There are some decent 04 keepers but the game from 02/03 to 04's is wider than the just one 1 year suggests...
CRUSH if you have the CASH. Most expensive club in the state.
This ain't tennis/golf. stay in your car if cheering Makes you squimish. Trump/Christie 2016
Watched the 03/04 keepers train at US Training today at Monmouth U. Five girls I assume cover both age groups. Two of them where very tall and stood out. All were very strong in net defending against the best shooters in the state. Would kill to have one of them for my daughters team. Was told 4/5 will be in Richmond this weekend. Looks like NJ is stacked with elite goalies. Good luck to all teams in Richmond this weekend!! Make NJ proud!!
Where do the 04 goalies at the Training center play?
Where do the top '04 goalies play? In the center defender role. Most of the ones there right now will get replaced by field players that take up the position much later. Not enough game sense or foot skills acquired when specializing this young. Stay on a team that lets you do both, no matter what they tell you. No, you will not get a scholarship. No, you are not Hope Solo and Tim Howard's lovechild. No you are not the second coming of Hope Solo or a shoe-in for the national team.They tell you those things because a too young specialized keeper boosts a team up a notch or two or three. It makes them win with a weaker team, and then they can recruit better field players. They won't love you back in a a few years. They will replace you. If you have it in you to be a superstar goalie in the long run, then you have it in you to be great field player now.That being said, Just for Keepers is best for training. Some clubs' training isn't worth it. PDA is probably best for the clubs.
PDA is for Trump. Perfect. He has been great for NJ - especially Atlantic City. And an inspiring figure for young girls. Maybe when they grow up they can aspire to parade around on stage in heels and a bikini to try to win a pageant and make a buck.
If 4 of the the 2004 goalies at training center are headed to Jefferson then they probably play for one of these teams: Voorhees, SDFC, TSF, Real NJ, Middletown, SJEB, NJ Crush, FC Copa, NJ Wildcats
If there are 5 2004 goalies there, does that mean that are 55 2004 field players or are there more?
No way there are 5 2004 goalies 1 or 2 tops and there just a few 2004 field players.
@10:31 - love it, spot on, fully agree. We clearly have an 04 goalie mommy/daddy phishing for acknowledgement.
Safe travels and good luck to all jersey teams at Jeff cup this weekend.
I think that US Soccer or NJYS should enter a rule banning tryouts until after Memorial Day weekend. There is no good reason for kids having to try out for teams in April that don't play together until August.
1:24 that's not true. My child's club starts in June playing together so Try outs after Memorial Day is a no.
Is it true that Voorhees is gonna merge with rush.. Just curious so I don't waste my time and go to those try outs seen enough daddy ball..
Aztec wins their bracket over Voorhees.PDA wins their bracket over Charlotte Soccer.Aztec vs Lyon in semi's.http://events.gotsport.com/events/results.aspx?EventID=46791&GroupID=457932&Gender=Girls&Age=12
Very talented teams at Jeff Cup. Watched some good soccer today.
Clubs don't really use tryouts to pick their teams so it's not that important when they do it. Tryouts do tend to be when official offers go out, and some clubs like to box out their competition by being early.
I would like to ask a question and hope to get an honest opinion from a parent who might understand this a little better than me...My daughter is not at the level like many players out there but she plays on a competitive team that plays in a good edp league and may not win a lot of games but the team does compete vs most of the teams. I asked our coach why we did not attend the disney tournament during the winter and recently the jefferson cup which many of the teams we face, both attended. The answer I received shocked me, but made TOTAL sense... Many of these coaches who coach these teams go to these high level "sleep away" tournaments bc it's a vacation for the coach. Coaches don't pay for the flights, the hotel, the rental car, the food, etc. When I heard this, it made total sense. Second- our coach mention, if you are not in the top flight (8 teams max) why would you bother. Our coach has us playing scrimmages- 2 a weekend, vs boy teams that are quicker, stronger, faster, smarter and the games are 15 minutes away from my house. Wow- makes sense. I am new to all this and when I continue to hear about teams attending all these HIGH level tournaments as such a young age, it made me mad that our team, who can compete, does not attend these type of tournaments. My question to you parents who go along with this would be, what kool aid does the coach serve your sideline? Why travel hours and hours away for something that is pointless. If you lose ONE game in these tournaments, the chances of your team making it to the final is slim. You just spent $400 on hotels, $300 on food, $250 on gas for what? 3- 60 minute soccer games? You can find the same competition 20 minutes from your town. Now I understand that tournaments matter bc of GOTSOCCER points but does it really? Just wait until your team is U15/U16 to attend showcases and whether your team has 0 points, if you're good enough, you're good enough and will get noticed. I hope parents get off the TOURNAMENT train and realize what you are doing. Ask your coach what is the reason of going to these tournaments at such a young age. Why you are traveling 5-8 hours away when your teams is placed in the 3rd-8th flight in the tournament. See what your coach says when you told him that you spent $2000 dollars in 3 days and there's nothing to show for it but a medal- there no coaches watching. There no scouts. 85% of the teams that attend these tournaments are in a 25 mile radius of each other.. there should be a rule. Don't travel outside your area unless you can beat everyone by 3 goals. Then you prove you're worthy and must travel to get some competition. I'm glad my coach was able to teach me like he teaches my daughter or else I would be driving home from Virginia in 18 hours for no reason..
9:40no one forces anyone to attend a tournament. If you're scrimmaging boys, why isn't your team good enough to qualify for the top flight?
9:40Your coach is an idiot and so are you. It's a "vacation" for a coach to leave his family for three days because he gets a free hotel stay??? Your message got bad at this point and went downhill from there. You make absolutely zero coherent points.
What is happening to Middletown at Jeff Cup? Getting embarrassed in the 4th flight. Another town team that had reached its peak. Otherwise NJ is well represented
The same post on the U14 board. Agree with 10:10. I do not agree with some teams that play 10 tournaments a year. But 4-5 is fine, builds team unity, kids love it, and I get along great with the other parents. We played one even in the fall and 2 or 3 this spring we'll have to travel to.
What're are the Aztec supporters now?Aztec 0 PDA 3
PDA Lyon 3 Dallas Tx. D'Feeters ECNL 0
All those soccer experts that questioned Lyon's schedule, playing up etc against older girls was wrong...SDFC, Voorhees blah blah blah. In two weeks they shredded U12 soccer.
PDA Lyon and BRYC (VA) take the Jeff cup top flight winners medals. Can't say I'm surprised to be honestCongrats
Lyon proved what most people knew, they are clearly the best team in NJ. Not close really.
There is no question Lyon is an exceptional team. I don't think anyone would disagree. But that should not mean we can't talk about other good teams too on this blog. Lyon might be better but that does not mean every other team in NJ is bad. They are just not as great as Lyon. Nothing wrong with that as long as daughters are thriving, enjoying themselves and forming great friendships with their teammates.
why we talking about Lyon at all? keep having your success by smashing teams at U12 this spring- 90% of your team is 03 birth year (and the better players are as well) you wont even make the 03 PDA team for next year. PDA GALAXY, NOVA, SHORE, CREW are all U13s that have 03 birth year. Only 2-3 players from lyon MIGHT have a chance
Good representation for NJ soccer. Glad the state could hold it's own against some good teams. Give credit when it's due. Results speak for themselves.
"why we talking about Lyon at all? keep having your success by smashing teams at U12 this spring- 90% of your team is 03 birth year (and the better players are as well) you wont even make the 03 PDA team for next year. PDA GALAXY, NOVA, SHORE, CREW are all U13s that have 03 birth year. Only 2-3 players from lyon MIGHT have a chance"Sound like a hopeful Crew parent. Good luck. You guys looked good out there this weekend.
9:09, what a hater. Pathetic. BTW, that team is not 90% 2003s and the 2003s on Lyon will do fine when compared to the 2003s on Galaxy. Guarantee a large percentage of the U14 ECNL team will be Lyon players, my guess is 50%. Numbers work as Galaxy is more heavily weighted with 2002s than Lyon is 2003s. The U13 south team may factor in that.
To 9:42. Lyon is 60% '03 and so what? All age groups still represent one year. Are you going to knock successful teams under the new calendar year grouping because they are 90% pre- July birthdays? The Lyon '03s will be fine.
PDA with 27 goals scored and only one allowed in the top two early-season tournaments around is kind of silly. Let's be honest, they have some real good players but that goalie just shut out the entire Jeff Cup top bracket!
Last updated: Mon 21 Mar 2016 5:40 AM MDT1 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY LYON  32.83 2 SDFC 09 GALAXY YELLOW  31.62 3 VOORHEES XTREME  30.95 4 NJ CRUSH FC FIRE NPL  30.62 5 REAL NEW JERSEY SC MADRID  30.43 6 MIDDLETOWN SC SONIC DYNAMITE RED  30.25 7 NJ WILDCATS LOPEZ NPL  30.22 8 PLAYERS DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY SHORE FREEDOM  29.90 9 FC BERNA LEGACY BLACK  29.51 10 TSF ACADEMY  29.42
any predictions for state cup?
PDA Lyon will win
Your PDA team was handed a gift from the CSA Torsion team on Saturday. The scoreboard did not reflect the completely outmatched speed of play and technical dominance our girls brought to you. With at least 80% possession we unfortunately did not find the back of the net though having 4 times as many shots as your team. Your goalie was outstanding. Your style of play was kick and run boot ball. Your brutal and dirty play was deplorable. You received 4 yellow cards, 2 of them to one player with no red card to follow, due to a teenage referee unable to control the game and a coach that chose not to control his players getting out of hand. That's OK, we move on, and everyone that watched that game, and TAPED IT, knows the class and technique that North Carolina brought to the game well outweighed whatever it was that PDA thought they brought. Everyone gets lucky every once in a while. Good luck at your next MMA match. Looking forward to seeing you in Texas in June, if you make it out of your State Cup. You should have no problem with that with all of the inferior match ups in NJ right?
They scored 9 goals on the weekend and allowed Zero as in (0). What are you talking about? Talent in New Jersey? More in NJ than the entire region you guys play in! Good luck as you just wait for CASL to take over your age division like it does every other NC age division.
3:01. Can you get someone to post a video of the match and share the link. Would be great to see if your evaluation is realistic.
I'd like to link to video also! Is it on Youtube yet?
See you in Texas...
3:01 Sean, glad you got that off your chest. Must have been a really really really long ride home to Charlotte stewing over the loss. Hope you feel better now. You have a decent team, possession was really good. You need some stronger forwards to be competitive. You are right about the officiating, however, calls went both ways. Feel free to lodge your complaint with Jeff Cup administrators. Have a great season buddy! Send me your email and I'll buy you a Jeff Cup shirt to dry your tears.Dad@nj_soccer_rules.net
NJ > NC in soccer. Sorry Bubba. You guys are lucky it was only 2-0. Sore losers are interesting. Now if PDA hadn't run through the rest of the field like Swiss cheese, maybe you'd have a point. But you don't considering.Lastly, to diss NJ soccer talent is silly. No one can argue NC produces more than Nj either in pure numbers or in overall elite talent. New Jersey is better and your post doesn't show much of the supposed southern hospitality you guys are know for.
CSA Charlotte Slow At soccer…Seriously - decent possession style soccer but no athletes out there. Bunch of good kids that may not play really elite level soccer as they get older because they are slow a foot and there is not much you can do to remedy that. Sorry.
CSA moaner - your post is worthless without a video link....Waaaaah.It's awesome that you're trolling a NJ soccer blog all the way from Charlotte. LOL.
Your director of Coaching at CSA has been alerted to your shenanigans...
There's a rat on the board!Nobody likes a tattle-tale.
I have to agree with CSA troll. I watched the PDA/Aztec game and Aztec was by far the more skilled team. Lyon plays kick and run. They were bigger and faster. Aztec had a goal called back off a direct kick. Ball sailed right over the goalies hand. Ref calls it a goal. Goalie throws a tantrum and complains after realizing she should have saved it. Ref reverses his call.
Let CSA boy be. Obviously got his tidy whiteys in a bunch. Need to see the video!!
Aztec far more skilled? Interesting. They lost 3-0. Didn't see the game but come on. That's a huge loss at this age. It's easy to talk smack after a game.
Well - here goes...Despite winning 3-0 final in one of the most competitive tournaments anywhere, PDA got dominated by the Dallas Defeaters ECNL team. No for real...Their players were faster at dribbling and passing and they used their big goalie to block shots. Then they booted the ball with power in the net 3 times! They did all that in just 60 minutes too! If they had 80 minutes they would have used these kick and run tactics to win 4 or 5 zero. Defeaters should have won if PDA didn't use all those things to win! I like the old haters who just talked about PDA playing up stuff and the not going to any good tournaments stuff. These guys crying about getting beat 3-0 in a 60 minute game are just insulting to the hard work those players from PDA put in to be the best.
Aztec is coming to the Pda kickoff. Look out jersey teams. They'll be looking for revenge. Just give them the trophy now.
You sore loser from Boston to NC kick and RunDoes not win games talent does get over it youWill be OK bubba!!
I find it funny how people DARED PDA to go to Jeff Cup. They won. They worked hard and it all paid off. U can hate as much as you want, but PDA won and there is nothing to change that. During the Aztec/PDA game, the ball went over the net. The game's over, stop acting like children. You're grown adults. Instead of whining about other people's children, FIX YOUR OWN.
At the end of the day, Lyon went home with a big shiny Jeff Cup trophy. All the teams they played great soccer, but come on, 3-0 wins at this level of soccer is pretty good. good luck with the rest of your season. The sore losers can spend the next 3 weeks hoping that Lyon loses out at their home tournament. I hear the CSA coach maybe starting a group therapy session.
Funny, when Lyon loses 1-0 to South Shore, they just get back to training, not jump on the Internet to moan about yellow cards, bad ref calls or optical goal illusions. Congrats on representing NJ soccer.
Agree. Not a Pda fan or parent but I'll give credit where credit is due.
With respect to NC soccer, just remember that Cary actually stands for "Containment Area for Relocated Yankees", so the whole southern hospitality thing is bogus. The attitudes are no different than in NJ.
Aztec- instead of complaining about your loss, focus on training and maybe you'll actually beat pda at their tournament.
not a parent of either team, but watched part of the Aztec - PDA game. The free kick goal from Aztec that clearly went in (a beautiful upper left hand corner shot) and was later called a non goal was one of the craziest and worst calls I have ever witnessed. Roughly 10 people around me saw a clear goal and watched the goalie talk the ref into thinking it somehow went over and somehow back inside the net. Shocking.
You forgot to mention that Lyon scored a goal in 15 seconds at the start of the game without a Aztec player ever touching the ball lol!!! Like in Rec level soccer!You guys are so jealous - it's gross. Do you realize if these were 80 minute games they would have been 4-0 or 5-0! Give it up!BTW - the ball went over the cross bar and was sitting on top of the net. Your talking magic trick - Voorhees Dad?
Not s PDA parent or hater.Perspective on the PDA Lyon performance. They scored 9 goals and allied 0.SDFC AND VOOrHEES - combined - scored 2 goals in 6 games, one each. Think about that.They also allowed 5 in.My question is who is the new #2 in New Jersey? I have to Say it's Bergen Bulldogs based on this season's performances...
9:52. you are so right. I was there and heard the Lyon goalie tell the ref "that is not the goal you are looking for".The force is strong in that one.
where are the Bergen Bulldogs playing this spring? I did not see them listed for edp. PDA Lyon is a big step above the rest of the team's right now and it would have been interesting to see if anyone could eventually have caught up to them, but everything is about to change for next year so we will never know. Let's enjoy the spring and watch our daughters play the game. It would be great if instead of bashing teams we could actually be positive more often!
With all due respect, soccer is a sport – a contact sport. Many teams (PF, SDFC, CT) – all complaining that bigger faster teams are beating their painstakingly mastered, intricate, tiki taka style. If your child is a small, slight, or not real speedy kid, maybe put her somewhere where she can succeed by master movements in things like dance, lacrosse or field hockey. It reminds me of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YyBtMxZgQs
Are they complaining, or are they just commenting about their kids being beaten by bigger faster kids? Big difference. We say that but we aren't complaining. Rather we are recognizing what is beating our girls and we know they need to adapt or they won't be able to compete. You are right, soccer is a contact sport. I am always impressed with the players who are skilled and fast and can also use their bodies to further enhance their games.
There are nine penal or major fouls. These fouls must be committed intentionally and may result in a Red Card”. The fouls are as follows: • Kicking a player. • Jumping up at a player. • Charging a player in a rough way. • Charging a player from behind. • Tripping a player. • Hitting or spitting at a player. • Pushing a player. • Holding a player. • Handling the ball. (Except by a goalkeeper). This foul is called if the player is trying to control the ball with his hands or arms.
@ 8:42 Just saying there’s a lot of nastiness that is unnecessary around this issue. Parents have spent years and thousands of dollars to develop these skills early in their kids, thinking they will be the next big thing. Now they think their “growth spurt” will put them back on top.These families can be really crazy – practically stalking kids, spreading rumors to coaches, their kids trying to injure others or not pass the ball – all to thwart the big athletic kids that are starting just now to specialize in soccer. Meanwhile, their kids get overuse injuries trying, in vain, to keep up.It’s like in basketball – you can’t coach height.
@9:09Are these for youth players? Parents even dumber coaches go off about how "that's a red card!!!", when kids rule give them a little more leeway. They are learning. They catch the ball in the box reflexively. Do things accidentally. It's a warning, penalty shot, yellow at most. There's also ref opinion, which may not be the same as an interested parent.
OK. So let me get this straight. PDA really got dominated in every game they played this weekend. LOL.
9:22 Red card if player does those things intentionally. Sure it's a ref's opinion on reflexive or intentionally. Open hand pushing if reflexive for any reason should be carded at all ages. I can see yellow card for warning then red. Since when has open hand pushing been an example reflexive response? Their shouldn't be leeway; 11 and 12 year olds know exactly what they are doing when they charge, hold, push etc. Thinking it's accidentally is an insult to the players intelligence.
In a youth game, I think the best refs are mindful of helping the kids learn the game. Most cards, but not all, i have seen presented are given after a player has been warned
even if the kick was a goal, u still would've lost 3-1! stop being sore losers and move on
I love how a 12 year old talked a ref out of a call.
I am having a hard time believing that a player talked a ref out of a call, let alone a goal. There were spectators at the game plus 2 linesmen and a center ref. The ball either went in the net or it didn't. It must not have gone in. I am not from PDA, but we have played many PDA teams over the years. I don't understand their bad reputation. Great teams, very well trained, and parents have been just like all the other soccer parents we've come across. They cheer for their girls as they should. Nothing more. Can we stop the PDA hate already?
don't understand how sdfc is #1 in nj and lyon is #2?
Sdfc has played more tournaments so they have more points. Rankings are just that. They don't say who is best, just who has the most points. I don't think anyone would argue that PDA is better than sdfc, and I doubt anyone on PDA is worrying about being ranked 2nd instead of first. And like another poster said previously, it is all changing next year anyway. Let's worry more about soccer and much less about rankings
I think maybe that is what hapened. Ball went in the goal, goalie had discussion with ref and it was called a non-goal. Not a PDA, Aztec or even a parent from NJ - was just casually watching the game for a short time. Never seen anything like it and I have seen some bad calls in my time
At this point who cares. The final was 3-0. Hopefully the two will play again in a few weeks. Let's just see what happens.
"I think maybe that is what hapened. Ball went in the goal, goalie had discussion with ref and it was called a non-goal. Not a PDA, Aztec or even a parent from NJ - was just casually watching the game for a short time. Never seen anything like it and I have seen some bad calls in my time"Last time for the dense…The ball went over the post and hit the top of the net that runs parallel to the crossbar. However much it appeared to go in to Dad that just stopped by- the ball stayed on the roof of the net and never came down. Referee inspected and saw ball on the outside of net - no goal.
Ball was on the ceiling above the goal - never came down - adult referee inspected and said no goal. Goalie had nothing to do with it - no complaint from Aztec Coach - you guys here are despicable.
Based on these comments alone, it sounds like PDA Lyon goalie is awesome and her defense must be outstanding. Period. And NO, I'm not a PDA parent. And no, I rarely read most of the nonsense written here. SNL should take some of this comment thread and make a 10 part series. I will check in again in a couple of months to see how I've been verbally attacked for posting this. Maybe someone will even attack my daughter who they have never met. #pathetic #cya
I'm sure the goalie is great, I mean no goals all weekend? Vs teams that are that competitive? I''d be happy with 1 shutout on a weekend like that.Speaking of goalies and PDA, one supposed roster oddity is that apparently(2nd hand info) there are no 2004 goalies at all - at PDA North. 2004 Goalie spots will be up for grabs at several NJ academies and top teams as everyone tries to moves up a spot or two to Pre-ECNL Lyon or NPL Zizzou if this is true. Who does goalie training at PDA? Separate days? Before or after practice etc? Does a goalie have to go three days a week?
Why is the moderator permitting discussion of specific children. Should not be allowed whether it is the parent bragging or not. It is an invitation for the abuse that comes every single time.
No 2004 goalies at PDA on Lyon or Zizzou but what about U11 teams A or the B?
we're looking for a good place for our daughter (04)- penn fusion or continental? Coming from a closer knit team- culture is important to us, but we obviously want her to develop the best she can. If we're faced with choosing I have no clue which way to go .
12:22 - Continental if you want to homestead. You are more likely to be replaced at PF as the years go on.
@12:22Other than teamwork, coaching, nurturing their love for the game, passion, and a sense of family, PF would be the best choice.
PF is very cut throat . Every player for themselves type of atmosphere . Everyone is replaceable .
I would certainly expect that if I paid the big big bucks for a program like that. Among other things, you are paying be on a team where the best players are chosen for the program and others are cut.
If you're daughter likes that kind of cut throat ,backstabbing ,environment then that's the place to go .
I just said that what these high level parents are paying for among other things. Whether mine wants or does not want that environment is irrelevant. (unless she does a LOT more baby sitting and dog walking to help finance it LOL)
What non ECNL club should an 03 quality player be looking into in Southeast PA? FCUSA is trying to put together a showcase team, does anyone have an opinion of them?
Assuming your player is qualified to play where she wants, that is difficult advice to get from an anonymous chat board. Where are you located, how far do you want to travel, what is your soccer budget for training and fees, what coaching style suits your player, is an uber competitive sports atmosphere enjoyable or destructive for her, what is your time and money budget for tournaments? , For most players, answering those questions will eliminate a lot of clubs and visit and pick the best fit from those left on the list.
09:40 - Thanks for the reference to FCUSA. It made me look up FCUSA. I'm not sure if your post was a planted plug for FCUSA, or a legit question. Regardless, I learned something. Looks like LMSC might have a competitor.
Any relationship between FCUSA and Haverford Elite? Both are managed by UKElite.
Steve Wilman was a recent DOC at FCUSA, before moving on to DOC at FC Providence in 2015-16, I believe. I've known him from UK Elite training session at Nether/1776. Good guy, good coach, good trainer. FCUSA should be a decent place to play.As I'm from that area, I also know Barnesy who coaches the Haverford Elite team. While I don't think the 02-03 team is affiliated with UK Elite, Barnesy and Ben Davey are UK Elite coaches and have a wealth of experience to draw from.From what I hear, Lower Merion Fenix (03/04) are imploding. The Thunderbolts (02/03) are ok. Not sure what they're going to have for an 04, 03, or 02 team and who is coaching.Probably not much difference between Haverford Elite and FCUSA, so whichever is closer would be your best bet. Or go to tryouts for both and try to get a gauge on what both clubs offer. If you can find more minutes on one club versus another, that would be my preferred choice. Don't chase wins over minutes. They have to play to develop.
Word on the street is Fenix are moving the team to FCUSA. If that is the case that will likely be a strong 03 Girls team.
Didn't the 1 Fenix player already leave and go to PDA ?
Multiple Fenix girls are already gone. One to PF tooFC Philly has tried to start a team w the fenix girls
In NJ FCUSA is a 3rd tier club at best.
The good one s have already left that team. Any team going forward will be made up of the leftovers. Their craziness caused all the good ones to leave sooner than they might have.No doubt the posts were those very same individuals trying to hype their scheme pretending to inquire. Past u12 teams stratify. Can't believe they they think they will rope in a bunch of top players to replace them and ride on their coat tails.
Voorhees Xtreme splitting up. Team is moving to Rush. Some girls not happy and leaving. What a shame. They were a great team and now they are unraveling.
which is it? The team is splitting up or the team is moving to rush? Or some players going to rush and others elsewhere?
Some moving to Rush, others not happy about it are going elsewhere. They think changing to Academy will make them more prominent. Not a chance! They have a ring leader parent that is destroying their team. He thinks his daughter is the next Carli Lloyd. Give me a break! Not surprised by the implosion. They are not at all what they used to be!
@ 12:05 why so hostile on Easter Sunday?
I can see 03's wanting to go to rush.. 3 u13 teams. Most likey half of those teams are 03's. 03's will remain competitive with such large player pool. Bad news for Voorhees's 04's - Rush's u11 and u12 teams not very strong. Oh well! Kids are resilient! When one door closes another door opens.
@12:05 - you are so right. Agree with you 100%
This is why it is good to play at Pda. No parent drama. The club doesn't deal with idiot parents. You want to start problems you're gone. The team never splits up and looks to combine with another team. As long as you daughter can play at a high level there is no bs and no reason to leave. It's funny how all these town teams who claim to be the best around all split up at some point. It's just a matter of time.
Always one rotten banana in the bunch! Shame on that parent! I hope the other parents wake up and don't listen to that clown!
@12:05 I think I know the parent you are talking about. I think if his daughter goes to the Rush, it will be the fourth team that she will be on and she is only twelve. I think they change teams more times than they change their underwear! This is what you call a CLUB HOPPER!
OMG! What a surprise - NOT! I knew that team was going down the drain!
What is the Voorhees trainer doing..is he going to rush with the group of girls that is going over..
@9:27 eventually they will run out of teams to play on..what a disgrace..
I feel sorry for the rush.
The Voorhees trainer is very good .
Let's ask the voorhees trainer how he feels about the rotten egg parent on the sidelines?????
Voorhees trainer isn't that good.. Any real trainer would take control of the team..he let the parents run the team so he could keep getting a pay check no respect for that guy at all.
No trainer should let the parents run the team..the rush trainer should run for cover..it will never change
I got an idea. Maybe the parent should coach and train the team.
@9:27 I know who you are talking about also. Shame they find a problem everywhere they go. The Xtreme was top notch team until they got there. Their ship has sunk and they are getting desperate. Don't forget to paddle.
REALITY CHECK for that parent. Dude your daughter gets shown up by the 2005 players on her team.
I smell a rat! I'm sure it was that parent's idea to talk some of the other parents into moving over to the rush. I hope the rush has mouse traps.
How many voorhees parents are you talking about? Doubt one person can do so much. Sounds like someone stirring up trouble.
They are the laughing stock of south jersey!
You are Trouble with a capital T!
If you are all talking about who I think you are talking about - you are right! Even the mother was like our team mom and was always kissing up to the coaches and at the same time her daughter was trying out elsewhere. No couth!
when are they breaking up?
All town teams have been negatively impacted by the age appropriate rules that have been rolled out by US Soccer. Whether it is a Voorhees, Cherry Hill or any other town team these teams can't compete by playing up and keeping the team together. The end result is better players leaving and going to a academy level team like PDA, Penn Fusion maybe even Rush or the Baron's.
so much information. Voorhees team will be fine. 80% of team is 2004. Rush has already arranged for a new coach to take the 2004 team next year.
80% is not gonna be good enough. A new coach, that's a laugh. It's someone that is already coaching for DADDY and MOMMY Dearest's son and has been training the daughter. You think that he would be an honest trainer and tell them their daughter is just average. You're not fooling anyone. BOOM!
I don't understand the negative comments about the Voorhees team. If the parents are trying to put their daughters in a better environment to develop technically and compete why are folks against that. Some of the comments sound like folks have an axe to grind.
I don't think people are faulting the team, the girls are only 12. A better environment? Half of the negative comments about the Voorhees team on this blog are coming from their own parents. Start reading from the beginning! Don't think that changing environments is gonna help this group of parents. What is will always be!
College coaches know that when selecting a player you are also selecting the parents / family. Parents can lose opportunities for their children. High level youth sports are similar and a good program / coach will select accordingly.
Hahaha 80% that doesn't mean all the 04 r following u moses to the promise land of rush haha
These parents and many others are just dollar signs prancing around the heads of these clubs.Sounds like vorhees parents on here should be chatting with each other directly instead of through some anonymous blog that is probably run by one of their own parents.real madrid going to sjeb. teams going to rush. players going to pda. pf and continental infighting. pda north laughing at everyone.the smartest people are the people with kids just having fun playing soccer somewhere with no knowledge of blogs and ecnl.
@1:48 college coaches, ha-ha. We are talking about 12 year old girls. Also, college coaches don't deal with families at all - they deal strictly with the player. If you're a college coach and you are on a U12 soccer blog, you can't be a good one.
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If it is Voorhees parents (current or previous)making negative comments about another parent or child on the team that's a sad state of affairs. Voorhees has a paid coach. Why isn't he making the decisions? I think the changes in the landscape make it very difficult for a town team to succeed, which is sad. If a child wants to play at a high level, the only options seem to be the Penn Fusion, SJEB, PDA and Rush. I've been on this blog twice hoping to see a healthy conversation about changes in the soccer arena. Other age brackets have useful information. Why does this age just knock teams and players?
many of the elite youth coaches are college coaches, asshat.you must really think you are cool making your dumb assumptions.get a clue.
No Thanks Copa. My daughter would rather stay with her current club.
This board is polluted with trolls.
Copa no thanks too expensive for no reason!!!
How much is copa
Sjeb rush merger is in effect..just announced today..will only be for older teams u-15 and up is when the clubs merge into one
Good move for south jersey players!
I have been reading through these posts, and some people are saying that the academy teams will be okay and that the club teams are screwed. I think I may have to disagree. My daughter plays on an academy team and I have been hearing rumors of a couple of academy players on different academy teams jumping ship. Some academy teams did very poorly this past season. My daughter is an 04 and has asked me about taking her to try out at TBAA Sonics. They are located not too far from PDA in Westampton and closer than SJEB barons. I have had the opportunity to see that team play a few times, and they are quite impressive. The team is very talented. I think they may be the dark horse! I have been asking about their team, and was told that they are mainly 04's and have a few 05's, but their 05's are beasts and are extremely skilled. I hear they are looking for a keeper and to add a few players. I researched their trainer/coach and he is the women's soccer coach at Rider University. I'm not plugging for their team (although my daughter will be attending their tryouts), just saying that the academy teams will also feel the effects!
@3:08, are you implying another town team is going to Rush just like the rumors flying about Voorhees Xtreme?
Sonic is mediocre They are moving to Rush which is an academy you dingbat.
I see. Some of Voorhees 04's are going to Rush to play with the Sonics under the Rider coach. Sonics get the club hopping player/parents. Exteme gets the Extremly skilled 05 beasts. Except someone from sonics wasn't clued in on the plan and advertises for their team here. It's a great day in south jersey soccer!
@3:08 trying to talk like you in da hood isn't fooling anybody that you're those "parents" from Voorhees. They should have never let you on the team. Like we all don't know that the last 5 posts are from you! You got played! Now you are trying to pick on a different team thinking that people are going to start ripping on them instead of you being the joke of all south jersey soccer. I sure hope that the Sonic players do move over to the rush because they can run rings around your daughter. Oh that's right, your daughter will still make the team because the trainer/coach is a personal friend. Or so you think? Don't think that the Voorhees parents are that naive and don't know that your daughter trained with the Sonic during the winter. So much information? Someone in your circle of trust is such a talker. Nice though. Baa-ha-ha.
I know. Maybe your daughter could take up piano or art. Maybe she is more skilled with her hands, since she most certainly isn't skilled with her feet!
interesting. did you think your plan all the way through moses? how are the Voorhees parents going to feel when they practice and scrimmage with the sonic. those girls can probably school your girls. after all, the rider coach that you have been bragging about has been training and coaching them for about 2 years now.
@3:08 Now I see why people have written all these posts about you! You stole a post that I wrote on another blog and put it on here like another parent did it. Duh - people on these blogs go on more than one page. You are an idiot. Obviously, someone should tell the sonic to stay away from you.
All town teams that have competitive teams will have to eventually move. They are not attracting many players anymore and now the byc is going to kill them. Good for the rush.
NO WAY posts made about TBAA were from their coach or parents. Their team name is not the sonics. If you are gonna try to make up stories and comments about them, please do your research first and get there name right!
2:51 I see you're posting your same spiel on the u11 blog as well .
How many teams does PDA have at u12 ?
PDA's website would have that info
PDA has 4 teams at U12 according to their site and supposedly no 2004 goalies at according to this blog...
It is really sad and disturbing that if someone comes to this blog to look for real information about South Jersey soccer all they find is negative and disparaging comments about 11 & 12 years kids. It also appears that some of the comments have racial overtones. What does that say about the South Jersey soccer community?
There are crappy people everywhere! What does it say about you who makes a blanket statement characterizing the whole South Jersey Soccer community based off of what you read on this blog?
@7:56 Maybe not the u12 version but YES WAY! the u11 version of the post is from the teams coach.
@ 7:54 Dude, just like on the u11 blog NO ONE CARES! Stop posting your stupid crap. Didn't your mama tell you, if you don't have anything nice to say than don't say anything at all.
@7:54 get a life and stop living through your daughter!
Why are specific players and their families from the Voorhees team mentioned on this blog? It's one thing for an adult to read this, but it's another if a child reads this. How do you think they would feel? Or maybe you don't care. Is it your place to say a player is mediocre or to call out their parents? I find it funny to see religious references (example - Moses), but the text associated with it, is not very Christian like or even decent human being like. If a player is mediocre, that should be addressed by the coach. And if it's not being addressed by the coach, why is the child blasted? Why is the family blasted? The coach is paid,correct? If people have an ax to grind, you should go to the person not post on a blog. It's just stirring the pot. Why stir the pot? Worry about your child and your family. At 3/28 @2:45pm, if it is a Voorhees parent making these comments it's a shame that this family doesn't even know that someone is smiling in their face and at the same time stabbing them in the back.
I find it funny that I planted a seed and watched how fast the thorns grew. I know it is going to be like walking on eggshells at practice now, not knowing which parent is talking behind your back. I wonder if the Rider coach knows that you ruined his plan, or even better, your friend that is the coach of the other team that you just threw under the bus. I'm sure he won't be happy when he finds out all of the "Daddy Coach" posts that you made about him. I am guessing that he and the team's parents will not be too happy with things that you said, especially when they were kind enough to let your daughter train with them. There goes your plan b. You won't even be able to lower yourself down a peg to join their team when you wake up and find out some of the 04s are not going with you. After all, they are just mediocre - isn't that what you said about the sonics?😬
Their team name is not the sonics. It is Sonic. If you are gonna try to make up stories and comments about them, please do your research first and get there name right!
Why are the Voorhees parents going back and forth on this blog did things end that bad over there ur spring season hasn't even started yet let the girls enjoy the last spring season together before everyone goes there way the girls have been together for years. Ok parents have a bad taste in there mouth let it go and grow up move on. Can't change the past so move forward.
Does anyone know the future plans of the Voorhees trainer ?
@5:35. Are you unfamiliar with the Internet? Look him up and ask. Probably a more useful way to obtain accurate info than an anonymous blog posting. Might want to share that tidbit with your daughter. Might help her with her studies.
thanks but my daughter doesn't need help with her studies . She's in advanced classes with an IQ over 145 . Maybe you should focus on your own daughter. With an ass like you for a Dad she's gonna need all the help she can get . Good luck to her !
3:28Before you criticize someone else's spelling, please learn the difference "there" and "their". The person you called out probably just hit a wrong key by accident, you on the other hand, have an obvious intelligence issue.
Do you have to tell your coach if you are going to a try out at another club? Our club has said we must tell them if we are going to other try outs. They said it is a small community and they will find out from the coaches at other clubs when they "hang out" together. Can you share thoughts, opinions, experiences on this topic?
I can see a coach asking for a courtesy heads up if players may possibly be leaving, The club doesn't own your daughter. There are too many variables to consider to predict the 'consequences' of them finding out you went to another tryout. That may be a good question to ask them. What would happen if I my daughter attends another team tryouts. if the coach is angry or vindictive about your daughter trying out elsewhere, is that really the type of coach or club you want? The more upfront and transparent you are with the coach the less likely you are to burn a bridge. if it was my daughter, I would discuss my concerns and reason for considering the move with the coach.
Agree with 10:08. At this young age, playing time and development are all you should be focusing on. If a coach is trying to intimidate you, then that tells you everything you need to know. While you don't want to be a nomad traveling from club to club, you have to be willing to do what is best for your daughter.Remember, you are the consumer. You are paying them. Be honest. Ask questions.
I do not believe that you need to tell the coach. Depends on your relationship and if you are really leaving. They will almost certainly find out. BTW, tryouts are not the best route, and many teams are pretty much set by tryouts with just a few slots at most left. Very hard to sort through the chaos in tryouts. Go to a training, much better route to a team.
You don't need to tell the coach but it is obviously disruptive to the entire team to lose players. 99 percent of the time good, mature communication will be helpful to everyone involved.
11:11 what sort of competitive team is already set prior to tryouts?
I would assume coaches have a good idea of which players are staying and possibly new additions. There is a good chance at least 70% of the roster is probably already decided. Maybe some don't give it much thought prior to tryouts if their club has multiple teams in age group. Don't you think it would be poor planning to not know before tryouts. I pity the players whose team folds after tryouts. Poor planning or maybe coach was blindsided. Who ever is to blame, there is always a few players who get left out of the loop searching for a team after tryouts. The past couple days of post is a good example. Two SJ town teams hoping to have their roster set before tryouts. (If you believe any of the past couple days of posts Yikes!)
Only a fool believes what is posted on an anonymous blog. Last couple of days is perfect example. Lots of hostility, very little substance. Fully agree that this years tryouts will see kids getting multiple looks. All the more reason why rosters can't be set.
At the top clubs, say you have a team of 16 kids and you want 16-18 for next year. You have say 8 coming back as 2004s, and you like 6 of them. Those 6 already have offers. You have another 6 from the U11 team that you have to keep because the club is not burning the younger players who will leave if they aren't on the A team. So now you have 12 filled spots and can bring in 4-6 more. We'll you have had 10 kids at practice in the 3 weeks before tryouts and you have offered 4 and they have strongly indicated they are in. so now you have 16 kids in, and two spots left if you should find someone that shows up at tryouts that blows you away. chances are you hold those spots for some kids at PDA are other clubs that are real players and may want to move. That's how this plays out this year in most places where the teams are good and content.
@6:06. There is a little bit of truth in all those posts. @6:26. yup! Just like that.
6:26 is spot on!
Until it becomes clear where the DA is likely to be.
You are not getting into the DA. STOP already.
The GDA won't be decided till after tryouts and offers have been made. Parents can try to move their daughter to a GDA after announcement if team has roster spots available. Why so much jockeying for something that is suppose to be fun.
Maybe their club will. Surely somebodies kid one these blogs will have a daughter make a gda team.
That GDA is going to load up They will rake it in even faster than the ECNL.
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