to chase points. They want them to keep entering tournaments that use GS's software. So they are disincentivized to provide a feature that rewards teams that enter less tournaments, or discourages them from entering tournaments that award few GS points.
Who are you talking to, 3:37?
Entering less tournaments is just a silly thought processIf you think a certain team is overscheduling, just say so.You want a team to be able to play one tourney, second/third flight, win, get 6-8000 points and sit on it atop some mythical table......Good luck with this,Playing games - education.
Spot on 4:22......
"Entering less tournaments is just a silly thought processIf you think a certain team is overscheduling, just say so.You want a team to be able to play one tourney, second/third flight, win, get 6-8000 points and sit on it atop some mythical table......Good luck with this,Playing games - education."Can you write this again, but this time write it so that readers can actually understand it?
NE NPL teams like ajax, mf and dragons are playing better comp in NE npl and edp cup(oh and randolph tournament where dragons played columbus day weekend) then wildcats played in wags, Spirit and bethesda top flight?Now who is delusional?Who have they played other than ecnl B teams in their league.Yes 3:33, it's the wildcats(team x) hater and his I'll attack them indirectly charade. Or pose as injured party and blame them charade.As you say we are all seeing through his agenda.
the ecnl club B team's in NE NPL that the 3 jersey teams play are not a stronger group than Calvert, Pipeline, Hartford, STA, Wildcats, Galaxy,etc in current fall EDP league or that will be in EDL come spring league play.
The problem with the GS rankings today is that EDP is postng league results before the season is over which is elevating teams temorarily. They did this last season as well. A true picture would be to eliminate these points until the season is final and EDP has final standings.
PDA North, PDA South, MF NPL, Penn Fusion, FSA and Connecticut are better than the teams listed in EDP.
4:54Galaxy? Come on.
Truth is Wildcats played all their games at WAGS vs ecnl teams and will play all their games at bethesda vs ecnl teams.Only ecnl team trying to avoid playing outside ecnl league to "rest" is storm.And Storm ended up entering EDP Cup along with Calvert the same weekend as WAGS and getting the "easier points" so who are you referring to as "chasing points"?If wildcats were chasing points why would they enter top flights in WAGS, Bethesda ,etc. they are unlikely to get GS points at those flights and if they do they will certainly be earned and not "chased". Looks more like the only thing they are "chasing" is playing the top competition out there.
4:57 the B Teams from Penn Fusion, FSA and Conn clubs are better than Wildcats , Calvert, Pipeline, StA, etc?Come on very comparable leagues.When you add the top flight in WAGS, Bethesda, Spirit tournaments wildcats enter while you stay local or home how can you say you are playing tougher overall schedule this fall?Wildcats are not responsible for your situation your club is.
Don't forget hartford Maryland team in EDP.Very competitive team.
5:01I don't think you should be throwing Stones at PDA Storm.The comparison in pedigree is not even close.In the next two years your survival is questionable.The Storm under MO will be a significant team.Perhaps the best player from your team may join the party.
MO needs to worry about RU after their collapse buddy. Seems pointless to coach a u13 team when you are a top D1 coach.
@3:33If the ECNL allowed for a system of promotion and relegation with the NPLs, I'd agree with you. But since it's club based and not team based, you can't automatically assume that just because a team is ECNL means that they're better than a REALLY strong NPL team. You must be aware of this seeing some of the lopsided games even within pre ECNL this year. So yes, it is possible that a non ECNL team should be ranked higher. If it's such a different level, how in the WORLD did Calvert win the EDP Cup over PDA Pre ECNL?We all understand that ECNL is where our clubs should aspire to be, but it's not a validation that your own team is better than mine.
7:03how lucky are this kids!
7:03a strong team is a strong team. Inside or outside the ECNL
So 7:42, then you agree with me. The point made in the post I referenced was this:"You just do not get it.... ECNL is at a different level. The fact that any other teams are "ranked" higher is a joke. But I know the points make certain teams feel better so it is what it is.... Enjoy the chase..."This is just a stupid comment. I'd argue that every team currently ranked in the top 20 in NJ, ECNL or otherwise, could have a decent shot of beating Continental FC pre ECNL.
This argument over ECNL happens every year and at every age group. "Elite" goes to your head. Just because "Elite" is in your league name, doesn't make you an "Elite" club. There are very good clubs, and very bad clubs. Get off the high horse already.
Problemn for nj ne nol teams is that the ecnl clubs outside nj(NYE, Mass and Conn in this area of teh country) are nowhere near as deep in talent as the nj based 2 ecnl clubs in this age group.so the 3 nj ne npl teams have very little comp other than playing each other in league play.then you add in the fact that their clubs do not want them as their A flight team in tournaments and you have club and team working at cross purposes. Your clubs focus will always be on their A team and that will always hold your B tam back to some extent.
5:19 Wildcats handled Storm 2-0 in spring.Ready to match up again anytime.
LOL 8:29.I am not a PDA parent but I have a feeling you'll be using that one-3 years from now.
Calvert just beat them as well.Far from on their own level.They are a legend in some of their parents minds.Very good team but very beatable by other strong teams(NJX, wildcats, Calvert) as recent history has shown.
Let them have their moment.... all ends for Wildcats this year. There will be an entire ECNL league above them next year. How is that a good thing for players and team that you think are same level or better than???? Is that the club you want to be with long term? Have fun this season grabbing points. There will be 15-20 teams better than you next year in a league that you have No access to..... Good luck with that long term plan.
Beating up on STA multiple times & lower level EDP teams will get boring. That is why more players on the Wildcats are & have been looking out then outsiders are looking in. I know this to be fact.
So 9:08's argument is that because the ecnl is exclusive, that makes his team better. Again, pda was not admitted to the ecnl based on your team's merits. It was the club. And we all know that not all teams within a club are created equal. Yes, I wish my daughters club was ecnl. But somebody just named Calvert, Wildcats, NJX, and let's not forget Satchem. All non ecnl. All best you within the last six months. If I were you, I'd be doing cartwheels down the street thanking God that the ecnl is so exclusive so you can move on and not have to face the continuous embarrassment of losing to these lesser teams any more.
yes, and there are way too many outstanding players and college prospects in nj at this age group for all of them to play on storm anyway.Only 11 can be on the field at a time for 1 team. There is plenty of great competition in the elite tournaments for highly ranked teams.Everyone who can play at the next level will be seen by the college coaches whether in league, tournaments or regionals and nationals. try and prove your the best team on the field by developing and coaching your own players instead of counting on picking up the players others developed and dropping the ones who have been playing for your club.
10:49If a great player came to your team, you would say NO?Of course you wouldn'tSo stop the Bullshit.and nO there is not a lot of great college prospects in the State of NJ.This is a very weak age group in talent.Most Players in this age group could not make this PDA team... Not because this PDA team is so good . Its because the age group is lacking in Talent.Hows that for a slap In the face.I pretty much know the talent in this age group and besides the girls on Matchfit /PDA a couple on NJX and a couple of girls on a few other teams, not very much to go around.The truth is most of these girls couldn't make the ECNL team at this point.The PDA's and match fits of the world will get stronger and most of the players that will tryout will not make these teams but in the end, so what. My daughter is a scholar and there are plenty of other scholars who will be doctors, businesswomen, engineers etc. This goes well beyond soccer. Stop the bullshit in trying to make your teams as good as the PDA team and club. It's not.It wasn't in the age groups above you- it not in the age group below you- but in the end who really gives a shit .I just can't stand bullshit- freaken dullisional parents with the perspective the size of a pea.Give PDA their due.Your daughter is due for greater things.
Bad day??^^^^^I can't help but laugh when people get so angry on this blog.You are NEVER going to get validation for your beliefs on this blog, so quit looking for it.It's all entertainment my friend, no need to blow a blood vessel over it.Chill out, enjoy Halloween with your daughter, and for god sake's: Lighten up!!
This is a question more for PA guy - but all are welcome.Le's say you believe ECNL is the League for your girl to be in.PennFusionis by far the best team. So is it better to tryout for PennFusion and have to fight for minutes or is better to flock to FC Bucks of CFC Delco, chance at making ECNL team is better in addition to actually landing a starting spot?While your kid might not win many games they will play against some of the best teams in the Region.What's the word with FC Bucks and CFC Delco training? Do they make it easy to take Ls in a league that is all about winning?
The discussion was about individual teams strength, not overall clubs strength top to bottom.Each team is a separate entity, with an individual trainer/coach and it's own group of players with their own talent level and team chemistry.The different teams in each club will be stronger or weaker than others relative to the other strong teams in their state. Looking at their record vs nj teams over the recent months, Storm has not managed to separate themselves from the other strong teams in nj in this age group, period.No amount of anger and shouting from you can change that.What happened in other age groups does not change that.Storm allows too many goals and loses too many games in state to be considered the dominant team at this point. They are certainly right there in the conversation, but not clearly the best.Now what the future holds for nj teams and college prospects in this age group is yet to be seen. It does seem that nj has enough good players to field more teams that are competitive vs the top teams in the region than the other states at least at this point in this age group with at least 5 or 6.The future will answer that question over the next 3 years, and you have no more crystal ball to answer that definitively than the rest of us.That is what makes this fun, it is not all set in stone.
Yes PDA try not to be so arrogant.After all you did not invent soccer in NJ.
"Storm allows too many goals and loses too many games in state to be considered the dominant team at this point. They are certainly right there in the conversation, but not clearly the best."Interesting, I wanted to check myself.It seems that storm Goal differential -Goals for vs Goals against is over 3. Which is the highest of any top 10 team in NJ by a wide margin.So i am not sure if the above statement is true.In 2014. so far, it appears that they have had 1 loss and 1 tie. The rest are wins.So far they have won the spring 2014 edp league with highest goal differential and they are currently ahead in Game percentage in The Pre ECNL league.Not too Shabby for a team that is just in the conversation.And the scary thing is that this team will be better in the Spring.
Actually, the scary thing is your constant need to defend the team, and the club, give it a rest Frankenstein.
Do they give you a book of excuses at PDA for when you lose.. It's our bench players, we have injuries, the coach was trying a new formation..
^^^Are you sure you are not confusing that as the Wildcat book?...don't forget "consolation game" and "goal differential shouldn't determine who moves on in tournaments" :)
Can someone please post the link to the pre-ECNL schedules and results?
nope.. Wildcats don't have those excuses.
Howabout "ties are wins"?
Hmmm. Lot so interesting things to think about in that question, 9:03."Let's say you believe ECNL is the League for your girl to be in.Penn Fusion is by far the best team. So is it better to tryout for Penn Fusion and have to fight for minutes or is better to flock to FC Bucks of CFC Delco, chance at making ECNL team is better in addition to actually landing a starting spot?"Tough call. Hypothetically, if my kid played for PF, and was hypothetically currently getting starter's minutes (at least 50 per game, sometimes 65 per game), I'd be pretty comfortable that she will be able to make the PF ECNL roster for at least the next couple years.But you never know, hypothetically, when a whole gaggle of Penn Legacy parents may decide it is time to move a bunch of those girls to PF for the ECNL experience. And when that happens my daughter may lose some minutes. Indeed, she may become the very type of player you refer to: good enough to make the team, but not getting much playing time. Um, hypothetically, of course.While I have given this scenario some thought, I honestly don't know what I'd do. If she was still having fun despite the reduced minutes, I'd let her stay. I would not push for her to play for CFC. I like the current CFC coaches. But I'm not such a big fan of some of the parental sideline behavior. I'd be much more likely to push for my daughter to move down to the PF NPL team. Or even change over to the local town team, where all her classmates play. Or even have her dial it back to playing only high school ball. I tell her every couple months that we'll keep this up as long as its fun, but as soon as it starts to become a drag, we can pursue other options.That being said, I really like the way her game has progressed in the past year. The ECNL level of competition at practices and games has been very good for her (ummm, hypothetically, of course). But does she really need to keep improving her soccer skills? To what end? Yeah, she currently thinks she wants to play soccer in college, but that can be all consuming. I'd almost rather her join a college intramural league/team than play for the school team. Give her some time to have some college fun for crying out loud.This is a long way of saying, "we'll cross that bridge when we come it.""While your kid might not win many games they will play against some of the best teams in the Region.What's the word with FC Bucks and CFC Delco training? Do they make it easy to take Ls in a league that is all about winning?"CFC's coaches are good. The talent just isn't there. CFC lost three players last spring to PF. So at least those parents believe it is better to get less minutes at PF than to get more minutes at CFC.I have no inside info on FC Bucks except that they score most of their goals because their striker can fly. Once teams adjust to her, I'm not sure they are much better than CFC. I'm sure they are anxiously awaiting to see if any YMS girls will eventually defect to ECNL.That's what will ultimately force our hand. When, if ever, will the best from Legacy, 1776, and Ukrainians defect to PF? Will any Rage and FC Rev families decide to carpool down to PF from Reading? Other PF teams have kids from MD, DE, and south NJ. Will any of them come over for this age group? If and when they do, the odds become greater that my kid's minutes will dwindle. And I just don't know what we'll do at that point, because while I don't want to travel to Boston to watch her sit the bench, I also don't want to give her impression I am no longer interested in her team just because she is sitting the bench.--PA Guy
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