@September 30, 2014 at 10:53 AMAnonymous said...With the amount of tournaments the teams play, it costs money. If you are not paying 3K, you are paying 2.5K. Throwing the money thing out there just shows bitterness. The pre ECNL and NE NPL are deeper leagues. You have solid games EVERY week. The other leagues have talent but you will only get 2-3 solid games. Then the talent pool falls off the cliff. That leaves the majority of your games against inferior talent. You will have way more 4 plus goal differential wins. Not a good thing in my book. I would rather have my kid playing tough games ALL the time. That is why the college coaches live there. They want kids who have to grind it out every week. Again, not for everyone, but you cannot deny that this is the way it is.....September 6, 2014 at 11:37 AM
EveryoneFYI I'll try to keep it short & simple.Four components to the game of Soccer, Futbol, Football.One could argue that they're all equally as important.*Technical*Tactical *Physical*PsychologicalSpeed is one part of the Physical component which includes several other elements like, Aerobic capacity, Aerobic power, flexibility, agility, Muscle endurance and more...FOR ANYONE TO THINK THAT IF A PLAYER HAS SPEED THEY CAN AUTOMATICALLY PLAY AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL IT IS COMPLETELY 100% IGNORANT. EVEN IF THEY HAVE SPEED + EXCELLENT TECHNIQUE, STILL MIGHT NOT BE ENOUGH.For example at the pro level many incredibly gifted players (fast, Strong, talented) fail to make it because for some reason they're unable to perform when everyone is watching them (Psychological element missing). Therefore many average players who have no problem performing, in practice or in big games, at a good level(consistent Players) often have lots of success at the college or pro levels.***MYTH*** "ALL PRO SOCCER PLAYERS ARE FAST" if you don't believe me research it??? Plenty of big & slow center backs playing in top leagues around the world.pro-sff
some others who have had GREAT careers without top speed. At every level of play, players can excel without being speed demons if they possess other qualitiesAndrea Pirlo - one of the best mids of our time. Xavi - quick as heck, but he's not gonna win many races over 20 yardsCarlos PujolMichael EssienFrancesco Totti
The battle to advance to the next level is among those who are trying to advance on all those 4 fronts. Not an easy task. Any one can be the player's Achilles heel. The psychological game is perhaps the one least specifically addressed in my experience. Too bad as it is critical. I wish the coaches would discuss this area more. What techniques did they use as players to have a strong psychological game? Parents need some education around this too.
"You have solid games every week"No - you simply do not
Ok all you speed freaks go check out the FIFA wold cup stats page and get back to us. Range is 20 kph to 33 kph. So how did all those slow guys compete?I wouldn't consider Michael Bradley fast but he covered a ton of ground which is what was needed in that role.
Again, if you take out Continental and FC Bucks, it looks like a pretty competitive league. Bucks or Continental have been involved in 12 out of the 27 games played so far. That's why every other game looks like a blowout.Remove those results and you're really just left with a couple clunkers by Albertson.There are ten talented teams in the pre-ECNL, and then the talent cliff drops dramatically for the bottom two. It's a league with 9 out of the top 25 Region 1 GotSoccer teams in it (alas, no Match Fit Pre-ECNL). It's a really good league. But feel free to pick on it if you like.Penn Fusion SA 01 U13 Pre-ECNL 0-2 PDA 01 U13 Pre-ECNL Match Fit Academy 01 U13 Pre-ECNL 0-0 East Meadow SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL Penn Fusion SA 01 U13 Pre-ECNL 1-1 World Class FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL Match Fit Academy 01 U13 Pre-ECNL 1-0 Albertson SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL World Class FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL 0-1 PDA 01 U13 Pre-ECNL Albertson SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL 0-2 East Meadow SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL Boston Breakers Academy 01 U13 Pre-ECNL 8-3 FC Stars of Mass 01 U13 Pre-ECNL East Meadow SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL 0-1 Penn Fusion SA 01 U13 Pre-ECNL FC Stars of Mass 01 U13 Pre-ECNL 2-3 Match Fit Academy 01 U13 Pre-ECNL Albertson SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL 3-2 Penn Fusion SA 01 U13 Pre-ECNL Boston Breakers Academy 01 U13 Pre-ECNL 4-3 Match Fit Academy 01 U13 Pre-ECNL FC Stars of Mass 01 U13 Pre-ECNL 5-0 Albertson SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL Boston Breakers Academy 01 U13 Pre-ECNL 0-2 East Meadow SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL FC Stars of Mass 01 U13 Pre-ECNL 0-3 East Meadow SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL Match Fit Academy 01 U13 Pre-ECNL 1-2 Penn Fusion SA 01 U13 Pre-ECNL Boston Breakers Academy 01 U13 Pre-ECNL 6-1 Albertson SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL
I think most Knowledgeable parents know that speed is not the end all be all in the more advance level of the gameBut you must remember , you have some kids that are fast and the parents have always known these kids as being the standout on their teams, unfortunately most coaches exacerbate this by putting the big fast kid at CB or CF. These parents are also not in a program where technical skills are demanded on the field. I very rarely see a coach bench a kid at the u10 level for running over another kid instead of making the extra pass or talk to fast forward who is able to kick the ball forward in front of him and just out run the defender because he can.(- This kid would be better served in the middle where he has to use his feet passing skills and technical ability to "1st touch into space" But coaches want to win Now, so they put the big fast kid up front or at CB where they can do the most damage early on in their career.Unfortunately these kids are a victim of bad coaching, Ignorant parents and immediate gratification.On every team there is a fast kid that was put out on the edges way too early and their game is one dimensional. Most are just beginning to have a hard time because they can't out run the opposition any more. They will become frustrated.Some will find themselves on the bench. Some will leave the game.Coaches are to blame here and parents as well
Speed is simply one of the easiest variables to identify at the younger ages. Parents most often equate speed with goal scoring ability. Elements like vision and toughness are much, much harder to quantify.Speed can be nullified by :Physical play and/orPossession and/orTactics and TechniqueDon't get me wrong, it's a nice variable to have, but ask yourself what percentage of the girls represented in this thread are going to play Pro, much less play at a D1 soccer program.Teams that rely on speedy forwards to play dump and chase are essentially reaping short term benefits at the expense of long term development. And if, per chance, that speedy player is plucked by an ECNL team, what does the remaining team do now that their source of goals is gone? What else will have been developed? All that money essentially has gone to the development of one kid.Over the long haul, these games mean nothing. But, as mentioned before, playing as many quality games as you can against better competition does bring out the variables that future coaches will be looking for. Relying on speed alone is about as reliable as relying on GotSoccer points to determine if another team is better or worse.Context, people, context.
Original poster of the speed question here. Thanks for the input, it made me really think. Soccer nut you made alot of good points (as did the other poster). I think I'm now leaning towards agility training/quickness training. This might increase 'explosive speed'. My daughter plays center forward/center mid and doesn't have the lateral speed to be on the wings. I'm glad I could turn to the blog and get some constructive advice.
Some really good points here.For those of you that have a really fast player at the younger ages, find a place where the coach is not going to put your daughter at forward or CB.Let her play center mid at the early ages.if he tells you that he wants her up top because she is a scorer or she would be tough on defense. Find another program, Play her up.- so she is not the biggest fastest kid on the field, and then work on nothing but feet and touch , passing and movement.
Think we all agree you need all to stand out at next level. All of these kids on top teams will keep fine tuning their technical skill and most will get better. The ones that also possess the speed will move on. Tough for one of these girls to work on get faster.
September 30, 2014 at 12:40 PM ... I am with you. I am the long winded posted that likes to hear himself write ... lol.
I have noticed at quite a few of my daughters games players are flat footed and don't anticipate anything. Only time they make a run is after the pass has been made. It they had anticipated the pass/play they would have a couple yard head start on the defender but they wait too long and now its a 50/50 ball. Game smarts and intelligence puts u in the right spots so you don't have to outrun your opponent all the time.
1:04- Thats a great point.Girls who were bigger and faster dominated on smaller fields and younger age groups. As the girls start to mature and physical dominance is diminished they will need to be more technical to create their space.Of course it is an advantage to be very fast but I would rather have a player with a higher soccer IQ. If you have both, anything is possible.
28 NorthEast Girls NPL games played and only 9 with a +4 Goal Differential for the entire season. I guess MF NPL is the negative talker on NE NPL since 5 out of their 7 games have had a +4 Goal Differential and their other 2 had a 1-1 score line.1. FC Bucks 01 NPL 0-5 PDA South 01 NPL2. Match Fit 01 NPL 4-0 Albertson SC 01 NPL3. Penn Fusion SA 01 NPL 4-0 FC Bucks 01 NPL4. Continental FC 01 NPL 0-4 Match Fit 01 NPL5. FC Stars of Mass 01 NPL1-6 Match Fit 01 NPL7. Albertson SC 01 NPL 0-4 Penn Fusion SA 01 NPL8. Boston Breakers 01 NPL 0-5 Match Fit 01 NPL9. PDA North 01 NPL 6-1 FC Bucks 01 NPL10. Match Fit 01 NPL 5-0 FC Bucks 01 NPL
knocking of EDP Central League last spring season was always ridiculous.
1:31 Oh you mean Mister league play is only for "D" as in Development and State Cup is where you play to win and really have meaningful results.
September 30, 2014 at 1:04 PM ... your points are well taken and I agree with them with a couple modifications ...Being flat-footed is a condition which could contribute to the player being slower or having achilles or plantar fascia problems. But I think you mean that they are standing and waiting instead of anticipating and trying to make things happen. Agreed.As far as anticipating a pass - I will go a step further. Its the actual run from the player that makes the pass - it gives the player with the ball the idea in the first place. This proactice play is sorely missing and it comes from a place that has absolutely nothing to do with athletic ability - it comes from the mind of the soccer player and desire and willingness to play the game off the ball. Far too often we see the forward just glancing back over her shoulder waiting for a ball to be delivered that she can run onto. It is working far less for them now when speed has caught up and defenders are more savvy at the higher levels. These players need to be taught to make lateral and diaganol runs, to hold up the ball instead of thinking everything is immediate and vertical. This also all comes from coaching and the brain and has nothing to do with physical ability. Execution is another matter, but you'll never get there is you can't evolve the players brains.Far too often overlooked - the eyes and the brains. Not many of us realize the importance of all of this and instead thinks its all skills, speed and physical things. This aspect of the game is severely undercoached and one reason, among many others, why we lag behind in men's soccer and a reason if we don't change things, we will not lead in the women's game for too much longer.
Enough with the complaining..... The ecnl and npl are strong but not deep this year. Next year they will be off the charts difficult and extremely deep. No other league can even compete with it this year let alone next year. So I ask, where would you want to be??
Goal differential after seven gamesMATCHFIT PRE ECNLSpring 2014: +8Fall 2014: +5MATCHFIT NE NPLSpring 2014: +6Fall 2014: +23PDA NE NPL NORTHSpring 2014: Played JAGS, Doesn't CountFall 2014: +20PDA PRE ECNLSpring 2014: +15Fall 2014: +8 (only 3 games)PDA NE NPL SOUTHSpring 2014: +4Fall 2014: +8 (only 3 games)We'll welcome you back to EDP with arms wide open anytime, girls. No hard feelings.
This was a nice conversation about the merits of speedIt all started with a simple question and then followed by respectful discourse.I believe that this blog was created for these types of discussions.I have 3 children playing Soccer, one at the college level. One at this age group and one just beginning her career, I have been around a bit and have been both delighted and bitterly disappointed at some of the top programs in the country and in some of the so called professional clubs in the Area. ... No truer phrase applies to youth then "Buyer BeWare"......No matter the pedigree of the club.Hope to engage in another discussion soon-Soccer Nut-
September 30, 2014 at 1:04 PM - nice post. I agree with one comment ... It shouldn't just be a matter of anticipating a pass, but that is a place to start, meaning they see a player on their team coming out of a challenge and start getting wider and moving up-field as it is happening. I would call this reading the game and reacting accordingly. However, add to that the ability to make the run off the ball that actaully is the impetus for the pass being made - the run gives the ball holder the idea and opportunity to pass the ball. This is creativity off the ball. Movement makes so much happen in soccer. Even if that player did not get the pass, while I can be frustrating, it can move defenders out of their previous spot making that newly vacated area something to attack via dribble or pass. When they start doing this, then they have started really playing the game.But when you see kids at U13 looking over their shoulder waiting for the ball to be passed in front of them, you know how far away from this our COACHES are in conveying good soccer to the girls. I blame this on the coaches and the system. Because a coach that sees a player standing and waiting like this waiting for a pass that will basically amount to a no-talent foot race that most will lose at higher levels, all the coach needs to do is pull that girl off the field, tell her what he expects instead and put her back in later. Replace her for the meantime with someone that can being to get this creative requirement. Naturally, the girl will figure out the equation and know that if she wants to stay on the field, she will need to adapt. Meanwhile, you reward the girls that are taking to the teachings.Ah ... but back to square one - the teachings need to be there.It sure isn't coming from high school coaches. And far too little of it from our so-called higher-level travel and academy soccer coaches and paid trainers.
I'm missing your point, 2:35.Is it your assertion that a league comprising:East Meadow SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL Match Fit Academy 01 U13 Pre-ECNL Penn Fusion SA 01 U13 Pre-ECNL Boston Breakers Academy 01 U13 Pre-ECNL Albertson SC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL PDA 01 U13 Pre-ECNL FC Stars of Mass 01 U13 Pre-ECNL World Class FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL Connecticut FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL FSA FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL FC Bucks 01 U13 Pre-ECNL Continental FC 01 U13 Pre-ECNL is the same as a league comprising:NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH CES CALVERT CREW WHITE NJSCA GALAXY PIPELINE SC BLACK HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 LEHIGH VALLEY UNITED LVU 01 GIRLS JERSEY PREMIER SOCCER FLASH MATCH FIT ACADEMY FC BLACK Is that what you're arguing? Granted, swapping out Continental and FC Bucks for Wildcats and Calvert would make for a better league.
Dear Soccer Nut,Are you more of a cashew, or a peanut? Based upon your posts I would guess an almond, yep defiantly an almond.
Soccer nut,Your comments exhibit you have an understanding of the game that is higher than a lot of bloggers out here. Keep it coming - and throw some macadamias into the mix here and there.It's all better than trashing teams, comparing teams (for goodness sake .. U13 girls), the occasional blah, blah, blah you see and certainly better than those that express ideas like "if you think so much is wrong with American soccer, then how do you explain the WNT success" and any other comment that shows the blogger is not interested in looking any deeper than speed, strength and U13 dominance.
Edp cup schedule posted.
Great post 302, couldn't agree with you more. This Blog needs more of Soccer Nut & GS Points Guy and less of that 50 Mile NCAA guy (thankfully he is in hiding, I think & hope) & anything against any club whether its PDA, MF, Crush, Wildcats, whoever. Will never happen though given everyone has their own agenda.
NE NPL has its midgets but the strong teams at least get to play each other. Is it twice, fall and spring? Even better.Dragons v AjaxAjax v NJXNJX v Dragons- Oh well........maybe it IS quite weak....Tuneups for tournaments
Sorry, you said Penn Fusion second team wad good as well, so there's 2 more decent games
Penn Fusion NPL has been better than advertised, with a tie against MF NPL and one goal losses against the two PDAs. Still waiting for that signature win against a "good team" though.Penn Fusion pre-ECNL has two good one-goal wins over MF and EM. And a bad loss to Albertson (after going up 2-0, gave up three goals in final 20 minutes...similar to their meltdown against Penn Legacy: gave up four goals in final 30 minutes).You can give these teams any label you like: average, worst of the best, best of the worst. Tough to tell after seven games.
I also see the below result against a strong PAGS team?8/2/2014 FC REVOLUTION FORCE (PAE) 0-1MF NPLPDA SouthPDA NorthPennFusionConnFCand Maybe FSA.Let's leave FSA out of this compare. Forget about Pre-ECNL flight because that flight is sick. The FC Bucks of the world will get better as well - playing 22 games against these types of teams will make a team better as they start to adjust to the speed of play.EDP Central hasNJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH CES CALVERT CREW WHITE STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01The others might be in the same boat as the Northeast NPL Teams not in the top 5 and not in the bottom 3.
@ 4:21U listed wildcats but have they played a game this Fall other than beating randoph 6-0?
I noticed that also, why hasn't Averbuch played a game yet, what is the reason for this logic?
wildcats play STA and Lehigh Valley in League Play this weekend.
Schedule shows LV and NJSA not STA. Interesting no September games at all. Someone injured?
5:38What was the score?
Soccer nut = #2 ?50 mile guy = kitty cat coach ?
Good Lord - can we raise the intelligence level here a bit?Wildcats can only play what their schedule says to play, plus any friendlies they may set upThey would not be on here crowing about the friendlies......Just get off theier case already.
Not True at all Wildcats are intentionally trying to reschedule games, They have beg EDP to get out of playing NJCSA Galaxy this weekend and EDP has allow them to cancel for no apparent reason!!!If they claim to be the best why are they scare to play???ANYONE??
@ 9:08Schedule says they play NJSA Sunday and STA in November.Is there a reading comprehension issue? Facts are they were scheduled to play NJSA but asked to cancel game. Should we use smaller words?
The guy can't help himself.He is obsessed with Wildcats.What are they doing, who are they playing? do they have injuries?how many players do they have?How can I emphasize their losses?How can I denigrate their wins, their league,their tournaments, this years state cup in case they do well?Stalking a 12 year old girls team every day of your life?See a Doctor please before your head explodes.
NJSA Galaxy be careful what you wish for.You may be writing a check you can't cash. We will meet you very soon.Count on it.
EDDP allows reschedulesNPL does notGreat league - NPL.Wildcats have a Cup game do they not? Dont wish to play 2 in a day. I dont blame them.
Not for nothing but Wildcats at a much different level than NJSA.
6 am - Not true, very similar level of play.
EDP allows a reschedule for legitimate reasons and many teams have played twice in one day. So only tart responses from cats but no facts provided. So why wont you honor the Sunday game scheduled?
@ 12:30I hear your coach only accepts cash so no checks less you forgot that little point.
Didn't Calvert play 4 games in 2 days few weeks ago? Why can't Cats play 2 games on Sunday if necessary?
The bigger problem here is that the Cats have nobody of substance to play anymore...... All the better teams have moved on.
Well they have someone on the EDP schedule to play "of substance" this Sunday but are backing out. Why?
Because they are desperately trying to prevent another Boca loss in the watered down state cup. All about perception at that place.....
Dudes the next round of state cup is the 19th.
7:55 you really believe LVU is of substance?They dropped games to NJSCA Galaxy and Pipeline this past week and beat a team they have played in PAGS.NJSCA tied Harford and Beat JPS and LVU who only have MF below them on the table.I don't want to talk smack, but keeping it real NJ Wildcats, Calvert and STA should be the top 3 and taking points from them will be an accomplishment if you are not one of these 3.
They were referring to STA not LVU
BTWOf course rescheduling needs to happen when there are state cup games, tournaments, champion league games and regular league games to juggleto say the Cats are skirting playing a team is a reachSeeing as NJSA is a local team also, it will be much easier to fit in anytimeCalvert played 4 games so they didn't have to travel every weekendMultiple trips out of state is another reason to reschedule to play more than one team per weekendso your points are pointless
"so your points are pointless"Agreed. I'm no fan of the Wildcat attitude of "What about us? Hey, what about us? Hey everyone! Let's talk about us!"But this is just ridiculous. Just an effort to bring their fans and coach out of hibernation. I say let's let them lay low for a while and rehabilitate their reputation.
Wildcats don't have a second game this Sunday THERE ARE NO STATE CUP GAMES SCHEDULED FOR SUNDAY 10/5If this team has scheduled another EDP game for Sunday 10/5 The question is.. what's the reason for not playing the team the were originally schedule to face on that date and choosing a different opponent??Wildcats win or lose it doesn't matter just play the game, play a game before you get Disqualified from SC for not playing a single Qualifying Game.Suspect......
Is the "why won't Wildcats play us" guy the "50 mile" guy? Both are very annoying. Move on.
if you decide to spend your time blogging, where you have no idea and can't pick who you "invite to the party", you should expect annoyances. Get over it or find another place to spend your precious time where you'll be less annoyed. Signed - Not 50 mile guy or Soccer Nut or Mr. Kitty Kat soccer poster, whatever the heck that is supposed to mean.
It seems to me you have some things to "get over" as well, 10:05.After all, shouldn't you expect the annoyance of other posters expressing their annoyance?
I love how 9:45 basically is yelling with the all caps WE KNOW THERE IS NO STATE CUP GAMEBut, there is a major tournament the weekend of Nov. 14, 15, 16.Could that be why they are playing STA this weekend instead.You seem like you are very angry with that team
yes, Wildcats(among others) are playing in the Bethesda Tournament 11/15 and 11/16 and had to move their game with STA which was originally scheduled for 11/16. This Sunday 10/5 was the only date Sta had open to come down to wildcats.We had offered a number of other dates and none of them worked for STA .Wildcats are also trying to set up a date for a doubleheader in maryland so they don't have to make 3 separate trips there for 3 individual games in maryland as per the schedule.
I am not from NJ but it seems that having to explain a team's schedule is crazy. No team should have to explain when they are playing and why.Some real issues in NJ
1013amWildcat ParentMoving the STA game to 10/5 would make sense except for the fact that they're are skipping a game they had already schedule for the same date, time and location which creates another scheduling issue. NJCSA is going to Bethesda as well, so are most EDP 1st div teams what's your point.
Agreed just work together to make it work for everyone.'Between state cup, league games and tournaments there has to be some flexibility as these teams will often have multiple events scheduling games on the same day. Seems like whoever is making a fuss over having to make adjustments in their schedule is new to this type of league.Is Galaxy Team new to this level?I have never seen this type of complaint from one of the teams in an NPL/EDP league.
The question is what's your pointYou have no valid point except to keep spewing about a rescheduled gameGet over it dude You are way too frustrated
Point is STA is very far, a few hours away from OceanPort and STA couldn't come down to the Shore area on any other open date on our schedules.Is your head a rock or what.Galaxy and Wildcats are both local Shore area teams and it will be much easier to reschedule as we can always get a lighted field and play during the week if necessary.
Galaxy should be more worried about moving their MatchFit game instead of the Wildcat ScheduleBoy oh Boy
I think STA's home field is only an hour away from Long Branch (Wildcats) which is average for most EDP teams. very far???
to 10:09 - I am not annoyed. Just having fun with the idiocy and absurdity of it all. If this site annoyed me, I wouldn't keep coming back for more. And btw, shouldn't you expect the annoyance of other posters expressing their annoyance at other posters expressing their annoyance at other posters expressing theirs ?I'm like HELLO. Get a grip.Now let's get back to talking about soccer related things.I'd be extremely happy if we broke this blog into 2: 1) those who want to talk about the games and results and schedules and relative strengths of teams and 2) those that want to talk about the soccer experience, good and bad, development, coaching, styles of play, ideas for development etc.I suppose both are equally valid discussions, but I am very interested in one and not the other. Not to take anything away from the other. One topic concentrates on the measurements of talent/systems with scores, standings leagues, match-ups and rankings, while the other topic deals with how to make a better soccer player and the pros and cons in the development process.Are there people out here who like to read and blog about both - I gather some. Maybe if the site admin is reading this, he/she can consider such a proposal.
You can sign me up for # 2 on your list.#1 seems to turn into a "my team is better than your team point of discussion"Any topics to discuss?
Whole issue is a headache but let me summarize.Wildcats and NJSA scheduled to play Sunday. Wildcats can't meet their commitment for STA game.Instead of rescheduling that game Wildcats and STA work out at screw NJSA deal to play Sunday.Wildcats now want to schedule midweek at their convenience.Wildcats have yet to play a league game but are able to dictate other clubs schedule.EDP allows legitimate game schedule changes. No idea what loose criteria EDP allows uses for legitimate.Can we get back to how slow /fast each kid is now?
you are one angry dude
You want to address commitmentsLike how your team was established in the first place. Talk about playing dirty and you are nit picking about a rescheduled gameGet real
Wildcats have given njsa 4 weekend dates when both teams are off on their schedules.Pick one and we won't have to play midweek at night and we can all move on.STA could not come down the shore on ANY of the open dates on our schedule.
I heard that things are not so great at NJSA and that players are looking to leave and that other clubs have already been contacted
Not surprised, judging by their spoiling for a fight over minor scheduling issues before they even start their first year at this level.
Wildcats you should really start looking for a new club as your doc is desperately trying to merge with any legitimate NJ Academy program to try to save his club from falling apart.Unfortunately for you, he's been turned down by everyone.Also your coaching staff is Brilliant lead by an Unqualified, chair throwing, Crazy F license coach. No to mention all the good things your doc is known for.You should be proud!
South Jersey-you are polluting this Blog.
There is a Slick North and a Slick South now.
Slick North and Slick South??????? Any explanation on that one?
Can someone please put a video of how to fill out a state cup app on U-Tube?
Slick Sr. and Slick Jr. about to join forces.
can anyone provide either the link showing the teams at our age group or just provide the brackets for the EDP Open Cup?
Wildcats and NJSA are South Jersey? Since when
Its clearly a league foul up.NJCSA - get the EDP guy on the line - you have a legitimate gripe.They should not have OK'd the reschedule without checking with you first
11:37 not a word of truth in your post.Your nose is growing Pinocchio.
did NJSA Coaches Dog eat the State Cup Application?
9:21 NJSA coach talking to himself and answering his own posts.His next move obviously will be to try and not play Wildcats at all.
Maybe NJSA did apply, but SC officials felt they were over qualified?This year SC for town teams only.
Where is the EDP open cup draw? According to their flyer, 1st games are supposed to be played by 10/20. Most teams are in a tournament next week. Doesn't leave much time.
Are there 2 NJSA teams? Did they both not enter?
NJSA Elite entered under Manalapan Dynamite. Players are carded for both teams. That is why you do not see NJSA Elite listed.NJSA Galaxy is the one posts are referring to as the team that did not enter properly
Enough with the NJSCA not registering, registering wrong. MOVE ON.
11:31 someone has to take responsibility for that gaffe at an Academy Team at this level.Parent and players should be made whole.Our girls missed out on the biggest event of the season.Why should it just be swept under the rug.Not supposed to happen at this level.
11:31 That is true.If this happened to one of the teams at PDA or MF these same parents who are saying move on would be in an uproar over missing the event they were charged for and promised over a lack of oversight and quality control of the team.
9:24ameverything said by 1137 is pretty accurate. you should do a little research before you call people liars unless you're the chair throwing coach trying to deny some of your usual player intimidation methodsHow many people witness this event 30-40? after losing a U12 Girls game really???said whatever you want about everyone else it could help you look a little better.
11:55 -"said whatever you want about everyone else it could help you look a little better"WHAT???What kind of English is that?Why are you attacking other coaches when you are the only one with Repeated Red Cards and continuous instances of berating officials and attempted intimidation of Referees as a Coach and as a player over a period of years, including this year and with your current team.
Wildcats are killing this blog. Its exhausting reading through their posts.Wheres my League Guy? List and gives previews of good pre ECNL/ NPL games this weekend.GS Guy, will GS points be awarded for pre ECNL and NPL Fall results/standings?
1155Did you throw the chair or not?
No pre-ECNL games this weekend.Only NPL game is World Class NPL vs PDA NPL.
Looks like its time for some tournament predictions:Bracket 1 PENN FUSION SA '01G ECNL (PAE)BRYC 01 ELITE (VA)CREW JUNIORS CREW JUNIROS GOLD WEST (OS)TENNESSEE SC 20 (TN) Bracket 2 NJ WILDCATS AVERBUCH (NJ)FC VIRGINIA PRE-ECNL 01 (VA)LAKE FOREST SA LFSA GU12 SELECT (IL)TRI-STATE FA TFA ELITE 01 (OS) Bracket 3TOPHAT 20 GOLD (GA)NEW YORK SC G01 (NYE)PWSI COURAGE 01G RED (VA)HARFORD FC UNITED THUNDER (MD)Bracket WinnersCrew JrsTri-StateTophatWildcardPenn FusionSemisTophat over Crew JrsTri-State over Penn FusionFinalsTophat over Tri-StateBracket A CREEKS SOCCER 01/02 CREEKS KRUSH ELITE (FL)ALBERTSON FURY '01 PRE-ECNL (NYE)HMMS EAGLE FC 01 SPIRIT (PAE)1776 UNITED XTREMES (PAE) Bracket B PENN LEGACY FC 01 BLACK (PAE)NJSA 04 GALAXY (NJ)UKRAINIAN NATIONALS BLASTERS BLACK (PAE)PIPELINE SC BLACK (MD) Penn Legacy over 1776 in finals.Any other Columbus Day tournaments? Where will the other ECNL clubs be playing?
Thanks for the predictions, but I am not driving 6 hours each way to lose to TopHat, f-that.
I'm sorry is this the new Wildcat coach we are talking about or the old sit in a chair smoke a cigar coach?#Justryingtokeepup
12:52, I have another prediction for you.You suck.
"Thanks for the predictions, but I am not driving 6 hours each way to lose to TopHat, f-that."And if you are lucky enough to get that far, you get to take a vacation day to watch the finals on Monday.
Thanks, I will, I will be watching my daughter and her team play for the championship, what are you doing next Monday, mowing?
"Anonymous said...12:52, I have another prediction for you.You suck.October 3, 2014 at 12:57 PM"Translation: I suck.
11:37Sorry but match fleece has enough of problems on their plate to worry about the state cup. They are still trying to figure out who their coach or trainer is. Is it the DOC or the other guy? One trainer training 40 kids at one time. Sorry we don't have time to worry about the state cup, we have a very competitive schedule to worry about.
Tophat, really, you are picking those southern bells?Wait, I hear another bell, its the sound of doom.We will, we will, rock you.
I have been on the team since he came on as coach and our coach NEVER threw a chair.And has never been red carded.You should examine your own coaches behavior before you start throwing stones at our team.
True, but I did hear that he softly tipped-over a red colored chair, does that count?
I beleive Match Fit's 2 teams entered in NCS State Cup lost in first round to small club teams.
1:07 I think he fell over backwards when trying to get up out of his chair by accident and it broke.It was finny, but unintentional.He and the girls got a good laugh about it later and ribbed him pretty good.He has lost a lot of weight since and hopefully the new chair will hold him.
1:04- Your coach spends his whole day out here attacking other teams, parents and players. Throwing a chair is far fetched?If we cared so much about your teams daily routine we would bring our daughters to your tryouts.Get back to work so you can pay for more mandatory/additional training.
come on.. who is the chair thrower. I am so confused.
njcsa has some issues, all teams do obviously, guess what folks, even the NY Yankees have issues, guys doing drugs, using vaseline to goob up baseballs. And of course NY Yankees not winning....... lately. Again the passion the red card coach has is nice, girls like it, parents get it mostly. Do you want your daughter to win or lose, what does she want to do? ask her! If she wants to lose go play rec, if she wants to win play on one of the teams listed on the blog, if she is good enough, remember, that is always the caveat. Lets call our daughters the top 100-200 players in the state if they play EDP?? Agreed??
Just an FYI for those that are actually confused - MF has 4 teams at this age level:Pre-ecnlNortheast nplBlackBlueBlack and blue entered into cupAnd are we talking about the old wildcats coach who was chair throwing?
NO Wildcats Averbuch Team Coach EVER through a chair.Or ever been red carded.Never.
but wasn't it the old Jaguars up and coming team that the Match Fit people told parents the college coaches would soon be coming to recruit one of the teams that got knocked out in the first round of state cup this fall by an unranked non-NPL team?
old jaguars team is now MatchFit ECNLOld NJX team is MatchFit East NPLThen there are two other teamsMatchfit BlackMatchfit Blue
MF ECNL is in EDP Open Cup
Ok, let's try again:the "falcons" are the MF PRE-ECNL teamNjx is the MF NE NPL team"Jaguars" are MF black teamNew team formed is now MF blue teamAnd I believe black lost 1-0 against manalapan dynamite, who is also NJSCA elite, so calling them a town team is a stretch
OK, they are a B team
Who threw the chair?
Classy Freddy Blassie
To bring some levity......... Go BOCA
LOLCan he even pick up a chair. I heard he has to sit down during training.
3:09 funny, but that is certainly not true.
The old guy with the stogey is out? WTF He threw a chair. I saw it. The real question is at who - Ricky Redcardo?
He is in better shape than all of you. The man is a machine.
Who is Slick Sr. and is a Slick Jr. his son?
Slick is the old coach of gfa. He is now making his roinds around mf at u13 pre ecnl u13 ne npl and u14 ecnl. Mf has all of their eggs in one basket. Can't wait for her to see you later Im going to pda. Which we we all know will happen.
I heard she already signed a contract with Barcelona Womens Club.She will leave for Spain at U15.
According to mf she can play u15 now. Whats a fifth team.
My daughter has been asked to replace Abby Wambach
Blog mod wants to censor now.....maybe should just shut down this rag of a site. Opinions anybody?
Good for her.
Heard U15 because nobody wants her or the nasty comments she says to the other girls. 13's or 14's don't want her. Frankly who really wants to have stuff thrown in their face and be told the team sucks from some newcomer.
This family has some real enemies.
DudeLets leave that talk on the U14 board
Can someone honestly answer if it's not your team or club why do you care about all the crap that's been talked about on here for the last three days? ... To hopefully put an end to it I will finally admit that: I threw the chair, I fell out of the chair, I botched the SC application, I caused the NJSCA - Wildcats - STA fiasco, I approved a girl playing on three teams, I collect red cards as a hobby, I have the 201st best player in NJ living in my house (that makes her 4th in PA, 6th in VA, 17th in MA and 2nd in the nation, and finally I am the one who decided which MF team would be the pre-ecnl team.I am Sam, Sam I am...
You obviously care and read all the stuff because you have just given a summary of the past 4 days, so who you trying to fool......you love this board.
Yes, I do that's why I summed up all the nonsense. It's getting stale.
http://events.gotsport.com/events/resultsgrid.aspx?EventID=40107&GroupID=398570EDP open cup
If you remove the 5 PDA and MF teams, who are the top NJ teams? With so many teams disappearing (EB, Rage, Force, SMSH) I don't recognize most of these new merged teams.STA, Crush, TSF, NJSA ???
4 PDA/MF teams. Not 5.
11:31- Think the Fall NJ State Cup will answer that question. Final 8 and Boca all good teams.1:58- Think they were trying to exclude ECNL/NPL teams.
@ 2:51All 8-really.
NJCSA Galaxy parent or coach: YES, you're a genius - our U13 Wildcats live in fear of playing your team. My daughter and every other girl on the team from what I'm told, has incessantly wet their beds, pooped their soccer shorts, and has woken up in tears in the middle of each night since the schedule came out dreading the day they had to play FC Barcelona....I mean NJCSA Galaxy.Honestly - what kind of parent are you? Kids play soccer for the love of the game when last I checked. Then again, it might be your kid sending out Snapchats to kids on other teams talking trash. I thought that was reserved for pro basketball, but hey, I guess you never know. Personally, I'd save it for after the game, but you probably already have the score logged in for submission.
So to try and slowly get back, opinions seem to be, at around U13/14 if, again, if, if, if....... daughter is possibly going to make a college run = is that when you make the move to PDA/MF because quite honestly they were/are college coaches, or know many and can begin the process freshman year lets say with academy to college transition??
finally a normal post -
Wildcats must have won today! Parents sound excited looking to pick a fightSo Sad
Anyone want to start predicting EDP cup bracket winners?
5:42 - first PDA/MF are not the only clubs that can get your kid into college.second, form the looks of things PDA Pre-ECNL, North & South NPLs & MF Pre-ECNL and MF NPL are solid teams to begin with. If, if if you make this move is your kid ready to battle everyday for a roster spot and ARE YOU ready to sit back and let PDA and MF do what they do without any hate?I think next year you will see PDA & MF in ECNL for sure plus 2 PDA and 2 MF teams in NPL. SO yes there will be opportunities, but I can also see these clubs stock pile talent to keep talent away from the other.
@ 5:12So no game analysis just a random rant. So what was your win like today?
@512 Totally classless.
I'd love to see an upset at esp cup. Don't know who would be likely to pull it off. STA seems improved.
Atletico all the way!
New England NPL and Virginia NPL have games tomorrow in addition to the 1 North East Girls NPL game. NYCSL NPL is off this weekend. So I will post some scores tomorrow. Someone else can post EDP scores. They really don't take care of their league pages. They still have NYSC and Manhattan as NPL clubs - and we all know they split for NYCSL NPL since I've been posting scores. So if they don't care about their league why should any outsider?
Don't CENSOR Slick!
Just looking over the league websites. Is this info correct?ECNL has PDP programNYCSL NPL has PDP program for our age group (OCT PDP training session)EDP has TIP program - I am assuming their EDL NPL players are available for this as well.North East girls NPL does not have a PDP.PDP and TIP programs are Free ODP programs?If these programs are free and invitational only programs that hold the coaches accountable for referring players not up to standard, it's safe to say that these players are tops in their league(s).If your kid plays in one of these leagues and is not invited, State ODP programs are an option but is it worth putting your kid through this for an extra 2K if they weren't invited for a league based program used to identify it's players what shot do they have at ODP - where politics runs wild
Dear @6:02, @7:30 and @7:39:To clarify: we didn't pick a fight - check this blog for the last three days. No mention of you, your team, or your coach by anyone associated with Wildcats UNTIL you accused 12 year old children of being afraid to play your team. THAT is classless, clueless and sad. But hey, if it makes you feel fulfilled as a person (or people), God bless!
9:32pmStop being so dramatic and grow up. Everyone knows the players don't make scheduling decisions. PLEASE STOP
@9:44:You can't be talking about the coach or our group of parents, because I can assure you we are all LOOKING FORWARD to playing your team, as I'm sure you and your group are for playing us.Also, thank you for being grammatically correct - it's hard not to be when you have spell check, but I guess they haven't filled your coach in on that yet based on his earlier posts. Good thing they don't red card for flagrant spelling errors.
Frank stay off the blog!!!!!!!!!
I'm not coach Frank. Sorry. On game day we can shake hands and I'll confirm.
yes you are!100% Freddie BlassieLOL
Say what you want about WAGS - top flight worth it - but if not it top flight - EDP Cup nothing to sneeze at. Bracket 1 is stacked and the flight value will be very high is GS is your cup of tea.Girls U13 U13G EDP CUP PLATINUMBracket 1ATLETICO FC GIRLS '01 (NYE) FSA FC U13 GIRLS PRE-ECNL 01 (CT) PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY STORM (NJ) STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ) Bracket 2CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD) NJCSA ELITE (NJ) SABA BROOKLYN CITY (NYE) TSF ACADEMY 01/02G (NJ)
"Classy" Freddie Blassie back in actionplease don't hit my daughter with the chairlol
MAPS/EDP tournaments to end Fall - EDP Cup a home run for a local event. MAPS Cup not in bad shape just needs 3 strong GS teams to enter and join PA Crew (PAW) and Harford (MD)EDP CUP 2014 FALL [U12-U14]10/11/2014 - 10/12/2014TOP Flight ONLY – GS Projection = 9,500 pts4 PDA STORM (NJ)21 ATLETICO FC GIRLS '01 (NYE) 41 CES CALVERT CREW WHITE (MD)42 STA MORRIS UNITED NPL 01 (NJ) 74 TSF ACADEMY 01/02G (NJ) 85 SABA BROOKLYN CITY (NYE)94 FSA FC U13 GIRLS PRE-ECNL 01 (CT) 220 NJCSA ELITE (NJ) MAPS 2014 FALL CHALLENGE11/15/2014-11/16/2014177 SDFC Samba287 FC Copa Academy Lima NPL 629 FC Bucks Esprit ECNL798 Hub Soccer of Denville Lightning890 Washington United Fever '021840 Hunterdon FC Dynamo1860 Westfield SA FC Premier Coloccini2107 SDFC Tigress3038 Downtown United SC Girls Lightning4075 Cranbury SC ChampionsN/A Delaware Union U13G Navy N/A Stateline FC DynamiteMAPS CUP 2014 FALL [U11-U14 GIRLS]11/22/2014-11/23/201466 PA Crew Academy Blue76 Harford FC United Thunder 131 Jersey Premier Soccer Flash 153 Mercer FC Spurs258 STA Morris United 01337 Harleysville HFC Ready '01393 NJ Crush FC Tsunami White621 DMS Soccer GU13 Academy2161 Edison United SA Lightning Bolts2334 Medford Strikers SC Soul
It's old NJ Force parents still throwing stones after their old teams nasty breakup. Some bad blood there over that situation.
As an outsider they seem to have a claim. I did not see any of the games and could not tell you if they were s close as the scoreline.NJ Galaxy 2-0 LVUNJ Wildcats 2-0 LVULook the same to me. SHould be an interesting game when they play.
11:45/11:49: again, you accuse others of being classless while you sit on a soccer blog about 12 year old kids mocking another team's coach. Talk about sad. I'd stoop to your level and accuse you of being a human stain, but even stubborn stains come out with a little soap and water. Give it a try - shower today. And while you're cleaning up your act, ponder burying the hatchet with Frank. It's not his fault your kid didn't cut it with his squad. Look on the bright side- things have obviously gotten better for you and your child - stardom on new team, a new facility (soon), another team's points, and solid EDP status that goes with them. You even get to train on the side fields where we practice......Enjoy it rather than being bitter about the past. It's healthier. Focus on your kid's future!
EDP cup has some good match ups but looks like 9500 for PDA Storm. Bracket "A" is awesome.
9:42 not to be a jerk, but I have to correct you on the 9,500 you forgot subtract their 20%. should be around 5,000 pts if they win.I do agree that one flight should be nice - PDA Storm has a chance to play some teams from regionals again. I read on this board that Athletico aka Sachem (is this true) kind of like Manalapan and their alias NJCSA Elite. Why do teams do that? I don't get it is it the coach or is it just a bunch of players as secondary players for one.
Wow- so let's walk thru this based on 9:09's post:Former Force parents are angry with Wildcats coach, because before they broke up Force with their mid season mutiny to join forces with NJCSA coach and founder they tried to break up Wildcats to join Force and failed. That makes them angry because they had no "out" on that one and left objective observer shrugging their shoulders wondering how silly and manipulative parents can be when their perception is that organization is preventing their child from becoming the next budding Olympic star. It's no wonder they're vindictive here, and like their coach to be angry, too. I'd opine simply that life's too short. Just enjoy it.
What's more they stoop to lying about the other teams coach as he never threw any chair or received any red cards or reprimands.While their current coach has been banished as a player and removed as a coach from leagues, coaching jobs and clubs for repeated red cards and threatening behavior to the point where referee assigners in his former club refused to assign referees to any more of his games if he coached.Now you play for this coach currently with no problem while you lower yourself to make up lies and throw them out anonymously to attack your former coach(one of MANY former coaches for you guys) and even use the coaches name on the blog.You have reached a number of all time lows with this recent behavior.
EDP might want to sell tickets to the game when these two teams play. With all of the bickering and bad blood in the back and forth, it's going to be an Intergalactic Battle for the Mastery of Manhassett.Don King couldn't have asked for a better lead up. Let's get ready to rumble!.
Who's it gonna be-the ferocious felines of the jungle or the tenacious interplanetary starship troopers?
I guess the NJSA Galaxy people really are on the warpath because of a game day and time having to be moved.
They're not just angry- they're iinsufferable. They have accused the coach, the organization or the actual children playing on Wildcats (depending on how you read their sometimes grammatically challenged posts) of being afraid to play them. Crackpots that need to get on with their lives. If something is missing in their lives that warrants this, I'd suggest they try out for Real Housewives of NJ. I hear they film some in the Jersey shore area this year. Producers might find their nastiness ratings-worthy and they can have a purpose beyond 12 year old's soccer game.I for one will wake up tomorrow and go to a satisfying job and get home to a beautiful wife and smart & talented kids and the end of the day whether or not my 12 year old wins today. Is it that important?
** at the end of the day
WildcatsTotally classless since you need to hide to behind a screen to lie.how about this facts:Wildcats coach - F license known for intimidating his own players, throwing chairs, smoking cigars on the field, being a former parent coach who took advantage of his daughter's talent to pursue a business opportunity. What an example. doc - questionable reputation, kick out of a few places. With the most embarrassing being when he was shown the door at Freehold SC some years ago for overcharging parents basically stealing from the club.What a role model. Research parents research!Another fact njsa has 3 players from last season Wildcats squad that by the way barely had enough players to field a team at the of the season and had to sing several force players to be able to do so.This means Wildcats benefited from force falling apart. What you have for me cats I want facts, club names and league names not just speculations
Here is a recent example of the njsa galaxy coaches behavior.I will leave it to you to decide if it is inappropriate.as stated above the Galaxy U13 team now trains at manahasset park where the entire wildcats clubs teams train.They are the only njsa team that trains there.they practice early and finish as the wildcats teams are arriving.It's a free country so no problem right?well as some of the wildcats players arrived early for practice last week,the galaxy coach approaches the wildcats parents and players and invites them to join his training session and to put on NJSA shirts over their wildcats practice gear.After the wildcats parents and players declined and went over to tell the wildcats coaches what happened a wildcat rep goes over and tells the galaxy coach not to approach their players and parents and that it was not acceptable to invite their players to train with his and to suggest they put on njsa gear The Galaxy coach responded to the wildcat rep that they were not "your players" and that he approached the wildcat parents with the invitation to join his session, not the wildcat players and that he is allowed to do that.so the wildcats rep tells the Long Branch Rec Dept people on site who manage the park and they go over and tell the Galaxy coach that if he ever does this again his teams permit of use for the site will be revoked and they will not be allowed to train there anymore.You decide.
A nj force parent reached out to wildcats when their team folded due to players leaving mid season for galaxy.The parent said there were a few force players who tried to stay and keep the team together for the balance of the season but they did not have enough to field a team. Only then did they move to wildcats. That group tried to stay loyal to their force team and finish the season but the group that had already jumped to galaxy left them without enough to field a team, and only left when force was no longer a viable team to finish the season. Our coaches daughter finished her youth soccer career 15 years ago and he has been a very successful trainer and coach with multiple teams and players going on to great success ever since.
My daughter does not play for wildcats but she has trained many times with the wildcats coach since she was very young and I saw many outstanding players from the top clubs in his sessions with her.From what I saw the kids love to train with him and he is far from what you describe.Clearly you have an axe to grind with him.
My view is that the post from NJSA is from 1 parent who seems to have a vindictive personality and just won't stop. I know some of the parents and players on that team and they are nice people with terrific girls. The wildcat parents and coach should stop responding to the lunacy of this one parent. It is not worth it and quite frankly I and the rest of the blog are sick of hearing about it. Move on.
My daughter does play for Wildcats. She does training sessions (non team) with coach. Boys and girls from many clubs attend these sessions. None of them are coming to watch coach do what you accuse him of doing.
You're all dopes and both NJSA and Wildcats are playing you. First off, most of you on either team have had your daughters already on 2-5 teams where most of your kids are not yet 13. Second, your daughters are not that good. Meaning that they are average local level players who would be just as well off playing in your own town. Third, you have no reason to beef that one coach approached another team's parent because 90% of the players on both teams have parents who either enjoy being approached, suggest an openness to being approached or enjoy the notion that both NJSA and Wildcats employ coaches who are better at recruiting than they are at coaching. Those teams don't exist...your team doesn't exist without exactly this type behavior.Both NJSA and Wildcats are laughing at you while they cash your check.
Wildcats coach seems like a bad example for young girls. Glad he's not my daughters coach..
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