They are a few players away from turning it around. That's all. And that's all it takes. Friend's kid on a team that was bottom of conference when she joined. I tried to talk them out of it because the team wasn't good. Now, they are.
And, team I tried to get them to was Bucks because they have good coaches and bones and they were best in PA, then. Mom considered but it was too far for them. Daughter liked what she saw in other team/club.
FC Bucks best in PA at what? Only one age group had a respectable season. The rest are pretty abysmal. Club is extremely weak. It should improve some with the DA and ECNL being the new second level, but still will be weak.
The post said "then." It was referencing a friend's daughter that moved to a different club but poster was trying to steer her to Bucks a year or two or three ago. And, that friend's kid went to a club not Bucks which team was not doing so well then and apparently, is now. It's all about timing. And, I agree a few top players can make the difference, still. It will turn around. It's a good club.
FC Bucks is a mess starting at the top and then trickling down. Basically the people of Northampton Township are being robbed. No facilities, coaching and leadership. FC Bucks girls are alive at this point because of ECNL, or else YMS would have completely taken over. ECNL will fade over the next couple of years and so will FC Bucks. You are witnessing the end.
I have heard that about many clubs. btw - Jenn Hoy (NWSL) - FC Bucks alum. Interesting you say that about YMS. Didn't they lose a team to Patriot's FC and some kids are playing with a Pittsburgh team instead of playing at YMS? Not trying to diss YMS, nice club, too, but every club has its down times and turmoil. Part of the business of soccer.
Penn Fusion is currently by far the best club in PA 3 teams 15, 16, 17 in champions league. However, many of the top players on all three of these teams are from Central PA. If PA Classics can get its act together, they could rise up and surpass PF in a few years. Central PA kids including reading and possibly even lehigh (although they have easy access to PDA) area, would be happy for an alternative that keeps them far away from the city.
I agree 9:19 AM. Things need to get better and the current teams at the PAC would have all finished in last or close to last place this year in all the ECNL divisions. There is no doubt that PAC can turn things around and if they do a better job they will pull kids from Central PA and Reading that are now traveling to other clubs.
Recruiting and winning go hand in hand at PF. Without the players they have recruited from central PA over the last few years they would be no better than CFC or FCBucks. No wonder the current animosity on here between PF and PAC. And if the CFC/Philly Union rumor pans out and CFC fields a free GDA in the coming years, PF is done.
It's a shame PAC let their girls programs go to the dumpster. They have a long way to climb up with no credibility in the older ages. their best hope is that some of the 02s come back and the ulittles never go to PF.If they had done a decent job of offering developmental opportunities to the best players who ultimately went to PF some directly from PAC, they may not have left. No one wants to be the best player by far, pulling everyone else up around them. They needed to offer advanced developmental play ups/boys to some of these kids. Maybe if these players they would have stayed put in Central PA PAC wouldn't be in a hole now. Its going to be embarrassing watching their 01/02 and 99/00 teams this year get destroyed in the DA.Does anyone even think SK will focus on the girls now anyway? They are at risk of being tossed out of the DA if they can't perform.
Isn't that why they got TW? SK can stay focused on boys as always.The best scenario is to reset with U14s and hope for the best.The club was supposedly into player development while PF was only worried about recruiting. Now classics finds itself looking for recruits bc they realize the results are all that matter as TM figured out many years ago.
The GDA is going to be filled with poor teams. Many of these clubs, like classics have no history of producing top girls teams. Many didn't even exist until this year. Going to be a train wreck. But hey good luck!
PAC never had a good girls program to let "go to the dumpster". Until very recently they were getting PL's leftovers. I believe far more players went to PF from PL than from PAC. Those 2 clubs really should merge. PL's youth development is superb but they have little interest in fielding elite teams. PAC is the exact opposite..
y'all need to give it a chance. I believe the powers that be know this will a couple years of growing pains.Truth is if all but 1 coach are the same at the club, does just adding a new emblem to the team make it better or different? The girls that left are now too old to matter, the local girls see the results and that's where they go.Word is most of the older girls opted for school ball so what does that tell you?
I dont think there will be "poor" teams in GDABut there will be some SUPERteams that set themselves apart. Those that had an abundance to choose from at tryouts.
Yes FC Stars and PDA Sky Blue teams will be incredible. Many of the rest are going to get slaughtered.
Pretty comparing apples and oranges.Look at the regional draw...slight difference in population.Again...give it a chance.
I would expect the Breakers teams to be excellent.
1030 Which team are you saying the older kids elected school ball?
I love when we play against PA ECNL teams, they always bring extra German Potato Salad to drown their sorries, and some even bring utensils...
@11:35 I know classics has this issue. Perhaps others too
PF as well
Wow. Do you people work or just play dress up in your kids soccer uniform all day?
Can't answer for all but I'm sitting here in my tighty whitys..
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10:10, I'm assuming your kid is probably on PF's DA roster next year? Congratulations. But will your kid leave the bench next year is the real question? If she's not top 11 on that 22 player roster I feel far more sorry for you than envious. I'd rather see my kid out on the field anyday than watching her sit the bench wishing coach would put her in the game.
@1258. No worries buddy. No need to educate me on my kid's future. We are all good. Hope yours are too.
Maybe grow up then and stop spewing hate on this board?
Maybe from PF but probably lives in Central PA judging by the personal beef with PAC
149 what hate?
9:19there is a reason the central pa kids thrive at PF. It's because of the other top kids there that compliment them. So, it's a co-mingling of talents from a variety of areas. It's nice that central pa wants to take the credit, but not the reality. Like anything. It's the right mixture of the right kids at the right time very little to do with where they live.
true. some teams that are having current success had central pa kids on them and were not very successful. i would chalk it up to getting better (all of the kids)/more high level soccer does wonders; some very good players that came in and/or moved up; and playing together. And most importantly, chemistry is the key to most successful teams. you don't get it without playing together.
12:14 - best post ever. hilarious better than being in a diaper playing cards, though
Boca spanks pda shore yet again... lol
One central PA Penn Fusion player already made the move to PAC for next season. Wont be a shock if the others follow next year after getting sick of sitting the bench once they combine with the 01's.
One. wow. Did she play in the state cups for PAC, too?
@1:11First off...a little creepy that you're on this blog at that time of night...Second...do you even understand how state cup works?If one player made the move for next fall, how can she be on the primary roster in the last couple months to be eligible for state cup?Stop the hate if you're clueless.
Are yoiu perhaps referring to the girl who lost her ride to training for next year?Wrong age blog no?
9:41 the 'lol' is you felt the need to proudly post that. Now that is funny.
7:19 I believe you are on the wrong blog. I'm talking 02.
Then there are 2 pf girls going to classics in the fall
Word is a third tried out-was not offered. No doubt more 02's next year will head to PAC too once they realize the bench is their new best friend.
The 99 would not have come off the bench for the PF99/00 team. That team is loaded. If that's the kid you are talking about. And another 2 kids 99 and 01 went to PA Strikers. The question to be asked is were they going to be starters on the 01/02 team or 99/00 team? Answer: not even close. The kid going to PDA? now that's a PF loss...
What part is a loss? Her bad attitude or how amazing of a teammate she wasn't?
No one is talking about a 99.
I'm not the original poster but the real " lol" is that PDA shore attempted to lure many of Boca's players then took a beating. I expected much more from Shore last night. 4-1 and it wasn't even that close. Before any one starts, I'm not saying Boca is the best but they are getting healthier than they were early on and are a reputable team. PDA parents must be asking why they didn't take a look at Boca for half the price.
@856 some one referenced PF going to PAC or PDA in and out of 01/02 age group. There are a few kids doing that. Some will be missed (PDA) others not (PAC).
8:48Maybe same girl or a 4th but one tried out and was offered but turned down offer. She's 01. Other 01 is def moving overWord is she likes tryouts at multiple clubs.
BOCA has always been good. They challenge the best teams in the region. Rough spring but they get results on a yearly and consistent basis. Due to byc many teams had rough spring here and there. BOCA does not go to PDA tournament, Jeff cup, Bethesda, casl from what I can tell. You have to be at those places at U15. Perhaps Disney this year, or those in the fall at the least at U16
6:52 - creepy you are on so early in the morning. I do shift work at my job too. Gotta make the donuts.
6:52 - it's called discovery player. Want to call me clueless? #smacked arss go back to tipping your cows.
Boca certainly could not be accepted to Disney, CASL or Jefferson Cup with their slim resume. Those events are very selective. P;us next year at U16 there will be many, many more strong teams applying so it will get even tougher to be accepted.
1:11am is that you?Get some sleep buddy!
discovery player is ecnl bud not pac #smacked arss go back to surfing porn and youth bloggin in the middle of the night
read the 12:14 post on the above recommendation and agree; thumbs up; very clever. now if i could just cut myself out of kid sized soccer shirt.
10:43 - ah come on. don't put your search lists on this, i may have to investigate further. and 1 am isn't me. I just do shift work as well you know after roll call.
Hey 1043 i'd like to chime in - the comment had to do with an ECNL player and PAC. discovery player certainly could have been an option.
My turn to chime in...with regards to the pf players supposedly leaving, going to pac etc...How about if I know 100% the state cup play with future pf player didn't happen?Many things are said on here by trolls just to get a reaction.This could've been a pac parent, pf parent or just an everyday blog troll hater. :)PL parent#yeshesaliveandwell
Discovery player = guest player.They train with their main club and can play in ECNL games.
Who is PL?
11:32 Penn Legacy but I think his daughter plays for Rage now .
ahh. t/y. no wonder they are enRAGEd.
someone told me about this site. It's informative, nasty, sarcastic and witty. Feels like holidays with relatives. good stuff. keep it up.
12:22 you got it!Amazing what an anonymous blog will do for you!
Nope 11:54Not that parent
Does anyone have an opinion about my daughters abilities??
Definitely!! Glad you asked!Overall she's a stud and we can always count on her to step up. Only issue was our last game..perhaps she was at a bday party and stayed up too late?My daughter is having UCLA watch her at next game and I told them to watch your little Mia too. Great things to come!!
9:53 so if you are boasting about the PDA Shore game, how about what your excuses are for the SJB, Cherry Hill and State cup very quick exit games. Non competitive defeats from what I see. You don't have any right to be crowing about beating the PDA D team. Please.
@2:45. Wasn't boasting. Just got a chuckle that shores bs blew up in their face. I'm sure we can all agree it's nice when Pda parents are quieted. Made my night. As for SJB? Most impressive team I've seen in a while. Really played well, strong throughout the lineup. Clearly the best followed by NJ Crush. Saw them at tuckahoe and they were a strong, tight team too. Cherry hill we beat in the fall and couldve again with a little luck. I see them as an equal peer. Like Boca,maybe just below the top 3-4 but in the top 8. No shame in that. No excuses either, all teams have issues and we had ours, came thru them and are rising. Which way is shore trending? How confident are you that others aren't looking around at options that see results for less $$$ ?
It's funny that you parents boast about rankings when the best teams don't bother chasing points. PDA, Matchfit, World Class would crush most of your top 20 teams according to Got Soccer. Chase the points all you want, your teams are second tier to the top dogs!
Does anyone know why Leah Scarpelli was dismissed from the U17 National team, heard it was attitude based, shocking...
Most likely bc of the attitude like the last poster 6:15"I'm the best, please kiss my a**"
Within two years, players from Central PA will no longer go to PF. Having kids within the boys DA system I have seen very few players traveling a distance outside their playing region. Kids travel when there isn't a DA option. We know the coaching at PF isn't very good and the recent success of PF has been based off of recruitment, not development. PAC will be fine in time. I understand it's all about today, but by the time your 2002 daughter is heading to college you will see the younger PAC teams will start to develop and fit into the GDA system.
MatchFit will crush who ? Puleeeze .
Stats guy please list current qualifiers for NPL Finals, National Cup and Region 1 tournament.
6:35 Dad has been digging her grave with the elite coaches for years. What goes around comes around. Elite soccer is small world. "Arrogance will always reap a harvest rich in tears".
635 - are we supposed to put names out there? may want to use initials, only. btw - she is a fantastic player.
8:38 - are you on replay and the same poster saying the same thing over and over again? no one cares. let it play out and see. are you afraid you made a mistake because that is what it seems by the desperate postings. if i was even considering for my kid, these silly, desperate posts would make me think otherwise. you are not helping your cause.btw - PAC boys are not even in playoffs. Did that start two yrs ago?
11:46 (aka girly-man) Leah Scarpelli is a very strong and talented player, and I don’t mind saying her name, since USSF uses it all the time, but since you insist, LS, how‘s that, better? Also heard that she has left PDA for CS DA, anyone confirm that? So maybe she got the boot from both??
12:28 why so negative. So she didn't make the team this time, maybe the other players earned their spots.PS. Why do you care if she moved or didn't move anyway?
11:52 It sounds like you are the one who's worried . Maybe you are on the sinking ship and finally see the writing on the wall. The truth hurts .
These are kids! Stop using names!The fact that you are following her this much is a bit creepy.You are sick!
12:28PM No names. Even worse then it's a kids name. What is wrong with you??
What is wrong with me? Besides voting incorrectly last year, not much. God Bless the United States Constitution, so that NO man, or woman, may rise above it.
You're not alone having voted for Hillary But please stop using names!!
12:28hey small hands...actually, i am a girl.
1:26 - nope. not on any sinking ship; quite the opposite.
Here you go 6:12...GO PAC and Pulisic!!!!Where's the PF player on the MNT?
hey 5:54 go to the boys blog. Where are the PA players on the WNT?
Our ECNL team is not accurately reflected on GS and I am sick of hearing on Facebook how great everyone's kids are. I am not upset that we didn't get GS points, I would rather we had none. GS points need to go away! They are singlehandedly causing overuse injuries.GS should penalize for loosing, make drastic changes to the algorithm, or just go away.The current GS model is making coaches play more games to chase points. The coach needs to do it or kids will leave. Over 50 games in a season is crazy! 15 of top 20 teams are below 60% win percentage. 60% is a failing mark... That is only slightly above half. Instead of listing W-D-L record, everyone says where they are ranked. It's sickening and gives everyone a false perception of their team/kids ability."My kid will get a full ride to a great D1 school because her team is in top 10 of state ranking. Her knees and ankles are in severe pain but we will get a weeks rest in July to recover." This is ultimately being driven by insane parents who want to win at any cost. Stop this madness!!!
Amen!That is exactly why I like the DA model. They have rules and don't exist on GotPoints, sorry GotSoccer. Wish we had one in South Jersey. Hint! Hint! It would help a little if ECLN/NPL gave some points. The showcase tourney that gets nothing hurts too. It doesn't help when the Region-1 league is giving out 8,500 GS points and crowning a National Champion.
What are you guys living in a cave - Youth Soccer rankings has been the place for over a year now to get your fix.
Oh, I thought ECNL was better because winning didn't matter and it was about showcasing, now all of a sudden if your team doesn't win more than 60% of their games they are failing.How pathetic is it to get upset because other people are posting on facebook about their kids success but your kid's team is "better" than theirs.
8:39, please shut up, and take a look at what hard work, and talent, can accomplish.2017 ECNL Champions League Playoff Draw:Group BReal ColoradoLonestar SCSan Diego SurfWorld Class FCGroup CMichigan HawksJacksonville FCConnecticut FCCASLGroup GPDASlammers FCSLSG-MOColorado RushGood luck to all the clubs!
9:29 This is my favorite debate. Winning will always be needed unless your club has pull and is part of an inner circle, which is okay. ECNL is all about participation awards for it's member clubs - look at the northeast division 70% or 10 of the 14 teams qualify for the post season and that's okay that's their format. USYS uses a slightly different model and their slogan is "earn your spot" if that NorthEast ECNL division was USYS only ONE team would advance not 10.Teams getting GS points are successful in Gotsoccer events and others that are added manually. They sign up to play games, they win and they get points nothing wrong with any of that. If a team is playing 50 games maybe because that's the way they think their players can be seen. Is it right? it's different and to each their own.
Thank you Commissioner Bob of USYS.Any day, any place, we would love to smash your precious Region 1 juggernaut.May God have mercy upon your souls, have a nice weekend!BTW Bob, Its only 3 teams to the top flight.
June 9, 2017 at 8:52 AM , yes the DA model is wonderful, no over-use or burn out there. Just 4 practices a week, then travel and 2 games each weekend, come home late sunday night and do it again. 12 months a year. Sure, sounds wonderful.
Any time 9:57 - ECNL has a Champions, North American and Showcase flight.Not sure what team you are with but our team has played ECNL teams many times and beat them while playing our girls equally. CASL no longer mixed them up and Jefferson cup remains the only place to mix them up we will be there in the top flight see you in March, unless your kid has made the GDA team in which case good luck to her and enjoy the quality.9:59 it'no different than today. Play HS practice every day for about 3 months approx 60 sessions, subtract out the 20 games or so that leaves us with 40 practice sessions and 20 games enter club ball 3 training sessions a week for 9 months add another 96 sessions for a total of 156 practice sessions. Club also play around 30 games so that bring us to 156 practice sessions and 50 games played. GDA 4 sessions per week is 16 per month x 10 months = 160 practice sessions with a bunch of less games. Give or takeCommish BOB
Actually, 10 months of training2 days of team training1 day speed/agility training1 day game video analysis 1 game every weekendLet's not forget scouts at games and showcases.Yes, that, is pretty good. Don't be a jealous hater.
9:59 AM It is obvious you don't know what you're talking about. DA teams usually play one game each weekend, with the exception of makeup games or tournaments. Also, 4 practices a week do not mean they are on the field at each practice. Every match in the DA is filmed, and most clubs will use a day for classroom film and chalkboard sessions. In addition, DA clubs will have strength and conditioning sessions as well. Good luck with your daughters laps around her HS field, there is nothing like those double session practices in late August
Dude Christian Pulisic was developed by his parents not by PAC. They used PAC when he lived in Hershey before he went to Bradenton. I was there I have an older boy. The only thing PAC did was allow his dad to tee him up for success. Made sure the teams played his style, that is play the ball to his feet because he wasn't winning any 50-50s, played him the ball preferentially for that matter and most importantly kept him on the field when he was very small. If his dad wasn't in control he wouldn't have been offered the same opportunities and wouldn't be where he is today. Guessing his publicists is telling the family to play this as it was all Christian's doing and they just didn't "ruin him".
You can't convince people who aren't on the GDA to agree with the GDA. Haters, hate. But here are FACTS for you haters. The GDA is having a scrimmage this weekend. Here is the list of collage coaches in attendance and more are signing up each day. Did I tell you this was just a scrimmage. Can't wait for the real games and showcases to start.1. University of New Hampshire2. University of Hartford3. Providence College4. Wesleyan University5. Southern CT State Univ6. Iona College7. Quinnipiac University8. Eastern CT State University9. Connecticut College10. UMass-Lowell11. Univ of Bridgeport12. Marist CollegeOK, now you can blow me up and say how pretentious I am, that my kid is miserable, and I am living through her. Fact is that I did not want her to do it. She researched it and talked to a bunch of soccer people. She weighed the benefits vs HS and made the decision. Now I am supporting that decision and letting her live out her dream. College coaches told her that this is the best path to take. They told her there are many other paths but this is the best for what she wants. You can disagree. That is your choice. If the GDA doesn't fit your narrative, then continue to hate on it and blast it on this blog. Not every path is best for every kid. So now take one thing I said and twist it to fit your justification to hate on the GDA.
11:13 thanks for the topic. I will but heads with you on this one.you said the below 3 things that people have been saying forever about player selection. 1. played his style, that is play the ball to his feet.2. Because he wasn't winning any 50-50s, 3. played him the ball preferentially which kept him on the field when he was very smallWe all see what he has become - UEFA Champions league goal at 18 and full NT player who was the star last night along with Nagbe in my opinion. Both small. he was allowed to play and develop. His size didn't matter and he developed. Play ball to feet,isn't that what you are supposed to do? because he was allowed to play he developed into a world class player - how many players ride the bench because the coach loves effort and play these players even if the player has less skill (most) to win. Well it looks like they cared about development and saw the talent that he is at very young age when most would not have played him. SO CONGRATS TO HIS DAD for being in control because if he wasn't his kid would have sat for a player that was bigger and more aggressive (not a bigger heart just looked like it). Same goes to Subotic back in the days how he couldn't make our YNT was beyond me. But now I've seen first hand how things work these days.
9:52 - college coaches know that - got me some soccer points - does not tell the full story don't worry about the other team. if your kid is playing on a well respected club on a descent team that plays or is trying to play good soccer, then don't care about their chase.
11:50 - as they are ne schools (ct/ri/nh/mass) schools, i would assume up that way.
I heard about the GDA scrimmage, is it true that James Comey will be there? The rumor is someone is a Russian agent, is it your coach, what’s his name, Vlad something?
11:22 AM I love fact checking but on a board like this it is not easy if even possible. The colleges listed are not anything to cheer about or sneer about. It actually looks like the same list of colleges that will be participating in the Northeast Summer ID Camp. They are also attainable across a broad spectrum of players/teams/leagues. When I was 15/16 I researched the car I wanted, did my homework and talked to mechanics thought about a motorcycle as well as walking, but I realized that if I had a nice car I would be the envy of my friends...even if I couldn't drive it. Impressed that your daughter did her research and hopefully that is what she wants, but doesn't everyone want the shiny new thing if it is offered. I'm sure as a parent the first thing you did was post to FB that your daughter made the GDA, hyped it as the path to the Olympic team. Let me know when the coach takes off the training wheels and the shiny Cadillac (team) needs to go into the shop a few times to re-tool. If your daughter is still on the field congrats, "she" made a good choice.
Actually I never posted a word to facebook or any other site. I think that all of that bragging is BS. I never posted that she made ODP, never post tournament victories, and never post when she scores a goal. I honestly don't understand that mentality.Like any new thing there is a great deal of risk involved. Like buying that new car. The first year a new model is introduced, there are a lot of bugs to be worked out. Other times they put in an oversized engine with a luxurious trim package that makes the initial investment worth it's weight in gold. You never know. This could all blow up in our face or be the chance of a life time. Don't hate on us for taking a chance that you wouldn't. Stay on your route if that is what is best for your family. By the time this age group sees it was if it was a good choice or not, it will be too late for the ones who made the wrong choice.
Don't understand the mentality - Bragging? it's called being proud of your kid and their achievements and wanting to share with friends and family her accomplishments. Nothing wrong with that but there is something wrong with someone being jealous of that love, you are taking something very pure and simple and turning it into something it is not. This board is just like Fox vs CNN same story two totally different views and people will side with the one that'son their side of the fence.
GDA might be good, but the previous poster had it right that it will take several years. They have to shake out what teams are involved, the procedures, what works, what doesn't. And parents know this. Year one is shake out. year 2 is starting to build. and Year 3 maybe they have something good. US Soccer is not smart if they were they would not invite college coaches right away. new teams, new stuff, no chemistry between teammates. you don't invite in the food critics day 1 opening a new restaurant. I know some very savvy parents who are sitting this out. And its 4 sessions weekly with 2 games every weekend, with big travel and big costs, and no high school. If ECNL didn't exist, they might get out of the blocks strong. but they are not.
1203 you aren't buting heads you are agreeing with me. Had CPs dad not managed his career and he was only a regular PAC player. SK would have sat him on the bench or relegated him to the B team and he would have never made it to where he is today. PAC provided his dad the venue and the pool of other players to choose a team to play for him that maximized CPs development. For that any one of DA clubs would have sufficed for his purposes. FYI No playing balls to feet doesn't work when your style of play is play it to the fast big kid to run onto.NO I didnt say: played him the ball preferentially which kept him on the field when he was very small. I said played the balls to his feet so that he didn't end up in a lot of 50-50s AND kept him on the field as opposed to on the bench or on the B team when he was smaller than the other kids and PAC style was big, strong and fast (and my kid was a big strong and fast kid that TW himself loved)The quote you seem to have difficulty comprehending was - Made sure the teams played his style, that is play the ball to his feet because he wasn't winning any 50-50s, played him the ball preferentially for that matter and most importantly kept him on the field when he was very small.
Your friends and family are sick of you posting every win and goal.
2:32 - very funny and true!12:03 - you are having a hard time following along. Let me try to put this simply. there is ONE game per weekend. Two weekend days, one game. Not two. Got it?
"2 games a week" is fake news.Look up the schedule. GDA is has only 25 games between Sep 4th and June 2nd with just 1 weekend having 2 games. Showcases not included.
so 4 sessions a week, Monday to Thursday, drive 4pm after school about 6 hours to virginia, spend monies on a hotel, play one 90 minute game with a roster of 22 kids and substitution rules which i believe limit it to 6 subs 17 total kids and 3 sub opportunities so no way coach takes off your top 6 kids other than in the last 10 minutes. and drive 6 hours home get home about 9pm on Saturday. Have sunday off. squeeze in home work on Sunday. Wake up monday. repeat. 40+ weeks. yes, wow so much better that its only 1 game per weekend!! Good luck with all that.
don't waste your time supporting GDA vs. all other soccer stuff. they won't get it. Columbus was going to fall off the end of the world too because the world was flat. The naysayers have always been around and will always be around.Do what you feel is good for you, your daughter and your family. And, if you change your mind, you have options. Good luck.
Just curious, what percentage of GDA teams will be made up of former ECNL players, any guesses?? I am not completely sure, but I would say 95%, that is very telling, no??
7:47 pm Boy you sure are scared that the GDA teams are going to wipe out your team, Huh?
No games are far enough to be worthy of a hotel for us. All within 2 1/2 hours. Perfect.
Dang it. Like getting wasted in front of my daughter's friends at the hotel bar. oh well. guess i will just have to show up at the field already in the bag :)
Ahhh. And the Piano has been drinking, not me. love that song. classic
How much does the DA cost. does anybody know??
It varies, but you already know that, what is your agenda?
I've signed a contract with DA not to discuss its fees. My lawyer advised me not to discuss it or disclose the contract itself.Anyone that discloses the DA costs will either be a faker, or their IP traced and their contract terminated.
I heard it costs more than its worth : (
5:22hilarious. wiki leaks already on it.
It depends on the club and how good your child is. My daughter has signed with one of the clubs, and her tuition is much cheaper than I was paying at Crush
Boca wins top bracket against good academy teams.
6:49 All ex 2002 crush players got a discount!2:01 it varies on the club, age group .. and sometimes on a player1,544 - Number of players to receive full scholarships from Girls' Academy Clubs6,400 - Number of projected Development Academy girls' players for inaugural seasonhttp://www.ussoccerda.com/20170516-two-clubs-added-for-girls-development-academy-inaugural-seasonThat's 1/4 girls getting a free ride.
Does anyone know how much for full amount (no discount or free ride) to play DA? Is cost for boys same as girls?PA Classics?Penn Fusion?Sky Blue?Cedar Stars?Not counting travel expenses, just registration and training cost. Nothing is available on the different club websites. Most posters say registration is less than ECNL so prove it!
Don’t know about those other crappy clubs, but NYCFC is $2600 and NYSC SKY BLUE is $4000, but my kid plays for free : )
PDA Sky Blue is $5,000
9:19Not sure why so concerned with costs.If your daughter is playing then you know what she's paying...PAC is $2000
PF is $3000
10:32 I don't maybe to compare the market? Maybe they have some younger kids, maybe they are with the club and want to know where their fee falls, who cares why they care? This is where a board like this can be helpful. Trying to figure out the legit posts from the fake news well that's another story.Going by recent posts GDA for 25 league games, 120 training sessions, 3 showcase events +playoffs if they are good.$2,000 PA Classics$3,000 PennFusion$4,000 NYSC Sky Blue$5,000 PDA SkyBluevs my kid's team.$2,000 for 14 league games, State Cup, Bethesda, CASL, Disney, Jefferson, PDA and a TBD showcase + 80 training sessions. For my kid who is not a YNT prospect but is D1 college material is just right for us (still expensive but it is what it is). It's not ECNL where they have 3 top notch showcase events and they do CASL and Jefferson in addition to the 3. So basically, it comes down to Bethesda, Disney & PDA vs the 3 ECNL showcases and since PDA is both it comes down to San Diego vs Disney which is a wash for my kid since west coast is not in the cards and Bethesda which doesn't compare to any ECNL event, but they do another event.If my kid was YNT material price wouldn't be what I look at - it would be the brand and it's connections.
Why would you trust the information provided here?How will you compare the programs? What exactly is included? Uniforms, coach travel costs, frequency, duration and structure of training? Number of games/tournaments included?
My concern is if I am over paying. I want my daughter to excel but I don't want to be taken advantage of. All of this is new and I don't want to enter uninformed of the competitions cost. I think our price is too high and I want to know what the going rate is. Same as any major purchase that I make. Just doing homework.
11:06Are you trying to convenience those that went GDA that your route is better? Pretty sure they went the route they did because they found it wasn't for them.Just noting, too, that you left out league play whatever it is (nat'l league; regional; EDP; NPL). So tack those games and travel/lodging on to your expenses as well. Nothing is perfect. Just have to find the place that fits best for you, family and more importantly, your daughter.
Prices provided are not real they are provided by trolls. Good luck trying to ease your anxieties.
11:21B the route we took was better for my kid, my wallet & her skill set.Just putting out some details from our situation. You make what you want of it. At my kid's club uniforms are extra everything else is included in the tuition nothing out of pocket besides travel.You are correct she plays about 14 games less than she would with the GDA assuming she played every game and like I said she is not YNT material and would have to fight other D1 kids for minutes/games which is now out of her control since we all know coaches play the players that fit their style, she is currently at 80-60 mins per game to risk going to potentially 20 in her sophomore year was way to much of a risk.11:13 you don't - but I put ours out there, you'll know if it falls inline or not based on what's included.11:21A I am 11:06 and I don't blame you for asking the question. That's whY I gave our situation which falls in line with NYSC regular team not their GDA.
Yes, troll here, I have absolutely no clue what I pay for my kid to play GDA. smh
There are 4 prices listed. I doubt you have 4 kids going to 4 clubs and know it all.
Club costs are correct for PF and PAC even if you think dude made it up
btw, if you search web you can find costs for most clubs.
1:37 this must be hard for you to comprehend huh? I only listed the price for my kids GDA. Not all 4. I'm no troll. I see no reason not to answer someone's basic question.
Game uniforms were offered at no cost. I assume this is the same for all DA teams.
Wow - another 8th grade commit for Rutgers.Sick.
Rutgers has three 8th grade commits this year that are public. All three obviously are PDA players, the last commit is moving to PDA for the Fall. All good players. Will be interesting to follow over the next four years on how they progress etc. Long time till the letter is signed, anything can happen. My opinion and I'm nobody is its too soon, but if your in 8th grade and know exactly what you want then hey you have less to worry about I assume about getting into college. My daughter is waiting till sophomore year to entertain any offers if any. Good luck to all three, I hope their dreams come true.
I wish all 3 the best of luck, but from my view, 8th grade is waaaay too early. The verbal commitment is not a binding agreement on either sides part. They may end up there, but they may not. Does the same 50 mile NCAA rule apply to players that have verbally committed to the school that is coached by their club team? Does the verbal commitment get around that? Just curious.
3:32pmIt is interesting but if an 8th grader has good interest from a school with a wide selection of majors why not commit. I also think Rutgers is an "In State School" so tuition is also somewhat more attainable for a player from Jersey. Are there other Colleges tied to Club programs. I know that St. Joes and Villanova coaches are active at Continental and FC Bucks and you will see players from those clubs committing to those schools. My daughter has a more narrow major so she needed to focus on specific schools, she was fortunate to find a school that had her major with a team that needed someone at her position.
Question is - is a Duke, a Virginia, a UCLA going to stop recruiting a 2021 because she has committed to Rutgers?
4:07 So what happens if an NT player shows interest in the same school as your kid just prior to signing day? Will the school turn away the player? Probably not, what happens to your kid - if they pull some money from your kid since all she has is a verbal as a Freshman?
4:07college coaches connect to most clubs in some fashion. it's called the pipeline. nothing new.
What site is it listed that these kids committed verbally?
All I can say is wow. Not sure my 8th grader would be ready for this.Best of luck to her. This could be the best scenario or the worst when she finds out the coach found a new toy somewhere else.So Duke offers her a spot anyway...does she turn it down?
4:51pmIf that's how it works then I guess the girl who committed as a freshman did not do her due diligence to lock-up her deal. I would be interested to hear an early commits story to see how it actually works. If you commit as a freshman in highschool is there a specific $$ associated or is that determined over the course of the full class recruitment. As a freshmen commit I believe the college coach is just confirming that if everything works out (admittance wise) he/she wants you on the team. Committing as a freshman helps sway the admissions board and fast paths the application but the school wants to make sure the grades and educational effort exists. So coming out of 8th grade as an honor roll student is good but sustaining that level through HS is expected and falling below can derail the process. As a parent you could say that is a benefit of committing early, knowing that your daughter has to maintain her grades a well.
you are talking admissions to state college; not private. not as rigorous, usually.
Of course you switch and go to Duke. It's about the education. The goal isn't about playing women's professional soccer.
haha - so that is what the kids that aren't academically eligible for state colleges do? switch to private? haha you don't default to a private college.
11:24 AM No you default to a state school and not play :) I think the point the original poster was making is that committing to a private college as a freshman is more difficult as the admission criteria is much higher. My older daughter had her pick of state schools (D2) and D1 but held off on committing until the spring of her Junior year, and committing to a D3 private that has a great balance of soccer and academics in a very beautiful campus. Far enough away from home to be independent but close enough for us to get to games. For her major she would have played 4 years but gone 6 based on the additional off campus requirements. The coaches were trying to also persuade her to a different major. Committing at a younger age leaves a player susceptible to some suggestions that may be better for the coach/team than for her.
12:59pm. Thanks for a cognitive post my friend. lol Great information
If you verbally accept as an 8th grader to say Rutgers and junior year Duke offers you best take that degree from Duke. No brainer. Soccer severed its purpose.
The club would rather have you in the team photo with a Duke hoodie verses a Rutgers hoodie anyway. They have enough D3 Rutgers kids already (NOT a slam on D3) and want to show diversity. They want to use you for marketing because they got you that scholarship.
no, YOU (the kid) got the scholarship. the club helped facilitate it. but never forget the role of the child in this and the work they do both academically and athletically.
Exactly. Also very few full rides.
What happened to the Kittycats tonight? Shutout. But the did comitt more fouls.
Obviously this kid did most of the work. I was talking for the club and their feelings towards the situation. They really think they are the only reason a scholarship was awarded. My point is that they will continue to use you, even after you are gone. They only care about where you are going and how they can market your success and hard work to recruit more players. They don't define the level of monies, just that you are in. Don't ever forget that this a business in the end. A proven track record of consistently sending kids to top schools is their main recruiting tool. Problem is that the C & D teams in this big machine think they will get the same exposure and offers. Funny how you never see their picture.How can they make money off you when you are here.How can they make money off you when you move on.
12:10 AM I know it's bad to feed trolls but I thought I would offer some free Therapy. And quite honestly I don't know who the kittycats are. But if you feel like you have been wronged by an organization or a coach you should really take it up with them. If you are looking at vindication because you left an organization and feel like pointing out losses makes you better...it doesn't You are not more successful because of someone else's failures. We left a PA team a few years ago, they were middle of the road as was the team we went to, the only time I was happy when they lost is when it was to the new team my daughter was on. And mostly because my daughter's team won. So do yourself a favor and forget about the old team unless your playing against them, and then act like a decent person no matter the outcome. I almost feel like you are one of those Friday Night Tykes parents.
7:29 - don't assume the kid did most of the work. sometimes, and not saying this or these, are the case but there could be other things in play that have nothing to do with ability or dedication like politics, connections, getting a kid on the cheap (not a lot of $$ spent, if at all, some just like getting a spot), etc. there are so many variables in these matters.
Are there playoffs now for some of these leagues or are these season now just about over?
Lots of playoffs! NPL this weekend, ECNL and ODP next weekend. Yes Jersey ODP are in the region 1 semi's! Go Jersey!
What a set up question. Good luck in odp. Just so you know, ops is dead.
You were able to wait 13 minutes... nice.
Yeah i thought 2:58 and 3:11 were the same poster also.Funny stuff!!!
Yep. ODP is a joke. Club teams are enamored with taking kids who have this status. Meaningless now that you have the DA. Many girls who have ODP status did not make various DA's.
There is room for both:ODP - "Individual" for that player who likes their local club team and can't pay the high Academy cost or can't travel to the DA 5 days a week. High level players can move up to Region and National level where competition will be higher or equal to the DA. Also, Regional and National exposure will be close to DA. Unfortunately you need to show up with the skills because training is very week. DA - "Team" is for the player who wants, can afford, can travel for practices and games. Better environment for learning team tactics and training will be better than the Academy/HS mix that most are opting for. Exposure WILL be more than all other choices if sales pitch from US Soccer is true. Missing the social aspect is a individual choice that should be made with realistic goals in mind.
Agree with all. But remember the DA is being run by USWNT. Therefore not sure why ODP will conintue to exist. Olympic Development Program is now the DA.
ODP will exist because the state and region YS offices need it to!It is needed to justify their jobs and importance. They will go against US Soccer and offer ODP as an alternative to DA. ODP is expensive for players and if they loose that revenue stream they will no be able to pay the staff. US Club is slowly killing them with a better carding system that allows more freedom to clubs. US Club is also taking "would be" ODP candidates into their PDP program. The strategy of having USYS board members inserted in local leagues to keep USYS affiliation mandatory will not work much longer. The State cup and National Championship is the only reason they will be afloat in the next few years. Watch that entry fee skyrocket. Give it time before USYS is the way of the buffalo. They are already a shell of their former selves. I guarantee that members from YS state offices are on this blog soon pretending to be concerned parents who are against the DA.
It's good to have options, but to many water down the product. This is the natural evolution of everything. There is no direct path to College Soccer/Pro Soccer, it is all up to the folks making the decisions at the highest level. So take US soccer and USYS and whatever alphabet group there is and at the very top you have people who think they know what they are doing followed by those on their coat tails who hope they know what they are doing. There is a great Gatorade commercial out that shows a Basketball player and the basic script is that this kid is #1 in his league, but there are 100 other #1's in his state and multiply that by every state (they don't get in to the possibility of international competition which is a big factor in colleges recruiting soccer players). So USYS and US Soccer are making the determination of who gets to the front of the line based on their local minions evaluating players, notice I did not say talent I said players. Because #1 at Continental at u17 vs #1 at PF vs #1 at PAC are the same on the field, skills, and ability, but the PF/PAC girl is at PF/PAC , PF/PCA gets the DA and DA is the path to the next level now. Sure the Continental girl may get poached, but she is starting with less credentials than the known. Then there are the favors and the cost and a lot of other factors. Sure for the UNT at U17 you may get a competent team but there are 11 other girls that would compete against the 11 on the field and beat them. So while DA has it's place atop the Soccer mountain in the US the ODP and ECNL and EDP and NPL all have girls that should be in the top 1% that won't because of not being fortunate enough to impress a coach at the local level and by impress I mean have the right connections/cash. My suggestion is to determine where you want to be as a player and enjoy it when you reach your goal.
Only when there is financial incentive to id talent will the talent become the most important thing. But there are drawbacks to that system as well. Is what it is...a biz with the player's families as the customers.
If the USWNT is backing the DA that's all you need to know. ODP is dead and is already watered down.
Da is for rich kids (with a few exceptions), just like ECNL. You need to know that too.
US Soccer DAUS Youth Soccer ODP, National LeagueUS Club Soccer ECNL NPL
Oh boy..not in my neck of the woods. Nj will slaughter some DA teams if that is the correct order in NJ.
1:50The cash is the only thing making me feel OK about not doing DA - though as reported a decent % will be on scholarship.
"The rich stay rich" and "...spend money to make money"It's the American way, like it or not.You have to look at it as an investment. Future employers love people who showed they could balance sports and academics. As long as the scholarship is worth more than club fees you win.
Well....wish i could agree. I see my nerdy classmates are the ones doing well right now,financially any way. Soccer is worthwhile but it is not an investment.
Some ECNL teams and club teams are more than the DA.
and some apples are oranges...Who cares about this mine is better than yours crap.
So many care. Main reason forums like this exist.
3:03, 99.999% of the entire world population will NEVER know NOR care about the difference between GDA, ECNL, NPL, EDP, JAGS, ABCD or HIGH SCHOOL. if you are talking resumes now, for real world stuff, not soccer jobs or joining a soccer team, but real resumes, as many will tell you, listing high school varsity captain on your resume goes 10x further than listing gda cedar stars. of course we all know the difference, but employers dont care nor would they know the difference. if you want great kids who know how to balance stress and the rigors of things, stop crapping on high school soccer. it gives the kids some things that all the stuff soccer does not.
Getting a scholarship to an Ivy league looks even better than being a captain of HS.
6:25 - it may behoove you to learn a few things. Ivy's don't give athletic scholarships. Not dissing an opportunity at an Ivy league school. Not at all. When schools make offers, you have the ability to negotiate based on your child's ability and where she may fall in the evaluation process with the college coaches. And, grades are important as well as ability as noted in the previous paragraph. In some of the recent posts, it sounds like some bitter posters on here as far as opportunity. Some opportunities have to be sought out. They don't just fall out of the sky. And, the best kids no matter what league they are in and what team, are easy to see and usually known. As they get older, they like to play with others that have similar skills, soccer iq, ability and desire. Opportunities sought out. That's the key.
The Ivies "find" plenty of money for athletes.If soccer is the difference between getting in and not (to an Ivy) then the 2/3 that is paid by endowments to me counts as "scholarship".
Heard that PDA was going to scrimmage WC tomorrow morning at PDA complex, guess 0-0 was not good enough for either club, hahaha!
Well since they are only two of three tri state area ECNL teams to make the championship brackets they should scrimmage each other. Who else is going to get them ready for the tournament? Definitely not your daughter's
Stop getting defensive 10:38, no slight to either team, they are both strong, should be a great match. The competition next weekend will be challenging, wish them both success!!!
Who coaches WC now that WC coaches moved to NYCFC?
How about a Non-ECNL team? Those teams would play a lot harder - but we know the ECNL is not about hard.
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